PNW Riders

MMAGuy1970 · 07-01-2009, 08:09 AM

'05 SV650n.... not enough HP to talk about but enough to be competitive in the corners.

RickTheRedNinja · 07-01-2009, 08:17 AM

Stella
2006 ZX14

169.5 HP @ Lynnwood CycleBarn Dyno shootout without the ramair.
Would love to see different numbers on different dynos.

PeteN95 · 07-01-2009, 09:23 AM

'03 SV1000 naked, cans and airbox mods, 104.5 on Ricci's dyno.

PeteN95 · 07-01-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by xbswede

2008 Buell 1125R
D&D slip on
K&N Air Filter
Tuned with BDDFI-III
143.41 RWHP
82.38 TQ
Ran on a Dynojet 250

Yes, seems fair that the AMA is racing these against 600s?!

PeteN95 · 07-01-2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by D_Rail

But its still an american car..('05 GTO) It needs the hp to push the 2 solid tons of weight!

Actually it's Australian, originally the Holden Monaro.

D_Rail · 07-01-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by PeteN95

Actually it's Australian, originally the Holden Monaro.

Still has an American badge on it..

vagrant · 07-01-2009, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by PeteN95

Actually it's Australian, originally the Holden Monaro.

beat me to it.

gilberjj · 07-01-2009, 10:08 AM

Still lower then sticks....... dang....... time for some nitrous

AcXr50 · 07-01-2009, 10:17 AM

131whp

06 Gsxr 750 .
Jardine gp 1 exhaust
Rotella T semi syn oil.

raephell · 07-01-2009, 10:21 AM

07 gsxr 600
yosh slip on
pcIII

115hp speeddealer dyno street tune

Spec · 07-01-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kresto

2005 ZX6R
Green
New Ninja keyfob
Over 60 RWHP
Pump gas
Anodized valve stem caps

60hp? "new ninja keyfob"? "anodized valve stem caps"? lol, assuming this is a jokez?

PeteN95 · 07-01-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by D_Rail

Still has an American badge on it..

It's not the badge that makes it heavy, I can lift the back of a Chevy Sprint (Suzuki) !

r1inh20 · 07-02-2009, 03:53 AM

08' R1
163.8 hp on EDR's dyno
lots of mods

dragracer1951 · 07-02-2009, 05:23 AM

Dyno numbers are just a form of penis waving
Don't mean shit.
Tell me if your 115hp 600 can get by my 52hp tard in the twisties...

krautBurner · 07-02-2009, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by D_Rail

But its still an american car.. It needs the hp to push the 2 solid tons of weight!

almost

Originally Posted by PeteN95

Actually it's Australian, originally the Holden Monaro.

Originally Posted by D_Rail

Still has an American badge on it..

and it pushes that 2 tons down the road (or track) faster than most of the bikes here (with 1/10th the weight)

Originally Posted by dragracer1951

Dyno numbers are just a form of penis waving
Don't mean shit.
Tell me if your 115hp 600 can get by my 52hp tard in the twisties...

that's after waiting for your 52hp to get to the twisties (and waiting for your fuel stops every hour or so)

jeeperman · 07-02-2009, 06:54 AM

08 FZ1 with a few mods before tunning, 141.6 hp. Runs well with my tinkering but will pull more when tuned correctly.

theJrod · 07-02-2009, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by dragracer1951

Dyno numbers are just a form of penis waving
Don't mean shit.
Tell me if your 115hp 600 can get by my 52hp tard in the twisties...

If HP is so meaningless, why did you spend untold hundreds(thousands?) of dollars turning your 33hp tard into a 52hp tard?

AcXr50 · 07-02-2009, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

If HP is so meaningless, why did you spend untold hundreds(thousands?) of dollars turning your 33hp tard into a 52hp tard?

haha!

dragracer1951 · 07-02-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

If HP is so meaningless, why did you spend untold hundreds(thousands?) of dollars turning your 33hp tard into a 52hp tard?

