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Old 07-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #1
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Dirt bike conversions in Washington?
So has anyone went through the process for making a dirt bike road legal yet? Has anyone investigated what it costs for the dealer to do the whole thing to a new bike? Just wondering how that is working out....

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
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For me to do it to my 04 WR450 it cost in the neighborhood of about $600 including inspection,titling,DOT tires,lighting kit and some miscellaneous parts and pieces.

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:16 PM   #3
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I Ride: 2004 KTM 525 EXC, 2003 CRF 150F, 1995 Suzuki DR 350, WWII Paratrooper Minibike, PROJECT: Old Di Blasi Folding Minibike
I tried to get the plate back on my KTM 525 but I learned from I-90 Motorsports that most of the dealerships (them included) are not inspecting bikes because the law doesn't protect them in the event that a person takes some street required parts off their bike (blinkers, mirrors, etc...) and then they get a ticket, and turn around and say "well that dealership said it was street legal, so it's their fault".

Though I have heard that some dealerships are inspecting.

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:33 PM   #4
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I tried to get the plate back on my KTM 525 but I learned from I-90 Motorsports that most of the dealerships (them included) are not inspecting bikes because the law doesn't protect them in the event that a person takes some street required parts off their bike (blinkers, mirrors, etc...) and then they get a ticket, and turn around and say "well that dealership said it was street legal, so it's their fault".

Though I have heard that some dealerships are inspecting.
Full Throttle, in Kennewick, Wa. does inspections for 75.00
All the dealership needs to cover themselfs is a check list with the state requirements.
After completeing the check list requirements and inspection the bike can be signed off.
The bike owner signs and gets a copy and the inspection dealer keeps a copy. After that what an owner does is up to the owner.
"The dealer has a dated, signed written form stating on this date at this time this bike passed".
Do a search on this forum. There has been discussion about your questions. The State of Washington has the requirements on their web-site.
A friend had his Suzuki DRZ-400 inspected. He sourced the required parts himself and installed them himself.

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:35 PM   #5
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Full Throttle, in Kennewick, Wa. does inspections for 75.00
All the dealership needs to cover themselfs is a check list with the state requirements.
After completeing the check list requirements and inspection the bike can be signed off.
The bike owner signs and gets a copy and the inspection dealer keeps a copy. After that what an owner does is up to the owner.
"The dealer has a dated, signed written form stating on this date at this time this bike passed".
Do a search on this forum. There has been discussion about your questions. The State of Washington has the requirements on their web-site.
A friend had his Suzuki DRZ-400 inspected. He sourced the required parts himself and installed them himself.

Thats what I thought. But I guess some dealerships just dont want to take the risk.

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:41 PM   #6
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Thats what I thought. But I guess some dealerships just dont want to take the risk.
There really isnt a 'risk'. The state is very clear on the equipment they want on the bike.
"The DEALERSHIP dont want to get involved". Its just like buying a new or used street bike. Mod. the signals and you can get a ticket. Is the dealer held liable? No. The owner is responsiable for the maintance of the bikes safety equipment. NOT the dealer. Unless the dealer installs the non-DOT signals and all the other stuff people get tickets for.

Full Throttle in Kennewick, WA. Does inspections. Bring your completed bike over!

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Old 07-09-2012, 07:12 PM   #7
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Full Throttle in Kennewick, WA. Does inspections. Bring your completed bike over!
If only I was closer.

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #8
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This has been discussed on thumpertalk quite a bit too. I found a good deal on a baja kit and should be able to get my ktm plated for under $500. I plan on reselling the kit after as I only want the play for forest service roads to connect trails.

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:21 PM   #9
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If only I was closer.
I'll find out where on your side inspections are done.

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Old 07-10-2012, 06:14 AM   #10
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I believe Tasky's does inspections.

