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| ted sux | Trust me, the feeling's mutual. Meet me in person, I'm much more manageable, but I simply can't stand people who have no idea what they're talking about and/or people who have no common sense. It does seem like my interaction here has become more and more of altercations than conversation - but that's because there are alot of idiots here. |
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| Track School Dazed ![]() Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can | ![]()
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| Superbiker Joined: Jul 2007 From: Spokane Valley, WA I Ride: 2007 Dyna Low 96" | I don't buy a bunch of motorcycle gear. While I was looking to buy a bike, I was 7,000 miles away from home, so all I had was the internet. When I was home on leave I went to Shumate on Trent. The guys were pretty cool and let me throw a leg over a bunch of bikes to see what fit/felt right. I had pretty much decied on a sportster (starter harley), but was open to suggestion. I checked craigslist for used low mileage bikes and found that a used bike was almost the same price as a new. I ended up witha killer deal from Owen's in Yakima - below invoice since it was the last '06 they had and wanted the floor space for another '07. Had Shumate made me the same deal, I would have prefered to have bought locally. I've bought a bunch of chrome doo-dads from them and oil and filters. Plus t-shirts for my daughter. I bought my second helmet from Helmet Outlet USA in Hayden. I bought my jacket from an HD shop in PA - it was on thier website and price was impossible to beat since it was a closeout. I bought my ATV from Chet's Honda in Quincy after spending a weekend hitting every shop in Spokane-CDA. Rob beat the best quote from every shop by at least $500. Retail, but no freight or setup charges. Yeah, it cost me $50 in gas to go get it, but counting that, I still saved over $500. I've also bought some odds and ends at cycle gear - oil and some sticker's for my daughters trike. Sporting goods - REI, White Elephant, Sportsman's, Black Sheep, Cabela's, Sharp Shooting, Daves, NW Pawn 7 Collector Arms, All American Arms - just depends who has what I'm looking for. What I'm trying to say is that I prefer to shop locally and where my $$ will get me the most. |
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| ted sux | I never excluded myself - idiocy comes standard |
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| ted sux | You would know, you ballchinnian |
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| Superbiker Joined: Sep 2005 From: SPokizzle I Ride: 98 CBR F3 7 stars edition ;) | That statment makes no sense....There are a few people that are site sponsers that don't even own a business or sale anything...you aren't a site sponser b/c you don't wanna be one or rather just havn't the money to do so...nothing wrong with that, but don't use the excuse you just did. |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Jul 2006 From: Cheney, WA I Ride: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom | The economic stuff distracted me so much I didn't read the rest of the postings, but here's my two cents. In the '80s and earlier it was one thing to buy from the local stores over national chains, now it doesn't matter. There is no longer any such thing as a "local" economy. Everything is a national economy...ie economic stimulus. If this wasn't the case than $600+ checks would only be sent to local markets instead of the majority of the hard working tax payers in the country. As for Wal-Mart being bad for business...bullsh*t. Look at the mom and pop shops complaining, Wal-Mart doesn't sell antiques, it's not going to hurt their shop, it will help by bringing more business to the area. More business to the area means more jobs, more jobs means more money. As for the topic of this post, I get a majority of my gear from DennisKirk.com and meancycles.com...what i don't get off e-bay of course. Keeping national economy in mind both sites are based inside the US. When I buy off e-bay it is all in-country merchandise. I did a job on a Goldwing last summer that through Westside would have cost me close to $400 for parts and most of which was going to be ordered and I would have had to wait a week. Dennis Kirk was $200 and I had it in three days. Happy customer, fast turnaround. I got my Avon tires for my V-Star from Dennis Kirk a lot cheaper as well. I figured the cost and they ran me less than the stock crappy Bridgestones would have through a dealer. Last edited by James Nethery; 03-17-2008 at 11:05 PM.. |
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| ted sux | ![]() I really didn't mean to be as offensive as how I sounded (looking at my previous posts). On the other hand, it really infuriates me when people don't stop to think about their actions - and even moreso when they make it a pitty party about themselves. I was a poor college student for a couple years, hated not having money to spend, but when I did, it was somewhere I valued, and they valued me. I just don't accept "I can't afford retail pricing" as an excuse - you can get a helmet at retail for $79.99 that's decent, and a jacket for about the same. No, it won't be nice stuff, but it will save you in an accident, and you didn't put your money in another part of the country, or worse yet out of the country. Once again, didn't mean to be hurtful, but can't stand excuses, especially shitty ones. |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Jul 2006 From: Cheney, WA I Ride: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom | I want to first set straight that I wasn't using the antiques store as a generalization of the mom and pop stores, just an example. The one merchant who was on the news over the South Hill was an independent antique furniture dealer. As for the jobs wal-mart creates, 1) Any job is better than no job. I was just unemployed for three months and it sucks 2) Not all laborers building the stores are foreigners. Two cheney companies did excavation and welding on the Airway Heights store. I totally agree with the lower wages and the like, but still it's better than no job. Also, now that that's off my chest, well said Ted in your last post, I think what you were originally trying to say came out clear. Branding is the problem with motorcycle gear. One of the guys I work with was talking about being willing to spend $400 on a textile jacket because it says Icon on it. I don't think I spent that much on all of my gear. |
