Fatal?

MOTT · 05-30-2010, 10:11 PM

heard you had one on the east end of town tonight?

EDIT: link to story, Hang the motherfucker driving drunk, and with his kid in the car!

http://www.kgw.com/news/Portland-man...-95253999.html

Brian_M · 05-30-2010, 10:21 PM

I heard the same thing, over by Tongue Point. My sister's boyfriend called saying traffic was backed up and was expected to be backed up for a few hours. I'm assuming it was backed up so long so they could do an investigation unfortunately.

jonnyb347 · 05-30-2010, 10:39 PM

Another one? damn this sucks, summer hasn't even started.

Storm of Swords · 05-30-2010, 10:53 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if their are more crashes/fatalities in Spring than there are in Summer. Quite a few reasons... Lots of new bikers in Spring (me being one of them!), people showing off and/or going crazy on the first few rides of the year, and general excitement can make for crazy rides.

Bill Clinton · 05-31-2010, 07:43 AM

ASTORIA, Ore. -- A southeast Portland man driving with his 13-year-old daughter was arrested Sunday evening after crashing head-on into a motorcycle on Highway 30 east of Astoria, troopers said.

Oregon State Police Lt. Duane Stanton said 44-year-old Kenneth Middleton was driving a pickup truck at about 6 p.m. Sunday near Tongue Point. He swerved into the westbound land on a blind curve and collided head-on into a motorcycle, troopers said.

The motorcycle driver was thrown into a nearby field, Stanton said, and the truck dragged the motorcycle before stopping along the side of the highway.

Troopers said they identified the motorcycle driver as 35-year-old Andrew Church, of Rainier. Church was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash.

Middleton was taken to the Clatsop County Jail on charges of manslaughter, DUII, reckless driving, reckless endangering another person.

Neither Middleton nor his daughter were injured, trooper said, and both were wearing seat belts.

The investigation is ongoing, Stanton said.

MOTT · 05-31-2010, 08:00 AM

http://www.kgw.com/news/Portland-man...-95253999.html

link

95gst16g · 05-31-2010, 10:46 AM

Wow what a piece of shit....That sucks.Atleast he is getting charged with a bunch of shit.

a109driver · 05-31-2010, 10:47 AM

I heard about it through some friends who were on Hwy 30 trying to get home from Rainier to Seaside. They were stuck on Hwy 30 in the backup. Does anyone here know the rider or the drunk driver that hit him? Did anyone hear what type of motorcyle he was on?

I ride or drive that road everyday going to and from work. Those curves are the only fun part to ride. That really sucks for the rider. I wonder if he could have done anything to avoid it. From the report, it sounds like he was completely innocent in the accident. I worry more about animals jumping in front of me than cars coming into my lane. I doubt the rider would've been any better off if he was in a small car. If he had been in a bigger vehicle than the truck that hit him, it would have resulted in the drunk and his daughter being injured or killed also. Sad story for sure.

chevybutcher · 05-31-2010, 01:37 PM

It's always sad to hear of a tragedy like this . RIP to the rider and hopefully the drunk idiot will learn something from this WHILE spending some time behind bars . He could have injured or killed his own kid . Think of how his daughter is feeling right now ! I think penalties should be alot stiffer for DUI crimes .

Gusgus · 05-31-2010, 01:48 PM

If this one has a past record of DUII I will be off the top pissed!

AND, if he gets off with "time served", or charges dropped or anything less than guilty of involuntary manslaughter I will be quite vocal as well.
His daughter being in the car only shows his lack of awareness, it doesn't necessarily show his ability to be a good father or good provider.
The act of driving drunk and killing is the only issue here!

rallynz · 05-31-2010, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Gusgus

His daughter being in the car only shows his lack of awareness, it doesn't necessarily show his ability to be a good father or good provider.

Disagreed...

Having another person in the car with you while operating a motor vehicle under the influence of intoxicants is reckless endangerment in the State of Oregon...

