PNW Riders

smoothytaggert · 10-29-2009, 08:03 AM

http://www.kxly.com/news/21458560/detail.html

frickin season isn't over yet...
I don't get it

blueline15 · 10-29-2009, 08:06 AM

that sucks

i feel bad for his family that wont have him around for the holidays this year

Avboden · 10-29-2009, 08:11 AM

Really shitty :-(

crazylady · 10-29-2009, 09:16 AM

blarson · 10-29-2009, 10:47 AM

suxor. When I hear "loss of control" I really wonder what actually happened. Did the car pull out in front of him and he lost it on the brakes? Was he being too aggressive through a corner and layed it down? etc. Too bad we don't have good news outlets. We can't bring back the dead so lets at least learn something from tragedies like these.

strangerin · 10-29-2009, 11:11 AM

^^^^^ going to guess either KXLY updated article or blar didn't read down.
Ghost Rider-speeding-lost control-crossed center line-slid into oncoming car.
Sometimes it is preventable and it's Not fault of a cage.

Boosoccer · 10-29-2009, 11:41 AM

either way it was another tragic loss. just another reminder that you never know what can happen. ride safe

DoubleD · 10-29-2009, 02:58 PM

spolic · 10-29-2009, 03:35 PM

How about the poor person who was in the car....doing nothing wrong.

Blues Brothers · 10-29-2009, 03:45 PM

Sad news...

ICEMANFTR · 10-30-2009, 07:44 AM

R.i.p

Paul · 10-30-2009, 04:55 PM

R.i.p

JONNY ROCKET · 10-31-2009, 07:56 AM

r.i.p.

Wild Angel · 10-31-2009, 09:57 AM

Karma on this one I hear on the news this Ghost Rider was a Murder that spent some time in prison.

Elwood · 11-01-2009, 12:05 PM

Wild Angle is right on, crimnal dead, he won't hurt anyone else, won't be selling drugs to your kids, etc.

mustang1 · 11-01-2009, 12:24 PM

live to ride, ride TO live. R.I.P. he'll answer to the big man now.

Gusgus · 11-01-2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Elwood

Wild Angle is right on, crimnal dead, he won't hurt anyone else, won't be selling drugs to your kids, etc.

Please explain.

I am saddened by the news, but would like to know more of the inside story.

Please?

Dr E · 11-01-2009, 03:37 PM

As is with all deaths... there are many victims. My prayers go out to everyone effected by this.

Elwood · 11-01-2009, 07:08 PM

Gusgus, Read the newpaper article then google they guys name, ex-con, prison time, read about the Ghost Riders also. Not he kind of people you want next door or even to hang with.

Gusgus · 11-01-2009, 07:36 PM

If this is the same slimeball who died, I couldn't have predicted a better ending, except the poor family. Yet they will have a great story from now on.

Here is the link!

Thanks Elwood.

gsxrinspokane · 11-01-2009, 10:48 PM

eye for an eye. looks like he got what he deserved

hOOzRauB · 11-02-2009, 01:27 PM

Ghost Riders MC practicing drive-by's on bikes. Hmm...

http://www.ghostridersnation.com/html/drive_by.html

Gusgus · 11-02-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by hOOzRauB

Ghost Riders MC practicing drive-by's on bikes. Hmm...

http://www.ghostridersnation.com/html/drive_by.html

Who were the numbskulls standing close to the targets?

They weren't worried about their cars either, were they?

strangerin · 11-03-2009, 11:08 AM

looks like riding to Left of line is just another day in life...
http://picasaweb.google.com/omcgrmc/...62103426358738

here's pic from game- at least u don't have to ride HD to belong or maybe that's just "friend"
http://picasaweb.google.com/Lightnin...20523112008834

smoothytaggert · 11-03-2009, 01:43 PM

I wannab12

Haven't we all done things that we regret though...

I still ride over the other line... I've been known on numerous occasions to even hit the shoulder with a vigorous nature as well.

The way things change in our daily lives... the rumble strips are reminiscent of a vibrator for me

Baldy · 11-03-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by hOOzRauB

Ghost Riders MC practicing drive-by's on bikes. Hmm...

http://www.ghostridersnation.com/html/drive_by.html

Who were the numbskulls standing close to the targets?

They weren't worried about their cars either, were they?

