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Old 07-11-2012, 11:51 AM   #41
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Looks to my untrained eye that he ran into the truck going sideways..
Tried to dodge and high sided into the truck?

What kind of hit does it take to bend the swingarm like that?

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:59 AM   #42
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All of this seems to be assuming that the truck was not moving and that all of the force came from the bike.
I don't buy any of Jason King's story. None of it adds up.
I wish I were an accident reconstruction expert. Or at least that one would release some information.
It's adds up pretty well to me. And yeah I'm assuming most of the force came from the bike, because the truck would have been slowed down enough to make the left into a driveway and what speed he would have had directed toward the bike would be minimal cause he would have been moving mostly in the direction of the driveway.

We don't have the reconstruction experts thoughts released, but we do have a clue about them. Didn't the article mention the truck driver probably wasn't going to be cited?

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Old 07-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #43
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Look into the drivers family history.
Look into the riders history.
Then look at the tendency for drivers to actually see any repercussions from incidents like this.
That is why he's not getting cited.

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Old 07-11-2012, 12:25 PM   #44
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I wasn't gonna say anything in this thread but some of the comments are just stupid.

We all ride bikes here, we're all "on the same team" and we all understand the dangers, but to automatically blame the truck driver for this is naive. LOOK AT THE DAMAGE! Do you realize what it takes to do that kind of damage to a full size pickup truck??? Most cars wouldn't do that...

The kid was hauling ass when he shouldn't have been and put himself into that situation. Irregardless of whether or not that truck pulled out in front of him, he was asking for it. If the driver was at fault and the rider was doing 35 like he should have been, he likely could have stopped in time and at the least not put himself into critical condition. We learn early on that riding bikes is all about risk management and this kid took his chances and it bit him.

Sorry but anyone who goes to the defense of the rider is out of it. Slow down or go to the track...how many times must it be said?

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Old 07-11-2012, 12:27 PM   #45
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Look into the drivers family history.
Look into the riders history.
Then look at the tendency for drivers to actually see any repercussions from incidents like this.
That is why he's not getting cited.
Oh bullshit. You really think the cops are going to look into these people's histories before citing anyone. I think they're just going to look at the evidence at the scene... If they can be bothered to put their donuts down long enough to even do that much work.

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Old 07-11-2012, 12:29 PM   #46
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Oh bullshit.
Did you do what I suggested?

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Old 07-11-2012, 02:13 PM   #47
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:15 PM   #48
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Yours too??

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Old 07-11-2012, 02:18 PM   #49
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Did you do what I suggested?
No. I told you I'm too busy to do your sister this week.

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Old 07-11-2012, 07:50 PM   #50
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I just looked up some stopping distances for 60-0, coming up with plenty of results under 200ft. I'd say it's pretty clear the rider was waay above his abilities and the speed limit if he couldn't shut it down in time or at least slow down enough to swerve away. I dunno about you guys, but I'll be the first to say that a small object like a bike at 100yards away is pretty fucking difficult to judge the speed of, so when I'm expecting a 35-45mph vehicle, yeah it's gonna come up fucking fast if he was going fast enough that he couldn't shut it down in time. so quit all yer circle jerking motorcycles are never at fault shit, cause we've all seen what squids are capable of. I'm not saying the truck should have made the turn, and definitely not stopped in the middle of the turn, but for fucks sake not everyone on the road has the same kind of quick thinking us riders have (or think we have...) You all know grandma is driving around on the same streets as us so keep your heads on and act like everyone's gonna have the same reaction time as her.

now go get back on your bikes and do some hooliganing around outside of town!

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Old 07-11-2012, 08:20 PM   #51
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I just looked up some stopping distances for 60-0, coming up with plenty of results under 200ft. I'd say it's pretty clear the rider was waay above his abilities and the speed limit if he couldn't shut it down in time or at least slow down enough to swerve away. I dunno about you guys, but I'll be the first to say that a small object like a bike at 100yards away is pretty fucking difficult to judge the speed of, so when I'm expecting a 35-45mph vehicle, yeah it's gonna come up fucking fast if he was going fast enough that he couldn't shut it down in time. so quit all yer circle jerking motorcycles are never at fault shit, cause we've all seen what squids are capable of. I'm not saying the truck should have made the turn, and definitely not stopped in the middle of the turn, but for fucks sake not everyone on the road has the same kind of quick thinking us riders have (or think we have...) You all know grandma is driving around on the same streets as us so keep your heads on and act like everyone's gonna have the same reaction time as her.

now go get back on your bikes and do some hooliganing around outside of town!
amen to that

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Old 07-11-2012, 08:30 PM   #52
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I'd say this thread is s pretty good example of why I like riding with the b'hammers. Look at their answers and you'll understand.

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Old 07-11-2012, 08:56 PM   #53
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5-guys tomorrow Bluuu........... you coming?
I thought about, believe me. But I can't. Nicole and I are headed out to the marina tomorrow for 3 or 4 days to finish the brightwork...or as much as I can. It's taking me a lot longer than I thought. Please send my best wishes to Fred and I'll do my best to come up for the next one to see him.

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Old 07-11-2012, 09:22 PM   #54
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:34 PM   #55
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Christopher M. Whitbeck, 28, was speeding at "65-plus mph" Tuesday morning, July 10, when he crashed his 2006 Honda CBR motorbike head-on into a westbound Nissan Titan, said Bellingham Police spokesman Mark Young.
dr;tl?

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:27 AM   #56
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I just looked up some stopping distances for 60-0, coming up with plenty of results under 200ft.
Keep in mind that the rider's speed and distance were all estimated by someone who originally misjudged the riders speed and distance in the first place, which led to the crash. Also, I'm sure everyone here knows how easy it is to be way off in estimation of speed and distance, especially after an accident in which you are at fault.

RIP rider.

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Old 07-12-2012, 08:58 AM   #57
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Rip rider, and rip thread! May you cause many a awkward bikenight for everyone who remembers who they disagree with

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:54 PM   #58
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Pretty sad. The guy left behind a five-year-old son.

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Old 07-14-2012, 08:34 AM   #59
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Very few threads have lowered my respect for motorcycle riders like this one has.

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Old 07-16-2012, 09:00 PM   #60
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Cracks me up how everyone is basing their assumptions on the fucking Bellingham Herald! It's one step up from the enquirer, and not a very big step.

The bellingham PD accident guys are all riders. They know their shit. There are no politics involved. It is what it is.

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