beansbaxter

Check out these screenshots for the new World Superbike 2009 video game:























Source: IGN

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2nd screencap, rider #3. Check out his head position. Looking for raindrops?

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MichelinMan

That's hilarious.


Looks like it's a well designed game from a graphics standpoint. I wonder how the actual gameplay is?

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koorbloh

interesting discrepancy between the shots for media (most of the "in game" shots) and the shot with the HUD showing....


some nice rendering effects in the higher res shots, there's a few that I wish I knew how to do.

looks like a fun game



racing games have it easy....small levels allow more fidelity

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nocontrol74

Agreed. Gameplay seems to be the weak point of all motorcycle racing sims..

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mfrankpdx

Yeah no kidding, how do you trail brake with an on/off button?

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beansbaxter

Game Genie code 35038250825253297343

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koorbloh

analog sticks

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nocontrol74

I think what the developers have missed in these games is the lack of any tactile feedback, which is so much a part of racing/riding. They need to have other methods of getting this data to the user....

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Scabbs

looks like they will have damage if you crash.

so no more hitting the wall at 200mph and getting up and riding out with a shiny new bike.

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koorbloh

the hard part here is an interface to the user. the physics systems are usually sophisticated enough to at least pretend that they are faking what you want to see, however, the interface to the user is a controller, which may or may not have vibration, also visual and audio clues.

vibrations could be used for rpm, or bumps, or sliding, or suspension travel but when you really need all of these, and more, to get a good feel for it, you are limited by the controller. a visual interface is going to be clunky, and not provide the feed back you really want, and audio clues might work for sliding...but not much else...

how do you suggest that game studios provide suspension and tire feed back through such weak methods? you'll never be able to simulate these things with current controller designs.

Anyone remember force feedback joysticks and stuff? that was a fun system, but it never caught on, not sure why.


current consoles and controllers (and pc's too) will have a hard time with stuff like this due to output limitations.


and if you suggest bundling the software with some hardware...just remember how much your console cost, and the game, and now do you want to pay more for this hardware? you might, most won't.


trust me, this type of stuff really bugs me toooooo, but i don't see a way to do what you want

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nocontrol74

I agree you are limited to the capabilities of the hardware, and that is why these games have all had such a tough time recreating the actual experience of riding. I don't know if it is possible to solve for without expense additional hardware.

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1crazygsxr

been playing sbk since it came out....... some of my buddies and myself like it more the moto gp...... but that is only out opinion........ great graphic and sound..... total simulation though is pretty hard..........

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Mic

It's amazing to mention bundling of hardware.

Several years ago, there was a game "Steel Battalion" that did not do well because of the required bundled hardware. The game, if I remember correctly, was 200 bucks, because of the "Mech Cockpit" that came with it.



This was a Single Player Game, for the Xbox. It had a "Live or Die" system. You die, you lost everything. It was a rather interesting game, and as much as I really wanted to buy it, I could not bring myself to spend the money. And neither could anyone else.

Why it failed was written up in a article a couple years back with the introduction of the new Rock Band set that came out. Here was another game going on the market for 200 bucks. A lot looked at it, like it would fail, because of years past and Steel Battalion. But it was a hit.

The main reason, came down to value of play.

In Steel Battalion, you had a set of hardware, specific for a single game, that was single player. It's hard to justify, even in good economy's, to spend that kind of money on something you sit alone playing.

With Party Games though, it makes it much easier. You are spending roughly 50 dollars a person to enjoy, instead of 200 dollars a person.

One day I think we'll start to see some sorts of hardware coming back out to entertain the masses, but I don't see it happening any time soon on a mass market idea. To replicate the motions and feel would be too costly. Let alone, the overall size of the hardware. Imagine a full scale race replica in your living room to play a race game =)

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koorbloh

aye, too bad racing isn't so much of a party game

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koorbloh

it's not just riding, it's something all game devs struggle with in every genre. the controllers are great for general gameplay, but for advanced stuff, especially tactile feedback, it's hard to do, let alone get right.

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shakazulu12

LOL at Biaggi staring up, is he praying to win a race now?

I need to get the 08 version, its only 30 bucks. This new one looks like they have fixed a lot of the graphics issues though.

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Jalharad

looks like a sweet ass game....now you got me wanting to play it.....just need to spend 200-300 bucks to get a PS3, and 30 bucks for the game!

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ninjaofdoom

I still like Tourist Trophy the best.

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mnewell

Inconsistency Error:

That's Haga's lid from last year. His lid this year is a little different.

Carry on.

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DJ Nathan V

Those two Kawis in the back are gonna have issues trying to race without swingarms.

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nocontrol74

That's a new weight saving measure. The zero sided swing arm. Makes tire changes incredibly fast too...

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mnewell

They are Kawasakis. That's the least of their problems...

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Nefarious

Not that I'm offended by your ignorance, but have you actually played SBK 08 or Moto GP 08?

There is no "On/Off" button for braking or throttle unless you choose there to be. The triggers or stick on Xbox 360 works wonders.

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