Well...you got me there.
But I still contend that dyno numbers are just numbers.
The real issue is what you gained on the same dyno.
Most people use dyno numbers as bragging rights.

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 09:52 AM

[QUOTE=krautBurner;1764038

and it pushes that 2 tons down the road (or track) faster than most of the bikes here (with 1/10th the weight)

[/QUOTE] And by most of the bikes on here I assume you mean a Ninja 250, but that would still rock the shit out of any car through the corners.

Sticks n Stones · 07-02-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by krautBurner

502HP / 620TQat the rear wheels

2005 Pontiac GTO
LS2, 6sp, Cam, Full Exhaust, Tune, and a little 100 shot

Nice numbers! Though I'm thinking that "100 shot" is a bit conservative: with your mods you should be in the 360-370rwhp range without the juice. We need to get together, I've been wanting to run another GTO! Tired of mauling the Mustangs, 350 & 370Z's, Mazda

Originally Posted by D_Rail

But its still an american car.. It needs the hp to push the 2 solid tons of weight!

2 tons? not quite, try 3720 pounds for the GTO. You must be thinking of the new Challengers, Chargers, and 300C's (all are 4100 pounds or heavier). Even the new Camaro is heavier at 3850lbs. Want rice?
'05 GTO = 3720lbs Rated hp: 400 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/25
'07 Nissan 350Z = 3400lbs Rated hp:313 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/23
'09 Mazda RX8 = 3030lbs Rated hp: 232 EPA rated fuel economy: 16/22
Honda S2000 = 3050lbs Rated hp: 237 EPA rated fuel economy: 18/25
'08 WRX STI = 3395lbs Rated hp: 305 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/23
'08 Acura Type S= 3558lbs Rated hp: 286 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/26
Lexus IS-F = 3780lbs Rated hp: 416 EPA rated fuel economy: 16/23

and a topdog German car:
'09 BMW M3 = 3704lbs Rated hp: 420(really 450+) EPA: 14/20

Point is, name me a midsize Asian import that makes 400hp or more, weighs less, gets better mileage, and is faster than the GTO? How about just beating 3 of those 4 items? The IS-F is close on paper, though I easily beat one on I-5. There is a few from Europe, including the V8 BMW M3 that I included for reference.

theJrod · 07-02-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones

Point is, name me a midsize Asian import that makes 400hp or more, weighs less, gets better mileage, and is faster than the GTO? How about just beating 3 of those 4 items? The IS-F is close on paper, though I easily beat one on I-5. There is a few from Europe, including the V8 BMW M3 that I included for reference.

Every single car you named handles better that the goat. In fact, with exception of the C5-Z06/C6, America doesn't even make a car that handles worth a damn.

It's funny because your concept of "fast" involves a straight line, a couple timing lights, and ZERO turns. Let's look at Nürburgring times and THEN we'll determine what is faster.

theJrod · 07-02-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones

The IS-F is close on paper, though I easily beat one on I-5.

OMG

You beat some guy on I-5???!? You surely are more fastAR!!

PeteN95 · 07-02-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by krautBurner

and it pushes that 2 tons down the road (or track) faster than most of the bikes here (with 1/10th the weight)

I doubt it, what is your best lap time around PR? But D Rail is wrong, corner speed is not where bikes beat cars, it's on acceleration and a straighter line though turns because they are so much narrower. The GTO would beat most bikes on a skid pad because of greater contact patch, if someone where wacky enough to try it on a bike, but on a road course (with long straights) or strip, most powerful sport bikes would win.