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| Zone Head Joined: Sep 2007 From: Spokane Valley, Washington I Ride: with 1% of the 99%'rs | First time commenting here, usually I just read the forums, but this time I just thought I would add my two cents. I like the idea of spending money locally because I like the feeling of being a "regular" whether at a restaraunt, drinking establishment, or a shop where I buy tools, golf stuff and merchandise. I like to tip well and take care of the people that take care of me. I do this for me, it makes me feel better and it brings a great deal of satisfaction when people remember who I am and make sure I am tended to. There was a time like all of us when I was broke as a joke and I still maintained the same philosiphy. Yes, I have bought things online, but to me, I felt like a number. It is nice to buy something, talk to a real person, and get advice that you cant get online. As far as any job being better than no job, I have to disagree. It is impossible to send kids to daycare and work a low paying gig and have money left over for things like food and utilities. The government will not help as much because they see you have a job. I feel really bad about the way working single mothers get treated these days, working all the time, raising kids, not enough money or time for the kids. We should take better care of them, after all, they are bringing up the future of this country, or should we farm that job out also? Just one man's opinion, it's worth what you paid for it. |
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| ted sux | ![]()
You're probably right about the branding thing. I am a proponent of getting less, good gear (get only what you need, but make sure it lasts). If this isn't an option, so be it. The other primary argument I have is the "I can't afford regular pricing on this stuff." You have one of two reasonable options then: A.) Get something different, or B.) Realize motorcycling is a luxury and it's not your right to do it. If you can't afford your gear, you can't afford to ride. | |
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| suzukigixxer ![]() Joined: Feb 2007 From: everett washington I Ride: gsxr750/Aprilia rsv 1000/gsf1200s bandit | to bad your now on the westside i jest bought a icon moto jacket priced at $450 on close out for $225 at lynnwood motoplex |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Feb 2008 From: Spokane I Ride: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 2008 | Todd at Cyclegear!!! He has given us very resonable prices on everything we have bought. We ordered a Icon Jacket from him and still got a better price than RMC could get us in Seattle!!! It is hard to put a price on what covers your body!!! |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Mar 2008 From: Spokane Valley, Wa I Ride: 03 ZX6RR, 85 XT350, 89 YZ125, your mom | I can see where Ted is coming from. I worked retail at an electronics store for 7 years. I would deal with customers who would come in, pick my brain, and leave and purchase online. It didn't really bother me. I did my job of educating people, and I enjoyed that aspect of my job. The chain has since went under. Had their prices not been overly high, and more in-line with most other national retail chains, and the company had not been so poorly managed, they would probably still be around. I guess I can see both sides of the argument. I will purchase locally as much as I can. I cannot, however, justify paying an exorbitantly high price for a local product over a mail-ordered product. I make a decent wage, and will always pay more for a better product. I never buy the cheapest of anything. I'm just saying there is a point when some local shops ask a ridiculously high amount for a product, particularly here in the Spokane area. I have no problem paying more for overhead and such, but even I have my limits. Just my $0.02. |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Jan 2008 From: Seattle WA I Ride: a green turtle | I like to buy online simply because it is much cheaper. The only problem I have is sizing concerns. Luckily I have been pretty lucky so far. When shopping online make sure you go to the manufacturer's website to see a sizing chart. You can also try it on at a local store, if they carry it of course. www.ironpony.com -really really low prices! -mostly closeouts, so size availability and selection isn't great -usually has deals like, free shipping for over $100 www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ -they have everything -pretty good prices -lots of reviews on products www.newenough.com -low prices -they got a great return policy -I've heard only good reviews of these guys -so so selection www.sportbikedude.com -great deal on Teknic stuff right now -I never bought from them and I never heard of them, just found them on the internet....so be careful Last edited by hellagrant; 04-01-2008 at 02:13 PM.. |
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| berettagtz117 ![]() Joined: May 2006 From: Spokane, WA I Ride: K71K,K8six | Ted dont you ever shut the fuck up? Your not even a forum contributor so you dont have the right to open your mouth around here about giving back to community.. Fuck spokane and there markups. I buy all my gear @ new enough in the closeout section because yes Im a cheap as fucker that makes good money and uses it towards important shit like my house, retirement, toys ect.. I try not to get into this shit anymore, but damn you just keep on rambling about nothing that pertains to putting money in your bank, you still get paid whether or not the store sells all there marked up shit, just as long as you make your sales. Just leave it alone and let it be at peace. |
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| berettagtz117 ![]() Joined: May 2006 From: Spokane, WA I Ride: K71K,K8six | it wasnt dead. I paid the cost to be the motha fuckin boss :-) |
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| ted sux | ![]()
I won't get into the "Forum Contributor" thing - it's a whole different deal. How I make my money has nothing to do with my argument, all you proven is that while you may be able to read, you can't comprehend rational discussion. | |
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| Endorsed Joined: Nov 2007 From: Spokanistan I Ride: 05 Ducati S2R, 06 R6, 04 CRF50, 71 BMW 75/5 | I'm kindof a bastard with this: 1.) Go to dealerships and try stuff on, write down the size and model you dig. 2.) Go to ebay, craigslist, and other forums like r6-forum and the ninja forum to find good used gear deals. 3.) rock out with the savings. |
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| Track School Dazed ![]() Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can | I buy from 'Both'. 'IF' THE local shop stocks it. At a price near what I can buy it on line and they usually do, then I buy from them. I special order from them as well, if its something out of the norm. If its HARD parts O.E.M., then I shop. I then ask the dealer to match the price, or get close. I dont expect anyone to 'give away the store'. But I do expect fair honest prices. |
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| Track School Dazed ![]() Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can | ![]()
SWITCH the Freak'in tags! I totally agree if an asshat takes up your effort, your time, your skills (you get trained to fit clothing and helmets), then buy's from elsewhere they deserve what they get. Not to mention the huge amount of money a buisness spends to stock and maintain Gear. | |
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| Newbie Joined: Sep 2008 From: Pullman, WA I Ride: on the back of a turtle | ![]()
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