Good fathers don't recklessly endanger their children.

jlburgess · 05-31-2010, 10:28 PM

I can't count the number of times pick up drivers have short cutted a corner directly into my lane. Remember to swing it wide and take a look, then dive in to hug the inside-it may save your life. It sucks that people are too drunk and lazy to stay on the right side of the road. I've been on the scene of 2 motorcycle fatalities now in the last 6 weeks and both had full safety gear and leathers

Osufireman · 05-31-2010, 11:13 PM

RIP Rider. Damn that just sucks all around. I'm glad they at least were able to arrest and charge the offender and he didn't run. Still doesn't make up for the fact that he ruined multiple people's lives.

95gst16g · 06-01-2010, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Osufireman

RIP Rider. Damn that just sucks all around. I'm glad they at least were able to arrest and charge the offender and he didn't run. Still doesn't make up for the fact that he ruined multiple people's lives.

Did you see his truck?!I dont think he could have ran if he wanted to.That truck was messed up!Too much of this lately....

Gusgus · 06-01-2010, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by 95gst16g

Did you see his truck?!I dont think he could have ran if he wanted to.That truck was messed up!Too much of this lately....

He still had his feet and his legs. He could have run.

Gusgus · 06-01-2010, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by rallynz

Disagreed...

Having another person in the car with you while operating a motor vehicle under the influence of intoxicants is reckless endangerment in the State of Oregon...

Good fathers don't recklessly endanger their children.

I disagree with Oregon statutes then. There is no correlation to divide his responsibility beyond the crime he committed. The statutes are nothing more than a safety net so they can get him on something.
Whether he risks his children or a pedestrian is equal in my eyes and should be equal in the courts eyes. Risk is an absurd law. Damages should be charged, but risk? You risk my life riding past my house! I was in the yard when you crashed into the hedge, therefore this insane risk statute should be equally applied. Or removed from the books.
If he hurt that child he should then be charged, but risk is fucked up.

Helmet law, seat belt law, three wheelers out lawed, child seats and the unbelievable amount of laws which should still be our rights to decide. Not the state!!!!!

chevybutcher · 06-02-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gusgus

I disagree with Oregon statutes then. There is no correlation to divide his responsibility beyond the crime he committed. The statutes are nothing more than a safety net so they can get him on something.
Whether he risks his children or a pedestrian is equal in my eyes and should be equal in the courts eyes. Risk is an absurd law. Damages should be charged, but risk? You risk my life riding past my house! I was in the yard when you crashed into the hedge, therefore this insane risk statute should be equally applied. Or removed from the books.
If he hurt that child he should then be charged, but risk is fucked up.

Helmet law, seat belt law, three wheelers out lawed, child seats and the unbelievable amount of laws which should still be our rights to decide. Not the state!!!!!

Risk is an absured law but we all risk you breathing everyday and know the harm that you can cause to our brains from your constant rambling but for now you are free to do so untill OHTERS say otherwise

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Same could be said for the A holes that wheelie down the Highway . They could lose their 450lb bike and it flips into the other lane killing a family in a automobile . That's involentary Manslaughter ! Not wrecking and just commiting the act is Wreckless indangerment .

So the guy who was drunk and killed a biker with his daughter in the truck was guilty of Manslaughter and wreckless endangerment because he put his child at risk . Had he not been drunk it would be a little bit different . Maybe no charges for endangering his child . Law's are ment to protect us from our own stupidity . They also want us to live longer so we can pay more tax's

Gusgus · 06-02-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by chevybutcher

Risk is an absured law but we all risk you breathing everyday and know the harm that you can cause to our brains from your constant rambling but for now you are free to do so untill OHTERS say otherwise

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Same could be said for the A holes that wheelie down the Highway . They could lose their 450lb bike and it flips into the other lane killing a family in a automobile . That's involentary Manslaughter ! Not wrecking and just commiting the act is Wreckless indangerment .