They were using a CO2 powered BB gun so it might sting a bit but no real danger as for the cars they are a MC who cares about dings in the paint or chipped glass in the cage. could say more about the video but I'll chime in on topic instead. As for the murderer statement, it would seem he paid at least some of his debt to society with having served time. If he was in deed a drug dealer than I say good riddance. I do feel some sympathy for the family he left behind

Boosoccer · 11-03-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by hOOzRauB

Ghost Riders MC practicing drive-by's on bikes. Hmm...

http://www.ghostridersnation.com/html/drive_by.html

If those are BB guns are not, that is really scary! in general why would you want to practice shooting guns on a bike??? Bike are to be ridden not used as a weapon. WOW.....thats just scary to think about

smoothytaggert · 11-03-2009, 08:51 PM

^^^ Farmers do have rock salt in thier guns as well G-MA ^^^
i's no differnt ten ben shut for traspasssin in yer back yerd
maybe they were just showing the community what it takes to be SAFE

rowlex · 11-03-2009, 09:36 PM

O those co2 powered BB guns hurt.

buddy of mine still has a BB in his gut.

oli · 11-08-2009, 01:31 AM

Listof7 · 11-08-2009, 04:09 PM

First off this rider was a NW Born NW Bred Ghost Rider, which is not the same as the clubs being referenced to in the previous posts.
There seems to be several clubs with similar names mentioned in this thread. You might say it shows how mixed & in accurate info found online is often passed off half cocked as total truth.

I need to air somethings. Here's what really bugs me about so many righteous people, with a few TIDBITS of one sided info, some (not all) people have passed judgment and even gone so far as to say Wayne deserved to died because he killed a few men. Well, you've said yourself that some people deserve to die, so could it be that those men Wayne killed, lived the 1% life and died by their own rules, while NO innocent parties where involved. I can tell you he did kill a few people and they seemed to have it coming, although it did still trouble him at times. If you knew the true situations though, you would "pray" to have a man like Wayne on your side to SAVE YOUR LIFE = even if that meant he'd have to serve time in prison to SAVE YOUR LIFE, which was without a doubt what happened in one of the cases. Live by the sword, die by the sword. He never bragged, didn't even like to talk about it, but he did what had to be done, I for one, respect that and hope I can measure up if ever the need be.

Wayne was a good man, and unless you walked in his shoes or at least on a similar path, you have no valid input. He was a fiercely loyal man, and somebody you'd be honored & grateful to have around. ALSO, where all the drug dealer B.S. came from, I don't know, but it's false, it's more of the righteous passing judgment based on little knowledge, Hollywood magic and limited experiences. He wasn't a drug dealer, he served his time and was trying his best to keep and enjoy his freedom with his one true love. You can bash me, call me a liar, but that's a fact.

Now here's some more facts, this man was a military vet, in his later years he counseled youth groups about what can happen if you make certain choices, and even though he killed when he had to (mutual combatant situations), he was loved by nearly everyone who knew him, he didn't brag or boost, he worked leather for a living, he left behind a widow - the woman he loved and the woman who loved him as deeply as could ever be possible. AND after riding over 30 years this was his ONE & ONLY serious accident -- that's not a rider who doesn't have control of his scooter, Wayne rode coast to coast and top to bottom of this great country many times & after more miles than anyone could count & 30+ YEARS accident free, I'd say he qualifies as a MASTER rider, not a dare devil who was "asking for it" Sure he cut loose now and then when it was safe and clear, but he was a skilled rider.

For those who wonder what really might have happened, wonder how they can try to avoid an accident like this... we doubt Wayne was passing, it may have appeared that way, but it wasn't his style, not in that situation. Wayne was testing a vibration in his front end, it's possible a parts failure lead to a loss of control. There's also a possibility of heart/health issues, but that will be told by the autopsy. I may post when we know for sure, but if I don't, I wanted to make it clear that the chances Wayne was being a hot shot are VERY SLIM, this was almost certainly caused by other factors which resulted in loss of control.

These are the facts from someone who knows, not watered down judgments. AND I'll say this clearly, Wayne won me over, I met him with a preconceived idea of who he was and I didn't want to like him, but god dam it, he was a hell of a good guy to be around and to have around! And if you knew him and he liked you, you'd have liked him too. He was true to his ideals and lived his life on his terms, who of us can say the same.

