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Old 01-28-2008, 10:38 AM   #1
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I want to build one of these: 450moto "super single"
these look bad-ass:


from : http://www.450moto.com/


I bet riding up mt baker would be amazing on one of that bike.

here is a pdf i found on what it takes to build one



I'd start with a bike like this and keep the plate on it . edit: crap, the post is gone. It was a street legal WR450F with title & plates from AZ, should transfer right over to WA.

and my favorite picture:



not exactly the same, but close enough. a Honda RS125 frame with a CRF450R motor. I think this guy is semi-local? this page says he's from Oregon/WA

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Old 01-28-2008, 10:49 AM   #2
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Me likey! Doesn't look like that difficult of a build. BTW Henri, I haven't forgotten about the standup video game. My wife and I are looking to move to Ferndale, so once that is complete, I'll get in touch with you about that.

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Old 01-28-2008, 11:11 AM   #3
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wow thats cool ...

would love to see a build up from beginning to end. sounds like its too recent in the development process for that to be available just yet.

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Old 01-28-2008, 11:40 AM   #4
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I can see me having alot of fun on one of those!

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Old 01-28-2008, 12:08 PM   #5
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can they be street legal?

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Old 01-28-2008, 01:39 PM   #6
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“ Quote:
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can they be street legal?
You will need a lighting coil and a battery. Working brake light switch.

I posted up some stuff on this bike class in Central a couple of months ago.
The AMA is developing a class for these to race in.
Super reliable, super inexpensive to operate.
What a great entry level GP road racer!

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Old 01-28-2008, 02:03 PM   #7
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I posted up some stuff on this bike class in Central a couple of months ago.
The AMA is developing a class for these to race in.
Super reliable, super inexpensive to operate.
What a great entry level GP road racer!

not new-news by any means, but I was talking to zx14tomcat about this class of bikes over the weekend and he looked at me kinda funny...

do you have a link to your earlier post?

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Old 01-28-2008, 03:38 PM   #8
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You will need a lighting coil and a battery. Working brake light switch.

I posted up some stuff on this bike class in Central a couple of months ago.
The AMA is developing a class for these to race in.
Super reliable, super inexpensive to operate.
What a great entry level GP road racer!
granted the w.s.p. would have to inspect it?!

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Old 01-28-2008, 05:18 PM   #9
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from what i understand you need to start with a dirt bike that has a plate and street title

in WA you can't convert any of the japanese 450s (they have "not for street use" or something on the bill of sale).

but, if you get one that has a title and plate from some other state you are golden. I'm not sure if you can still do it in Oregon, but up till recently it didn't seem to be that big of a pain. I'm pretty sure you can still it in AZ.

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Old 01-28-2008, 05:23 PM   #10
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granted the w.s.p. would have to inspect it?!
Yes they will, as you will need to put a plate on it.

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Old 01-28-2008, 05:27 PM   #11
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not new-news by any means, but I was talking to zx14tomcat about this class of bikes over the weekend and he looked at me kinda funny...

do you have a link to your earlier post?
Link...http://www.pnwriders.com/forum/showt...uper+single%22

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Old 01-29-2008, 12:41 PM   #12
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These look like a great way to get into racing and would be a blast on the street. I'd love to see a smaller/lighter bike that still has higher end components and rides well on the street.

Jason

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Old 01-29-2008, 01:42 PM   #13
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so what are those 450's, P-twins? dumb question, i just dont do dirtbikes

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Old 01-29-2008, 01:56 PM   #14
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Big single's

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:12 PM   #15
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They sure look fun to hop on to.
Seen videos on youtube.

But as for now they are lookin a lil bit spendy, even if u get parts from bike junkers.

Check out r. Sands' bike on youtube. Ohlins shock will probably set u back 350+ zx6r's wheels, triple tree, forks reaersets that's already more than a grand, although I must say, race tires will last longer on thiese bikes than bigger fours.

Ill wait a couple more years.

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:17 PM   #16
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Post a link to R.Sands on Utube!

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:36 PM   #17
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Oh, just do a search of supermono on youtube and they'll pop out, sorry, I really can't go on youtube right now I'm only on my cell phone hahaha

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:42 PM   #18
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Oh, just do a search of supermono on youtube and they'll pop out, sorry, I really can't go on youtube right now I'm only on my cell phone hahaha

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:53 PM   #19
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They are still cheap compared to race prepping a current 600 SS bike. The price for the Ohlins shock is more like 350+++, according to racetech they are more like $1500 and not available in the correct size/rate. To have the stock MX shock reworked it is ~$600, used 450 MXer from a few years ago can be found for $3000 and then the fork and bodywork. I'd guess you could have one running for $5000 if you are thrifty and creative. Price for a turnkey bike is supposed to be $10k-15k but again considerably less expensive than a new turnkey GSXR-600.

Ask Piper907 how much he has into his race bike.

Jason

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Old 01-29-2008, 04:01 PM   #20
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from the pdf i posted:

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1. Budget builder. Have a crashed 450 in your garage, you want to go road racing. Buy some Ebay parts, rob your friends, beg barrow and steal. Fabricate what you can your self, buy only what you need to get on the track. Approximate cost of $3000, depending on your building skill. Buy a used bike and parts and you're around $8000.

not cheap... there is no reason why you can't do it cheaper and not have a race-competitive bike, but still have something really fun for the twisties and trackdays

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