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Old 02-16-2011, 09:07 PM   #41
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That couch is about to go up for sale!
Whadda you day, 0311?
Battle couch could be YOUR next great adventure?!?!
Bwaaahahahahaha
Q - If I hadn't been supporting the economy so well by adding farkles to the FJR for the next Oregon trip, perhaps . . . But wait, if the "couch" ( ) has got tread, that's something I'm out of at the moment - maybe there's a deal here with CB? And the local officials wouldn't recognize the wheels down here.

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Old 03-18-2011, 08:38 PM   #42
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I Ride: '07 FJR 1300 #1 - deceased. 07 FJR 1300 #2 in the stable.
Michelin PR 3s
Well, went for the new Michelin Pilot Road 3s on my FJR 1300. Put on 760 mi. this past weekend. So far, so good. Road nice. Had some wet weather, in which I back off considerably, and there was a lot of crack sealing that I wasn't sure about, but they did fine. Good at speed too. Appear to be wearing well, had more straights than I would have liked. May need to dial in one more click of dampening, noted just a little wear on the leading edge of the groove on the outside edge. Overall, happy with them. Previous tires were Dunlop Road Smart, which were good too.

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Old 03-19-2011, 04:42 PM   #43
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May need to dial in one more click of dampening, noted just a little wear on the leading edge of the groove on the outside edge.
The art of suspension.......always one more click

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Old 03-19-2011, 07:12 PM   #44
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May need to dial in one more click of dampening, noted just a little wear on the leading edge of the groove on the outside edge.
You may wanna try a REBOUND change first -- that's the clicker on TOP if you have "upside down" forks

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Old 03-19-2011, 07:29 PM   #45
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read this:

http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~gar...or-Mortals.pdf

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Old 03-19-2011, 08:01 PM   #46
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DC, Thanks, I can read this while its raining tomorrow. Jackal and I were working on suspension some time back, he's got a video on reading tire wear that was nice, but he hasn't copied it yet for me.

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Old 03-22-2011, 04:25 PM   #47
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Saw Limoncello at the MotoGP party Sunday.
She said her PP 2CT's lasted more than 7,000 miles!!!

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Old 03-22-2011, 05:42 PM   #48
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Saw Limoncello at the MotoGP party Sunday.
She said her PP 2CT's lasted more than 7,000 miles!!!
WTF?? I wonder if that includes launches at the drag strip??

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Old 03-22-2011, 06:18 PM   #49
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Come on guys, she’s got to weight what? 80 lbs?! The bike is basically launching itself down the strip; she’s just there for suspension ballast…..



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Jackal and I were working on suspension some time back, he's got a video on reading tire wear that was nice, but he hasn't copied it yet for me.
D'oh!

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Old 03-22-2011, 06:47 PM   #50
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WTF?? I wonder if that includes launches at the drag strip??
That's three trips to the strip (about 40+ runs). I don't do burnouts.


They got flat spots baaaad.

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Old 03-22-2011, 07:11 PM   #51
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And Officially, Q put that back tire on at 7,032 miles. She's sitting at 14,265 and the tire is still on and ride-able. Some of you could get another thousand or two out of it.

That's 7,233 miles and counting... till I put the M5s on.

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Old 03-23-2011, 01:12 AM   #52
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Cords not even showing yet... I'd ride it till it popped.

PS, is that pic from my garage? I thought I got most of the sawdust swept up.

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Old 03-23-2011, 01:08 PM   #53
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Hmm...I wonder if they'd stay more round without the strip launching. If so, I think I may put those on Trinity...and when she's completed...Charity.

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Old 03-23-2011, 05:25 PM   #54
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Installed New Front Tire Today
I installed a new Front Tire today:


New Pilot Power 2CT Tire

The original - a Bridgestone Battleax - lasted 3800 miles.
I installed the rear at 3,000.

I am trying DynaBeads for balancing.
Hopefully they'll run fine at speed...

And of course, as soon as I get everything back on and torqued properly, it's RAINING outside!!!

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Hmm...I wonder if they'd stay more round without the strip launching. If so, I think I may put those on Trinity...and when she's completed...Charity.
I think it all boils down to how aggressive you are when cornering.
Jackal's sides wear out WAY before his centerlines do.

The tire I just replaced -- the original Battleax that came on the bike -- was the FIRST tire I ever hit the wear bars on the sides before I did in the center!