As for the car he hit, no fault there, I wish the kid hadn't been riding. I have wondered if a different reaction, could the final out come might have been changed? Say, was it possible the car could have run onto the shoulder, instead of stopping in the middle of his lane? BUT it is what it is, and I'm not blaming the car's driver, it was surely over quick and the driver did what he thought best, I can't say I'd do any better. Hind sights always perfect. I only mention hitting the shoulder as a possible thought should anyone else ever be in this situation.

Spook, I know you passed over the divide EXACTLY how you wanted to, wind in your hair sitting on a Harley with the yellow lines going by -- NOW THAT'S KARMA!!! Ride On Spook. We all just wish you'd have waited a few more years. I wish I had more time to learn from you, dam it, you sure could tell a hell of story, I was sure trying to pick your brain on that!!

DoubleD · 11-08-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Listof7

First off this rider was a NW Born NW Bred Ghost Rider, which is not the same as the clubs being referenced to in the previous posts.
There seems to be several clubs with similar names mentioned in this thread. You might say it shows how mixed & in accurate info found online is often passed off half cocked as total truth.

I need to air somethings. Here's what really bugs me about so many righteous people, with a few TIDBITS of one sided info, some (not all) people have passed judgment and even gone so far as to say Wayne deserved to died because he killed a few men. Well, you've said yourself that some people deserve to die, so could it be that those men Wayne killed, lived the 1% life and died by their own rules, while NO innocent parties where involved. I can tell you he did kill a few people and they seemed to have it coming, although it did still trouble him at times. If you knew the true situations though, you would "pray" to have a man like Wayne on your side to SAVE YOUR LIFE = even if that meant he'd have to serve time in prison to SAVE YOUR LIFE, which was without a doubt what happened in one of the cases. Live by the sword, die by the sword. He never bragged, didn't even like to talk about it, but he did what had to be done, I for one, respect that and hope I can measure up if ever the need be.

Wayne was a good man, and unless you walked in his shoes or at least on a similar path, you have no valid input. He was a fiercely loyal man, and somebody you'd be honored & grateful to have around. ALSO, where all the drug dealer B.S. came from, I don't know, but it's false, it's more of the righteous passing judgment based on little knowledge, Hollywood magic and limited experiences. He wasn't a drug dealer, he served his time and was trying his best to keep and enjoy his freedom with his one true love. You can bash me, call me a liar, but that's a fact.

Now here's some more facts, this man was a military vet, in his later years he counseled youth groups about what can happen if you make certain choices, and even though he killed when he had to (mutual combatant situations), he was loved by nearly everyone who knew him, he didn't brag or boost, he worked leather for a living, he left behind a widow - the woman he loved and the woman who loved him as deeply as could ever be possible. AND after riding over 30 years this was his ONE & ONLY serious accident -- that's not a rider who doesn't have control of his scooter, Wayne rode coast to coast and top to bottom of this great country many times & after more miles than anyone could count & 30+ YEARS accident free, I'd say he qualifies as a MASTER rider, not a dare devil who was "asking for it" Sure he cut loose now and then when it was safe and clear, but he was a skilled rider.

For those who wonder what really might have happened, wonder how they can try to avoid an accident like this... we doubt Wayne was passing, it may have appeared that way, but it wasn't his style, not in that situation. Wayne was testing a vibration in his front end, it's possible a parts failure lead to a loss of control. There's also a possibility of heart/health issues, but that will be told by the autopsy. I may post when we know for sure, but if I don't, I wanted to make it clear that the chances Wayne was being a hot shot are VERY SLIM, this was almost certainly caused by other factors which resulted in loss of control.

These are the facts from someone who knows, not watered down judgments. AND I'll say this clearly, Wayne won me over, I met him with a preconceived idea of who he was and I didn't want to like him, but god dam it, he was a hell of a good guy to be around and to have around! And if you knew him and he liked you, you'd have liked him too. He was true to his ideals and lived his life on his terms, who of us can say the same.

As for the car he hit, no fault there, I wish the kid hadn't been riding. I have wondered if a different reaction, could the final out come might have been changed? Say, was it possible the car could have run onto the shoulder, instead of stopping in the middle of his lane? BUT it is what it is, and I'm not blaming the car's driver, it was surely over quick and the driver did what he thought best, I can't say I'd do any better. Hind sights always perfect. I only mention hitting the shoulder as a possible thought should anyone else ever be in this situation.