gilberjj · 07-02-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones

2 tons? not quite, try 3720 pounds for the GTO. You must be thinking of the new Challengers, Chargers, and 300C's (all are 4100 pounds or heavier). Even the new Camaro is heavier at 3850lbs. Want rice?
'05 GTO = 3720lbs Rated hp: 400 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/25
'07 Nissan 350Z = 3400lbs Rated hp:313 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/23
'09 Mazda RX8 = 3030lbs Rated hp: 232 EPA rated fuel economy: 16/22
Honda S2000 = 3050lbs Rated hp: 237 EPA rated fuel economy: 18/25
'08 WRX STI = 3395lbs Rated hp: 305 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/23
'08 Acura Type S= 3558lbs Rated hp: 286 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/26
Lexus IS-F = 3780lbs Rated hp: 416 EPA rated fuel economy: 16/23

and a topdog German car:
'09 BMW M3 = 3704lbs Rated hp: 420(really 450+) EPA: 14/20

Point is, name me a midsize Asian import that makes 400hp or more, weighs less, gets better mileage, and is faster than the GTO? How about just beating 3 of those 4 items? The IS-F is close on paper, though I easily beat one on I-5. There is a few from Europe, including the V8 BMW M3 that I included for reference.

You conveniently forgot evos, and stis. The could smoke your car stock for stock in a straight line, and it gets more embarrassing when you start modding. I've driven a 6.0 gto, and the torque was cool, but do me a favor. Go drive a STOCK evo IX. Those cars RIP! And we all know handling is not the gtos cup of tea, so we'll leave that out of the equation. Also, supras, and rx7s would take your cars as well, but they were a little more pricey.

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones

'05 GTO = 3720lbs Rated hp: 400 EPA rated fuel economy: 17/25

Point is, name me a midsize Asian import that makes 400hp or more, weighs less, gets better mileage, and is faster than the GTO?

Soooo pry a 280lb dude in there (which is usually the case), what do you get?

Here this should help... I'll wait..

http://www.math.com/students/calcula...urce/basic.htm

This doesn't weigh less, but it's WAY cooler! Faster than the GTO with 2 less pistons, and almost half the displacement.

gilberjj · 07-02-2009, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by D_Rail

Soooo pry a 280lb dude in there (which is usually the case), what do you get?

Here this should help... I'll wait..

http://www.math.com/students/calcula...urce/basic.htm

This doesn't weigh less, but it's WAY cooler!

r35s are dumb. They weigh too much!

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by gilberjj

You conveniently forgot evos, and stis. The could smoke your car stock for stock in a straight line, and it gets more embarrassing when you start modding. I've driven a 6.0 gto, and the torque was cool, but do me a favor. Go drive a STOCK evo IX. Those cars RIP! And we all know handling is not the gtos cup of tea, so we'll leave that out of the equation. Also, supras, and rx7s would take your cars as well, but they were a little more pricey.

Don't get me wrong, I love me some WRX, but those don't handle so great either! haha

theJrod · 07-02-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by gilberjj

r35s are dumb. They weigh too much!

Too much for what? For smoking Porsches and Ferraris all day long? Nope. It does that quite well.

gilberjj · 07-02-2009, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by D_Rail

Don't get me wrong, I love me some WRX, but those don't handle so great either! haha

The STi's are a little doggy compared to the evo, but their target market is for people who don't want a ragged car like the evo. The STi is far more refined. But who wants that when you can get an evo rs with roll-up windows, no ac, no power locks, no cd player, and no carpet in the trunk?

Originally Posted by theJrod

Too much for what? For smoking Porsches and Ferraris all day long? Nope. It does that quite well.

What ferraris can the r35 smoke? Also, still can't touch the c6 z06 around a track or straight line. If it weighed less, that would be a different story. Don't get me wrong, what nissan has done with a 2 ton car is incredible, but any way you slice it, it's still a 2 ton car.
Weight is the worst thing against performance. It increases brake pad and tire wear exponentially, it's more to turn, stop, and accelerate, and it still makes less power then the c6 z06.