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Old 07-10-2012, 09:01 AM   #11
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Inspections near you...
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I'll find out where on your side inspections are done.
Coyote off road...they have a web site and, they will help with installs.
LINK>>http://coyoteoffroad.com/

They are in Snohomish

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:30 AM   #12
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Some dealerships are uncomfortable with the liability signing off that the bike complies with all applicable federal standards.

FMVSS should only apply to new bikes and bikes for sale or import, but if the state were to assert that FMVSS was applicable to privately owned used vehicles there is no dealership that can demonstrate compliance with that standard.

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:31 AM   #13
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I spend over $1k on my CRF250X conversion, but it is letter of the law perfect.

Has to be since I helped write the law and cannot be poster boy for shortcutting the requirements.

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:34 AM   #14
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This has been discussed on thumpertalk quite a bit too. I found a good deal on a baja kit and should be able to get my ktm plated for under $500. I plan on reselling the kit after as I only want the play for forest service roads to connect trails.
Keep in mind that if you get caught, the state is tracking abuse of this new law and the legislature will be quick to yank it if they percieve a noncompliance problem.

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Old 07-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #15
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Some dealerships are uncomfortable with the liability signing off that the bike complies with all applicable federal standards.

FMVSS should only apply to new bikes and bikes for sale or import, but if the state were to assert that FMVSS was applicable to privately owned used vehicles there is no dealership that can demonstrate compliance with that standard.
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I spend over $1k on my CRF250X conversion, but it is letter of the law perfect.

Has to be since I helped write the law and cannot be poster boy for shortcutting the requirements.
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Keep in mind that if you get caught, the state is tracking abuse of this new law and the legislature will be quick to yank it if they percieve a noncompliance problem.

The onus is on the motorcycle owner to attest to the proper equipment is installed when the motorcycle is registered as a converted bike. RCW 46.61.705 (1)(a) requires that the owner files the declaration with DOL. All the dealer does is affirm a safety inspection was done to ensure compliance at the time of inspection.

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Old 07-12-2012, 09:45 AM   #16
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The onus is on the motorcycle owner to attest to the proper equipment is installed when the motorcycle is registered as a converted bike. RCW 46.61.705 (1)(a) requires that the owner files the declaration with DOL. All the dealer does is affirm a safety inspection was done to ensure compliance at the time of inspection.

On the DoL form, the dealership or other inspecting entity must sign off on the following:

Does the equipment comply with state and federal requirements?

If they perceive that the applicable federal requirements include 49CRF571, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) then proving compliance to that is well beyond the capability of an motorcycle dealership that I am familiar with.

Link to 49CFR571:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...71_main_02.tpl

That said, it is my opinion that FMVSS should not be applicable in most cases such as privately owned used motorcycles.

My findings are based on 49USC30112 and it states in part that 49CFR571 is limited in applicability to vehicles manufactured for sale, sell, offer for sale, introduced or delivered for introduction in interstate commerce, or imported into the United States.

Link to 49USC30112:

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/stan...301.html#30101

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Old 08-16-2012, 09:03 PM   #17
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If you want to do the convention cheaper. Then look into the Tusk enduro light kit. I know a couple of guys who used it and it was vastly cheaper then the Baja kit.

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Old 08-17-2012, 06:57 AM   #18
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Plated yz250f for sale on craigslist...http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/mcy/3180362855.html

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Old 08-17-2012, 07:24 AM   #19
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I Ride: Aprilia Factory, 525SMR, DRZ400sm, and a gaggle of others
ive got my 05 525smr plated,

it wasnt a pain in the ass

bought some dot blinkers, oem ktm headlight, a dot tail light, made a wiring harnessand trail tech vapor...had dealer inspect, they signed off....


and now i has plate...

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Old 08-17-2012, 07:51 AM   #20
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So let me ask this, about that... Are you required to pay for dual registration after this inspection process? I got my KDX converted and signed off and my local office is telling me I get the privilege of paying for both a plate and orv sticker every year. They are also telling me it doesn't do a thing for the "brand" on the title that says it's not eligible for on road use. I would think they would atleast change the "brand" to say that it's been converted. No?

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