Spook, I know you passed over the divide EXACTLY how you wanted to, wind in your hair sitting on a Harley with the yellow lines going by -- NOW THAT'S KARMA!!! Ride On Spook. We all just wish you'd have waited a few more years. I wish I had more time to learn from you, dam it, you sure could tell a hell of story, I was sure trying to pick your brain on that!!

Thank You so much for posting. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend and I certainly feel a heavy heart for his wife. It is not our place to judge someone and I'm sorry that has happened here. But I'm glad your were able to honor your friend by telling us his story.....MrsD

brantdw · 11-08-2009, 05:07 PM

Welcome to the internet. Everyone elaborates the stories. In reality everyone is special and has a place in this world. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. In reality he was another brother bike rider that died a needless death. Bike riding is just dangerous in its own right. To see people die is the worst. I vote we drop this thread, honor a downed rider and move on. Thanks for the posting Listof7. RIP rider.

strangerin · 11-10-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by brantdw

Welcome to the internet. Everyone elaborates the stories. In reality everyone is special and has a place in this world. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. In reality he was another brother bike rider that died a needless death. Bike riding is just dangerous in its own right. To see people die is the worst. I vote we drop this thread, honor a downed rider and move on. Thanks for the posting Listof7. RIP rider.

Well thanks, but 1% MC club member = prob not going to be a brother of mine.
And I find the whole "brother biker rider" thing strange as some riders are the type U would start a neighborhood watch for if they moved in.

PS: Kind of curious how a club can wear the patch but not be part of the national club?

Gusgus · 11-10-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by brantdw

Welcome to the internet. Everyone elaborates the stories. In reality everyone is special and has a place in this world. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. In reality he was another brother bike rider that died a needless death. Bike riding is just dangerous in its own right. To see people die is the worst. I vote we drop this thread, honor a downed rider and move on. Thanks for the posting Listof7. RIP rider.

There is no need to drop the thread, especially since we, for the first time have the other side explained.

Thanks Listof7 for your "other side" of the story.

It paints the picture much clearer and is exactly what we all need to help understand the facts proceeding his incident.
That said, I hurt for his widow, his friends and everyone who will miss his stories and experience.
However both sides of this story are clearer and neither side should be excused. He killed people, maybe they deserved it. I accept your explanation and almost want to excuse him, since you make such a good case. But it is not my choice, the courts did that for me, his path and history tell a completely opposite story than yours.
The trouble with joining into the "biker" persona is that you're accepting your inclusion in the known violence possibilities and a generic hatred of the culture by most of the population. The chances of confrontation (which gets people killed) increases instantly after joining in these groups. Had he not been a member, or a 1%'r the chances of his time away and his demise might have been eliminated if not changed considerably.
Do I wish he had died, no, I don't. But I also don't shed a tear for him.

I hope he rests in peace.

smoothytaggert · 11-10-2009, 12:12 PM

^^

^^ on

I was just posting about the accident. Then someone had to do some research on it and slander the guy regardless of what his background, he was a rider. Not my brother by riding (I only know of a couple I could say that to -even then it'd be weird). As for the 'group' he belonged to, wow, I understand the reason I ride, and for some odd reason it doesn't fit into that genre of folk. Yes we all know that there are those that ARE definitely like this, but it's not my forte. For the gentleman to feel like the guy's memory was backed into a corner, I'm sorry for bringing light to another downed rider. I do however remember one thing my pops told me as a kid and young adult(like last year or so ago)

You are perceived (if you choose to be) by the people you hang out with, so choose wisely my friend, Choose WISELY.

On a sidenote, Thank you GUSGUS for giving me that insight

You and your wisdom

Gusgus · 11-10-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by smoothytaggert

^^

^^ on

I was just posting about the accident. Then someone had to do some research on it and slander the guy regardless of what his background, he was a rider. Not my brother by riding (I only know of a couple I could say that to -even then it'd be weird). As for the 'group' he belonged to, wow, I understand the reason I ride, and for some odd reason it doesn't fit into that genre of folk. Yes we all know that there are those that ARE definitely like this, but it's not my forte. For the gentleman to feel like the guy's memory was backed into a corner, I'm sorry for bringing light to another downed rider. I do however remember one thing my pops told me as a kid and young adult(like last year or so ago)

You are perceived (if you choose to be) by the people you hang out with, so choose wisely my friend, Choose WISELY.