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by gilberjj

What ferraris can the r35 smoke? Also, still can't touch the c6 z06 around a track or straight line. If it weighed less, that would be a different story. Don't get me wrong, what nissan has done with a 2 ton car is incredible, but any way you slice it, it's still a 2 ton car.
Weight is the worst thing against performance. It increases brake pad and tire wear exponentially, it's more to turn, stop, and accelerate, and it still makes less power then the c6 z06.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

The fact that a 90k car is even within 10 seconds of those Supercars is insane (ps - those cars don't weigh 2 tons!)... I think its got some go in it.

Funny, I don't see the GTO in there anywhere. :confused

theJrod · 07-02-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by gilberjj

What ferraris can the r35 smoke?

Uhm... all of them except the Enzo.

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by gilberjj

makes less power then the c6 z06.

pretty damn close for missing almost half the displacement!

erickb · 07-02-2009, 10:58 AM

My RS50 has 7hp when I put the Leo pipe on it, it hits 7.2hp

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by erickb

My RS50 has 7hp when I put the Leo pipe on it, it hits 7.2hp

Probably would still beat a GTO off the line!

gilberjj · 07-02-2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

Uhm... all of them except the Enzo.

touche...... news to me...

AcXr50 · 07-02-2009, 11:19 AM

this reminds me of
Got in a car crash today (video)

or what its turning into!

AMERICA SUCKS! btw

D_Rail · 07-02-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by AcXr50

this reminds me of
Got in a car crash today (video)

or what its turning into!

AMERICA SUCKS! btw

haha we were just talking about that! epic retardation..

Sticks n Stones · 07-02-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

Every single car you named handles better that the goat. In fact, with exception of the C5-Z06/C6, America doesn't even make a car that handles worth a damn.

It's funny because your concept of "fast" involves a straight line, a couple timing lights, and ZERO turns. Let's look at Nürburgring times and THEN we'll determine what is faster.

Actually, I can take you for a ride in my GTO. I cured the main handling and traction problem: I put street/strip stickies on it. World of difference! Matter of fact, 2 weeks ago I put a WRX into the dirt when he tried to keep with me through the twisty section at the end of Seattle Hill Rd. Luckily for him his AWD saved him from meeting the hill face, but he still ended up spun out. lol The car handles very well, thank you.

Why the hostility? Is this a handling thread and I missed it?? When it comes to cars, how great they handle is a friggin joke: without going to a track, only the most hardcore guys are ever going to tackle corners on the street. Leave the "Best handling car" junk for the Europeans. In America, in the real world, races are almost always straight lines. Period.

Originally Posted by theJrod

OMG

You beat some guy on I-5???!? You surely are more fastAR!!

Bite me: Express Lanes FTW! I've raced dozens of cars so far, from a stop, slow roll, and on the freeway, only losing to a modded Supra. Killed BAD 2 WRX's, and a STi (2009 model), and even barely took out a heavily modded WRX STi clone Forester. "Biggest turbo I could put on it" he told me, along with a massive intercooler hanging below his bumper. Went at it 4 times, including from a 15mph roll (he even got on it first, but spun his TIRES and I pulled him). Besides my brothers IROC and the aforementioned Supra, that Forester was the closest race I've had.

Originally Posted by PeteN95

I doubt it, what is your best lap time around PR? But D Rail is wrong, corner speed is not where bikes beat cars, it's on acceleration and a straighter line though turns because they are so much narrower. The GTO would beat most bikes on a skid pad because of greater contact patch, if someone where wacky enough to try it on a bike, but on a road course (with long straights) or strip, most powerful sport bikes would win.

Couldn't agree more.

Originally Posted by gilberjj

You conveniently forgot evos, and stis. The could smoke your car stock for stock in a straight line, and it gets more embarrassing when you start modding. I've driven a 6.0 gto, and the torque was cool, but do me a favor. Go drive a STOCK evo IX. Those cars RIP! And we all know handling is not the gtos cup of tea, so we'll leave that out of the equation. Also, supras, and rx7s would take your cars as well, but they were a little more pricey.

Read my above post.