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Old 03-23-2011, 06:55 PM   #55
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Hmm...I wonder if they'd stay more round without the strip launching. If so, I think I may put those on Trinity...and when she's completed...Charity.
Ya man, that cupped tire was definitely caused by the drag strip launches.

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I think it all boils down to how aggressive you are when cornering.
Jackal's sides wear out WAY before his centerlines do.

The tire I just replaced -- the original Battleax that came on the bike -- was the FIRST tire I ever hit the wear bars on the sides before I did in the center!


Hmm, every tire I've ever owned has worn down the center WAY before the sides even got close. Guess i better start cornering more aggressively...

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Old 03-23-2011, 08:53 PM   #56
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Hmm, every tire I've ever owned has worn down the center WAY before the sides even got close. Guess i better start cornering more aggressively...
Dual Compound tires REALLY help with center wear.
I would NEVER say you weren't cornering aggressively enough, Sam!
Sheesh - most times I cannot (or choose not to even try to) keep up with you!

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Old 03-23-2011, 10:41 PM   #57
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Dual Compound tires REALLY help with center wear.
I would NEVER say you weren't cornering aggressively enough, Sam!
Sheesh - most times I cannot (or choose not to even try to) keep up with you!
LOL i'm just messing with you Q

I guess my point is, there are a lot of factors when it comes to tire wear. One thing i noticed last summer, was how quickly those roughly paved back roads chewed up my tires. Also, if your tire has a slow leak and you run it for a while at low psi it EATS up rubber (dont ask me how i know). Exiting a corner in your power band and really getting on the throttle definitely burns rubber faster. Hard braking = more tire wear as well.

In my opinion, the problem with dual compound tires is the compound is softer on the edge, not harder in the center. Pilot Power 2ct's for example, are a regular Pilot Power with soft edges. This does nothing to increase the life of the tire, only adds more "grip" to the tires edge. Kinda pointless for a street tire.

The idea behind the Pilot Road 2 Tire, is a harder center compound, with a still resonably soft edge. I've heard these tires are awesome and i've seen them in action on multiple occasions. The only problem is they are more expensive than Pilot Powers.

So anyways, in my opinion the best solution is just the classic Pilot Powers. They are cheap, have a decent amount of tread life, and way more grip than any mere mortal can take advantage of on the street.

Yes, i like Michelin's. (But only because they offer an awesome street tire at an affordable price)

/Tire rant

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Old 03-24-2011, 07:05 AM   #58
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The idea behind the Pilot Road 2 Tire, is a harder center compound, with a still resonably soft edge. I've heard these tires are awesome and i've seen them in action on multiple occasions. The only problem is they are more expensive than Pilot Powers.
for PR2s. Granted, I don't run them hard, but my last set lasted over 10,000 miles. Sure they're more expensive, but you get that back in tire life. IMHO, a 3,000 mile tire has WAY more grip than I'll ever need...and at 3,000 miles a set, I would've needed 4 sets last year. Instead, I went through a single set of Pilot Road 2s. So were the Pilot Road 2s more expensive? Quite the opposite.

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Yes, i like Michelin's. (But only because they offer an awesome street tire at an affordable price)
Agreed...wholeheartedly.

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Old 03-24-2011, 09:15 AM   #59
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for PR2s. Granted, I don't run them hard, but my last set lasted over 10,000 miles. Sure they're more expensive, but you get that back in tire life. IMHO, a 3,000 mile tire has WAY more grip than I'll ever need...and at 3,000 miles a set, I would've needed 4 sets last year. Instead, I went through a single set of Pilot Road 2s. So were the Pilot Road 2s more expensive? Quite the opposite.

Ya, the value of the Road 2's is definitely hard to beat. The initial cost is more, but you definitely make up for the difference in price quickly since they last about twice as long as Pilot Powers. And the whole thing about them "having less grip" is total nonsense. I've seen some insanely aggressive riding on those tires and they didn't skip a beat. The only downside to the Road 2's is they are heavier than pilot powers, and their profile isn't as aggressive (I really like the aggressive profile on the pilot powers). Other than that its a damn awesome street tire in my opinion.

In the end, its all mental. It's all about what makes you more comfortable on the bike. Almost all modern sport tires all perform within a very close margin. No matter how good you think you are at riding, you will NEVER out ride your tires on the street.

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Old 03-24-2011, 09:53 AM   #60
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You know I read all that, but all I heard was "Buy Q2's". Must be something in my head...



















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