On a sidenote, Thank you GUSGUS for giving me that insight

You and your wisdom

smoothytaggert · 11-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by smoothytaggert

I do however remember one thing my pops told me as a kid and young adult(like last year or so ago)

You are perceived (if you choose to be) by the people you hang out with, so choose wisely my friend, Choose WISELY.

On a sidenote, Thank you GUSGUS for giving me that insight

You and your wisdom

Originally Posted by Gusgus

that was for you pops LOL senility is kickin in huh

Baldy · 11-10-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Gusgus

Curts post are getting almost as hard a Rippins to understand

Gusgus · 11-10-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by smoothytaggert

that was for you pops LOL senility is kickin in huh

I guess I am a bit shocked.

Got to sit and contemplate my navel over anyone taking my "woodsy" rhetoric as intelligent.

But thank you none the less.

I believe a happy life is about avoiding hate, aiming for love and fearing neither.


10-29-2009, 08:03 AM	#1
smoothytaggert Zone Head Joined: May 2006 From: lively Hagadone area I Ride: I ride to get lost and I never fail at that	motorcycle accident last night http://www.kxly.com/news/21458560/detail.html frickin season isn't over yet... I don't get it __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 08:06 AM	#2
blueline15 Streetfighter Joined: Aug 2008 From: Kennewick, WA I Ride: 06 SV650S	that sucks i feel bad for his family that wont have him around for the holidays this year __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 08:11 AM	#3
Avboden MotoGP Contender Joined: Oct 2007 From: Pullman/Spokane, Wa I Ride: 2007 BMW F800S	Really shitty :-( __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 09:16 AM	#4
crazylady Crumbcatcher Joined: Oct 2004 From: Spokane, WA (Northside) I Ride: 2003 Suzuki SV 1000s & 2006 Honda Goldwing	Rip __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 10:47 AM	#5
blarson Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 From: Portland, OR	suxor. When I hear "loss of control" I really wonder what actually happened. Did the car pull out in front of him and he lost it on the brakes? Was he being too aggressive through a corner and layed it down? etc. Too bad we don't have good news outlets. We can't bring back the dead so lets at least learn something from tragedies like these. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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10-29-2009, 11:11 AM	#6
strangerin Superbiker Joined: Jul 2005 From: spokane I Ride: other peoples when they let me, working on Honda VF750	^^^^^ going to guess either KXLY updated article or blar didn't read down. Ghost Rider-speeding-lost control-crossed center line-slid into oncoming car. Sometimes it is preventable and it's Not fault of a cage. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 11:41 AM	#7
Boosoccer Pit Crew Joined: May 2005 From: Spokane I Ride: '05 SV650S	either way it was another tragic loss. just another reminder that you never know what can happen. ride safe __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 02:58 PM	#8
DoubleD Superbiker Joined: Mar 2007 From: Greenacres Washington I Ride: 1991 Honda CBR1000f	Rip __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 03:35 PM	#9
spolic Ducati Pilot Joined: Oct 2004 From: Spokane Washington I Ride: from the land of the ice and snow	How about the poor person who was in the car....doing nothing wrong. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-29-2009, 03:45 PM	#10
Blues Brothers MotoGP Contender Joined: May 2005 From: Spokane I Ride: 2003 Illusion Blue Wing, 2006 Wing with MUSIC & 2006 Custom ZX14	Sad news... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-30-2009, 07:44 AM	#11
ICEMANFTR berettagtz117 Joined: May 2006 From: Spokane, WA I Ride: K71K,K8six	R.i.p __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-30-2009, 04:55 PM	#12
Paul Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2006 From: Spokane, Wa I Ride: 2006 ZX-6R	R.i.p __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-31-2009, 07:56 AM	#13
JONNY ROCKET Pit Crew Joined: Apr 2007 From: SOMEWHERE SOUTH I Ride: 2008 CBR 1000RR	*r.i.p.* __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-31-2009, 09:57 AM	#14
Wild Angel Superbiker Joined: Aug 2008 From: Spokane, WA I Ride: 07 500R Ninja	Karma on this one I hear on the news this Ghost Rider was a Murder that spent some time in prison. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-01-2009, 12:05 PM	#15
Elwood Training Wheels Joined: Dec 2005 From: Spokant I Ride: '02 Triumph Speed Triple, '94 H-D Fat Boy, '69 Bultaco Pursang	Wild Angle is right on, crimnal dead, he won't hurt anyone else, won't be selling drugs to your kids, etc. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-01-2009, 12:24 PM	#16
mustang1 WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jun 2008 From: olympia washington I Ride: hayabusa	live to ride, ride TO live. R.I.P. he'll answer to the big man now. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-01-2009, 03:37 PM	#18
Dr E WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Oct 2008 From: Dry Shiddies I Ride: 2008 Hayabusa, 2005 Hayabusa, 2000 GSXR 750 Track Bike	As is with all deaths... there are many victims. My prayers go out to everyone effected by this. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-01-2009, 07:08 PM	#19
Elwood Training Wheels Joined: Dec 2005 From: Spokant I Ride: '02 Triumph Speed Triple, '94 H-D Fat Boy, '69 Bultaco Pursang	Gusgus, Read the newpaper article then google they guys name, ex-con, prison time, read about the Ghost Riders also. Not he kind of people you want next door or even to hang with. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-01-2009, 07:36 PM	#20
Gusgus MotoGP Champion Joined: Dec 2008 From: VanHooter, Wa Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: Valkyrie/R1150GS Adventure	What a fitting ending! If this is the same slimeball who died, I couldn't have predicted a better ending, except the poor family. Yet they will have a great story from now on. Here is the link! Thanks Elwood. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-01-2009, 10:48 PM	#21
gsxrinspokane Training Wheels Joined: Feb 2006 From: spokane I Ride: gsxr 750, TL1000R,cbr f2	eye for an eye. looks like he got what he deserved __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-02-2009, 01:27 PM	#22
hOOzRauB Newbie Joined: Sep 2008 From: Pullman, WA I Ride: on the back of a turtle	Ghost Riders MC practicing drive-by's on bikes. Hmm... http://www.ghostridersnation.com/html/drive_by.html __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 11:08 AM	#24
strangerin Superbiker Joined: Jul 2005 From: spokane I Ride: other peoples when they let me, working on Honda VF750	looks like riding to Left of line is just another day in life... http://picasaweb.google.com/omcgrmc/...62103426358738 here's pic from game- at least u don't have to ride HD to belong or maybe that's just "friend" http://picasaweb.google.com/Lightnin...20523112008834 __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 01:43 PM	#25
smoothytaggert Zone Head Joined: May 2006 From: lively Hagadone area I Ride: I ride to get lost and I never fail at that	I wannab12 Haven't we all done things that we regret though... I still ride over the other line... I've been known on numerous occasions to even hit the shoulder with a vigorous nature as well. The way things change in our daily lives... the rumble strips are reminiscent of a vibrator for me __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by smoothytaggert; 11-03-2009 at 01:46 PM..