Lynk · 07-02-2009, 11:46 AM

Sweet! Two pages of bike dynos!! ... waiiit, WTF?!?!

Who cares what someone's GTO makes? It's a car.


07-01-2009, 08:09 AM	#41
MMAGuy1970 Zone Head Joined: Apr 2007 From: Out of your mind I Ride: like it’s gonna rain tomorrow.	'05 SV650n.... not enough HP to talk about but enough to be competitive in the corners. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-01-2009, 08:17 AM	#42
RickTheRedNinja Streetfighter Joined: Aug 2008 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: The Fattest Ninja and a Widowmaker	Stella 2006 ZX14 169.5 HP @ Lynnwood CycleBarn Dyno shootout without the ramair. Would love to see different numbers on different dynos. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-01-2009, 09:23 AM	#43
PeteN95 Superbiker Joined: Jan 2008 From: Muk, WA I Ride: Suzuki SV1000N, XR650R, CRF450R	'03 SV1000 naked, cans and airbox mods, 104.5 on Ricci's dyno. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-01-2009, 10:08 AM	#48
gilberjj Zone Head Joined: Feb 2008 From: Olympia, WA I Ride: Kawasaki zx14	Still lower then sticks....... dang....... time for some nitrous __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


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AcXr50 Zone Head Joined: Jul 2008 From: Des Moines I Ride: k7 gIxX 1k	131whp 06 Gsxr 750 . Jardine gp 1 exhaust Rotella T semi syn oil. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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07-01-2009, 10:21 AM	#50
raephell Pit Crew Joined: Mar 2008 From: Seattle I Ride: Suzuki GSX-R600K7	07 gsxr 600 yosh slip on pcIII 115hp speeddealer dyno street tune __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 03:53 AM	#53
r1inh20 Training Wheels Joined: May 2007 From: beaverton oregon	08' R1 163.8 hp on EDR's dyno lots of mods __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 05:23 AM	#54
dragracer1951 MotoGP Champion Joined: Sep 2005 From: Bremerton I Ride: 03 Are See fiddy one, 05 DRZ400SM, 95 FZR1040, 69 Combat Commando Roadster, 73 Commando Interstate, 67 BSA B44, 71 BSA B50	Dyno numbers are just a form of penis waving Don't mean shit. Tell me if your 115hp 600 can get by my 52hp tard in the twisties... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 06:54 AM	#56
jeeperman Zone Head Joined: May 2008 From: Brier, Washington I Ride: 08' Yamaha Fz1	08 FZ1 with a few mods before tunning, 141.6 hp. Runs well with my tinkering but will pull more when tuned correctly. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 09:52 AM	#60
D_Rail Beast to be Unleashed Joined: Sep 2005 From: Marysville, WA I Ride: 2006 Suzuki GSX-R 750	[QUOTE=krautBurner;1764038 and it pushes that 2 tons down the road (or track) faster than most of the bikes here (with 1/10th the weight) [/QUOTE] And by most of the bikes on here I assume you mean a Ninja 250, but that would still rock the shit out of any car through the corners. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 10:58 AM	#74
erickb Mr. PNW Riders 2007 Joined: Jun 2005 From: classified Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: without gear	My RS50 has 7hp when I put the Leo pipe on it, it hits 7.2hp __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 11:19 AM	#77
AcXr50 Zone Head Joined: Jul 2008 From: Des Moines I Ride: k7 gIxX 1k	this reminds me of Got in a car crash today (video) or what its turning into! AMERICA SUCKS! btw __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 11:46 AM	#80
Lynk Superbiker Joined: Dec 2005 From: Bellevue, WA I Ride: a 2006 H-D XL1200C, 2005 Suzuki DRZ-400SM, 1997 Kawa Ninja 500R, and 2003 Yamaha YZF-R6 (racebike).	Sweet! Two pages of bike dynos!! ... waiiit, WTF?!?! Who cares what someone's GTO makes? It's a car. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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