So the guy who was drunk and killed a biker with his daughter in the truck was guilty of Manslaughter and wreckless endangerment because he put his child at risk . Had he not been drunk it would be a little bit different . Maybe no charges for endangering his child . Law's are ment to protect us from our own stupidity . They also want us to live longer so we can pay more tax's

I don't want or need parenting by government. If anyone drives down the road and kills a biker through shear negligence, he should face the death penalty, period. His daughter uninjured except the knowledge of her fathers huge failure should be enough for them both.
My point is we allow more and more laws to close in on the same ones people aren't following now. I believe it is because of the anti-death penalty bunch supports the use of more soft touch correction, which did nothing to stop this bonehead from killing. One sure fix, kill him!
The child being there is only applicable if she assisted, empowered him to do such a thing or grabbed the wheel. The laws already exist, we don't need layer laws to soft touch criminals. We need laws simple and clear and then fecking follow through with them.

Wheely down the road fine, hit someone, kill some one you will surly die yourself, injure someone spend life in prison. Grow the feck up and deal with the responsibility we all have to each other or if you screw up it is serious, no more pussy justice! But that is just about as possible as Arizona being supported! Fecking people enabling crime and bitching about it, sound familiar?

a109driver · 06-02-2010, 10:37 PM

chevybutcher · 06-03-2010, 01:57 PM

I guess we should just do away with all forms of licensing and let people drive what ever they want . To hell with HAZMAT endorsements too . This should be applied with guns too . Fk the ATF laws , I want to carry a full auto AR 15 pistol

. We need to go back to the old west when we could shoot thieves and people that mean us harm . Go back to tying a rope around some dirtbags neck and swing them from a tree . Beat people for just being stupid

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05-30-2010, 10:11 PM	#1
MOTT Licensed Joined: Jan 2008 From: ST. HELENS OREGON I Ride: 1995 Ducati SS/SP And 2002 FSC 600	Fatal? heard you had one on the east end of town tonight? EDIT: link to story, Hang the motherfucker driving drunk, and with his kid in the car! http://www.kgw.com/news/Portland-man...-95253999.html __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by MOTT; 05-31-2010 at 07:59 AM..