11-03-2009, 08:51 PM	#28
smoothytaggert Zone Head Joined: May 2006 From: lively Hagadone area I Ride: I ride to get lost and I never fail at that	^^^ Farmers do have rock salt in thier guns as well G-MA ^^^ i's no differnt ten ben shut for traspasssin in yer back yerd maybe they were just showing the community what it takes to be SAFE __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 09:36 PM	#29
rowlex MotoGP Contender Joined: Apr 2006 From: everett I Ride: 01 929RR	O those co2 powered BB guns hurt. buddy of mine still has a BB in his gut. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-08-2009, 01:31 AM	#30
oli Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 From: Spokane, WA I Ride: 2008 SV650SF	wow __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-08-2009, 04:09 PM	#31
Listof7 Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 From: Spokane	First off this rider was a NW Born NW Bred Ghost Rider, which is not the same as the clubs being referenced to in the previous posts. There seems to be several clubs with similar names mentioned in this thread. You might say it shows how mixed & in accurate info found online is often passed off half cocked as total truth. I need to air somethings. Here's what really bugs me about so many righteous people, with a few TIDBITS of one sided info, some (not all) people have passed judgment and even gone so far as to say Wayne deserved to died because he killed a few men. Well, you've said yourself that some people deserve to die, so could it be that those men Wayne killed, lived the 1% life and died by their own rules, while NO innocent parties where involved. I can tell you he did kill a few people and they seemed to have it coming, although it did still trouble him at times. If you knew the true situations though, you would "pray" to have a man like Wayne on your side to SAVE YOUR LIFE = even if that meant he'd have to serve time in prison to SAVE YOUR LIFE, which was without a doubt what happened in one of the cases. Live by the sword, die by the sword. He never bragged, didn't even like to talk about it, but he did what had to be done, I for one, respect that and hope I can measure up if ever the need be. Wayne was a good man, and unless you walked in his shoes or at least on a similar path, you have no valid input. He was a fiercely loyal man, and somebody you'd be honored & grateful to have around. ALSO, where all the drug dealer B.S. came from, I don't know, but it's false, it's more of the righteous passing judgment based on little knowledge, Hollywood magic and limited experiences. He wasn't a drug dealer, he served his time and was trying his best to keep and enjoy his freedom with his one true love. You can bash me, call me a liar, but that's a fact. Now here's some more facts, this man was a military vet, in his later years he counseled youth groups about what can happen if you make certain choices, and even though he killed when he had to (mutual combatant situations), he was loved by nearly everyone who knew him, he didn't brag or boost, he worked leather for a living, he left behind a widow - the woman he loved and the woman who loved him as deeply as could ever be possible. AND after riding over 30 years this was his ONE & ONLY serious accident -- that's not a rider who doesn't have control of his scooter, Wayne rode coast to coast and top to bottom of this great country many times & after more miles than anyone could count & 30+ YEARS accident free, I'd say he qualifies as a MASTER rider, not a dare devil who was "asking for it" Sure he cut loose now and then when it was safe and clear, but he was a skilled rider. For those who wonder what really might have happened, wonder how they can try to avoid an accident like this... we doubt Wayne was passing, it may have appeared that way, but it wasn't his style, not in that situation. Wayne was testing a vibration in his front end, it's possible a parts failure lead to a loss of control. There's also a possibility of heart/health issues, but that will be told by the autopsy. I may post when we know for sure, but if I don't, I wanted to make it clear that the chances Wayne was being a hot shot are VERY SLIM, this was almost certainly caused by other factors which resulted in loss of control. These are the facts from someone who knows, not watered down judgments. AND I'll say this clearly, Wayne won me over, I met him with a preconceived idea of who he was and I didn't want to like him, but god dam it, he was a hell of a good guy to be around and to have around! And if you knew him and he liked you, you'd have liked him too. He was true to his ideals and lived his life on his terms, who of us can say the same. As for the car he hit, no fault there, I wish the kid hadn't been riding. I have wondered if a different reaction, could the final out come might have been changed? Say, was it possible the car could have run onto the shoulder, instead of stopping in the middle of his lane? BUT it is what it is, and I'm not blaming the car's driver, it was surely over quick and the driver did what he thought best, I can't say I'd do any better. Hind sights always perfect. I only mention hitting the shoulder as a possible thought should anyone else ever be in this situation. Spook, I know you passed over the divide EXACTLY how you wanted to, wind in your hair sitting on a Harley with the yellow lines going by -- NOW THAT'S KARMA!!! Ride On Spook. We all just wish you'd have waited a few more years. I wish I had more time to learn from you, dam it, you sure could tell a hell of story, I was sure trying to pick your brain on that!! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Listof7; 11-08-2009 at 04:12 PM..


11-08-2009, 05:07 PM	#33
brantdw Newbie Joined: Aug 2009 From: Beaverton Oregon I Ride: Fz1	Welcome to the internet. Everyone elaborates the stories. In reality everyone is special and has a place in this world. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. In reality he was another brother bike rider that died a needless death. Bike riding is just dangerous in its own right. To see people die is the worst. I vote we drop this thread, honor a downed rider and move on. Thanks for the posting Listof7. RIP rider. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-10-2009, 12:12 PM	#36
smoothytaggert Zone Head Joined: May 2006 From: lively Hagadone area I Ride: I ride to get lost and I never fail at that	^^ ^^ on I was just posting about the accident. Then someone had to do some research on it and slander the guy regardless of what his background, he was a rider. Not my brother by riding (I only know of a couple I could say that to -even then it'd be weird). As for the 'group' he belonged to, wow, I understand the reason I ride, and for some odd reason it doesn't fit into that genre of folk. Yes we all know that there are those that ARE definitely like this, but it's not my forte. For the gentleman to feel like the guy's memory was backed into a corner, I'm sorry for bringing light to another downed rider. I do however remember one thing my pops told me as a kid and young adult(like last year or so ago) You are perceived (if you choose to be) by the people you hang out with, so choose wisely my friend, Choose WISELY. On a sidenote, Thank you GUSGUS for giving me that insight You and your wisdom __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by smoothytaggert; 11-10-2009 at 12:18 PM..

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