05-30-2010, 10:21 PM	#2
Brian_M Pit Crew Joined: Nov 2007 From: Warrenton / Corvallis I Ride: 2002 Aprilia RST1000 2004 SV650	I heard the same thing, over by Tongue Point. My sister's boyfriend called saying traffic was backed up and was expected to be backed up for a few hours. I'm assuming it was backed up so long so they could do an investigation unfortunately. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-30-2010, 10:39 PM	#3
jonnyb347 Peg Dragger Joined: Aug 2009 From: Gresham, OR I Ride: 2005 Kawasaki 636	Another one? damn this sucks, summer hasn't even started. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-30-2010, 10:53 PM	#4
Storm of Swords Newbie Joined: Apr 2010 From: Eugene	I wouldn't be surprised if their are more crashes/fatalities in Spring than there are in Summer. Quite a few reasons... Lots of new bikers in Spring (me being one of them!), people showing off and/or going crazy on the first few rides of the year, and general excitement can make for crazy rides. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 07:43 AM	#5
Bill Clinton Endorsed Joined: May 2009 From: Yaaaaaaacolt I Ride: 05 Repsol	ASTORIA, Ore. -- A southeast Portland man driving with his 13-year-old daughter was arrested Sunday evening after crashing head-on into a motorcycle on Highway 30 east of Astoria, troopers said. Oregon State Police Lt. Duane Stanton said 44-year-old Kenneth Middleton was driving a pickup truck at about 6 p.m. Sunday near Tongue Point. He swerved into the westbound land on a blind curve and collided head-on into a motorcycle, troopers said. The motorcycle driver was thrown into a nearby field, Stanton said, and the truck dragged the motorcycle before stopping along the side of the highway. Troopers said they identified the motorcycle driver as 35-year-old Andrew Church, of Rainier. Church was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash. Middleton was taken to the Clatsop County Jail on charges of manslaughter, DUII, reckless driving, reckless endangering another person. Neither Middleton nor his daughter were injured, trooper said, and both were wearing seat belts. The investigation is ongoing, Stanton said. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 08:00 AM	#6
MOTT Licensed Joined: Jan 2008 From: ST. HELENS OREGON I Ride: 1995 Ducati SS/SP And 2002 FSC 600	http://www.kgw.com/news/Portland-man...-95253999.html link __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 10:46 AM	#7
95gst16g Pit Crew Joined: Feb 2010 From: Astoria...ish I Ride: 05 yamaha R6	Wow what a piece of shit....That sucks.Atleast he is getting charged with a bunch of shit. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 10:47 AM	#8
a109driver Shredder Joined: Jan 2008 From: Seaside/Warrenton, Oregon I Ride: 2004 Yamaha R1	I heard about it through some friends who were on Hwy 30 trying to get home from Rainier to Seaside. They were stuck on Hwy 30 in the backup. Does anyone here know the rider or the drunk driver that hit him? Did anyone hear what type of motorcyle he was on? I ride or drive that road everyday going to and from work. Those curves are the only fun part to ride. That really sucks for the rider. I wonder if he could have done anything to avoid it. From the report, it sounds like he was completely innocent in the accident. I worry more about animals jumping in front of me than cars coming into my lane. I doubt the rider would've been any better off if he was in a small car. If he had been in a bigger vehicle than the truck that hit him, it would have resulted in the drunk and his daughter being injured or killed also. Sad story for sure. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 01:37 PM	#9
chevybutcher Peg Dragger Joined: Feb 2010 From: Milwaukie Oregon I Ride: 01gsxr750 , 88gsxr1100 , and a few projects in boxes	It's always sad to hear of a tragedy like this . RIP to the rider and hopefully the drunk idiot will learn something from this WHILE spending some time behind bars . He could have injured or killed his own kid . Think of how his daughter is feeling right now ! I think penalties should be alot stiffer for DUI crimes . __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 01:48 PM	#10
Gusgus Thaumaturgist Joined: Dec 2008 From: In sane! Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: Valkyrie/R1150GS Adventure/KX500	If this one has a past record of DUII I will be off the top pissed! AND, if he gets off with "time served", or charges dropped or anything less than guilty of involuntary manslaughter I will be quite vocal as well. His daughter being in the car only shows his lack of awareness, it doesn't necessarily show his ability to be a good father or good provider. The act of driving drunk and killing is the only issue here! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 10:28 PM	#12
jlburgess Peg Dragger Joined: May 2009 From: West Linn, Oregon I Ride: Guzzi Griso 8V, Husaberg Supermoto, Yamaha TZ250, Duc 848 Evo Corse	I can't count the number of times pick up drivers have short cutted a corner directly into my lane. Remember to swing it wide and take a look, then dive in to hug the inside-it may save your life. It sucks that people are too drunk and lazy to stay on the right side of the road. I've been on the scene of 2 motorcycle fatalities now in the last 6 weeks and both had full safety gear and leathers __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-31-2010, 11:13 PM	#13
Osufireman Endorsed Joined: Apr 2009 From: Corvallis, OR I Ride: 1991 Kawasaki ZX-6	RIP Rider. Damn that just sucks all around. I'm glad they at least were able to arrest and charge the offender and he didn't run. Still doesn't make up for the fact that he ruined multiple people's lives. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-02-2010, 10:37 PM	#19
a109driver Shredder Joined: Jan 2008 From: Seaside/Warrenton, Oregon I Ride: 2004 Yamaha R1	^^^ __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-03-2010, 01:57 PM	#20
chevybutcher Peg Dragger Joined: Feb 2010 From: Milwaukie Oregon I Ride: 01gsxr750 , 88gsxr1100 , and a few projects in boxes	I guess we should just do away with all forms of licensing and let people drive what ever they want . To hell with HAZMAT endorsements too . This should be applied with guns too . Fk the ATF laws , I want to carry a full auto AR 15 pistol . We need to go back to the old west when we could shoot thieves and people that mean us harm . Go back to tying a rope around some dirtbags neck and swing them from a tree . Beat people for just being stupid . __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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