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JTurkish · 07-07-2009, 02:20 PM

ummmm......w/ my sv if i punch it hard my toosh scoots back and gets stopped by the passenger seat...........what'll happen on ur machine

OOk · 07-07-2009, 02:55 PM

Your bike came with a subframe and a rear fender from the factory, which you chopped off, so yes, you need a hugger.

Oly ZX · 07-07-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by VFRtard

Your bike screams give me a ticket please...

, and I'm not trying to pic on you but with the extra attention we get anyways I agree with the above.

I'd say that 80% of us with our mods aren't "by the book" or per the statutes and codes federal or otherwise.

zedx9 · 07-07-2009, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Oly ZX

, and I'm not trying to pic on you but with the extra attention we get anyways I agree with the above.

I'd say that 80% of us with our mods aren't "by the book" or per the statutes and codes federal or otherwise.

I'm with Oly here. Kudo's on the personal expression. You will get all of the opinions you need from law enforcement and you may even pay for it. As long as you are okay with attracting thier attention, go for it. I do like the look of the super trapp or whatever silencer you have on the collector.

midvalleysuperbiker · 07-07-2009, 03:41 PM

Looks cool, a hugger will not detract from the looks.

Don't ride it in Salem, officer Timmy will have you, full cavity search and maybe a chance to spend the night with BUBA.

james1300 · 07-07-2009, 04:19 PM

I cant believe you butcherd that sweet lil Honda into that mess.
You deserve every harassing stop and ticket you get. You have earned them.

Runout · 07-07-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Hawker

I'd want a hugger/fender on there to keep shit off of of my back....

Look out for roadkill!

Nefarious · 07-07-2009, 04:28 PM

First off, I dig your look ALOT more then I dig that horrible Eurotrash look where they turn the tail straight up. Personally? I'd want a hugger on there for the looks... and.. so I don't get run down by some guy after I put a rock through his window, or in the back of my head...

I'm pretty sure however that XLTman hit the nail on the head with 46.37.500

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.500

Seriously though guy if you're going to go custom you should expect mixed reviews, who gives a crap what anyone thinks as long as you dig it.

easy · 07-07-2009, 04:53 PM

Seems like everyone is getting hung up on the def of a motor vehicle..RCW 46.04.320 Motor Vehicle - Defined, which applies to cars and trucks. RCW 46.04.330 Motorcycle - Defined..provides the description for motorcycles..the two have separate legal definitions and by definition, a motorcycle is not a motor vehicle. The RCW for Mudflaps does not apply to motorcycles or motor driven cycles. It applies to Motor Vehicles. Somebody else said they got a handout from WSP that lists RCW's that apply to motorcycles that includes this one. If this is true, it's wrong. RCW chapter 46.37.---is the one that references motorcycles and while I havn't read every RCW in this subsection, a quick glance reveals that there doesn't appear to even be a requirement for motorcycles to have fenders at all..or a front brake or turn signals for that matter...easy

And tell your co-workers to worry about their day job before they start spouting off about their hobby..

jeremy · 07-07-2009, 07:28 PM

bike looks sweet. i hate it when streetfighters have full sized tails, just looks wrong. i'd get a hugger cause i think it would look awesome, but i wouldn't think that would be the first thing a cop would write you up for.

xltman8 · 07-07-2009, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by easy

Seems like everyone is getting hung up on the def of a motor vehicle..RCW 46.04.320 Motor Vehicle - Defined, which applies to cars and trucks. RCW 46.04.330 Motorcycle - Defined..provides the description for motorcycles..the two have separate legal definitions and by definition, a motorcycle is not a motor vehicle. The RCW for Mudflaps does not apply to motorcycles or motor driven cycles. It applies to Motor Vehicles. Somebody else said they got a handout from WSP that lists RCW's that apply to motorcycles that includes this one. If this is true, it's wrong. RCW chapter 46.37.---is the one that references motorcycles and while I havn't read every RCW in this subsection, a quick glance reveals that there doesn't appear to even be a requirement for motorcycles to have fenders at all..or a front brake or turn signals for that matter...easy

And tell your co-workers to worry about their day job before they start spouting off about their hobby..

Hey easy,

Next time you see a LEO city/county/state whatever ask them:

Is my "MOTOR-CYCLE" not considered a MOTOR VEHICLE? Does it not have a motor? Is it not a vehicle?? You are trying to split hairs here......but I was trying to save someone from getting railed everytime he rides his scoot. I will find it somewhere cause I have read it once...ANY REMOVAL OF SAFETY EQUIPMENT VIOLATES A FEDERAL STATUTE. It is not just a state issue it is FEDERAL.... GO ASK A LEO.

Ramathorn · 07-07-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by zedx9

I'm with Oly here. Kudo's on the personal expression. You will get all of the opinions you need from law enforcement and you may even pay for it. As long as you are okay with attracting thier attention, go for it. I do like the look of the super trapp or whatever silencer you have on the collector.

yes its a supertrapp

Originally Posted by james1300

I cant believe you butcherd that sweet lil Honda into that mess.
You deserve every harassing stop and ticket you get. You have earned them.

haha another opinion. you shouldve saw how hacked the bike was before i cleaned it up.

Originally Posted by Nefarious

First off, I dig your look ALOT more then I dig that horrible Eurotrash look where they turn the tail straight up. Personally? I'd want a hugger on there for the looks... and.. so I don't get run down by some guy after I put a rock through his window, or in the back of my head...

I'm pretty sure however that XLTman hit the nail on the head with 46.37.500

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.500

Seriously though guy if you're going to go custom you should expect mixed reviews, who gives a crap what anyone thinks as long as you dig it.

i do expect mixed opinions between pnwriders, stuntlife and customfighters its funny to see the reactions.

Originally Posted by easy

Seems like everyone is getting hung up on the def of a motor vehicle..RCW 46.04.320 Motor Vehicle - Defined, which applies to cars and trucks. RCW 46.04.330 Motorcycle - Defined..provides the description for motorcycles..the two have separate legal definitions and by definition, a motorcycle is not a motor vehicle. The RCW for Mudflaps does not apply to motorcycles or motor driven cycles. It applies to Motor Vehicles. Somebody else said they got a handout from WSP that lists RCW's that apply to motorcycles that includes this one. If this is true, it's wrong. RCW chapter 46.37.---is the one that references motorcycles and while I havn't read every RCW in this subsection, a quick glance reveals that there doesn't appear to even be a requirement for motorcycles to have fenders at all..or a front brake or turn signals for that matter...easy

And tell your co-workers to worry about their day job before they start spouting off about their hobby..

this is the reason i asked the question and listed the site for the rcw's. i dont understand why i would need one since motorcycles have their own section do not list anything about the fender in the motorcycle section. the rcw that everyone keeps listing is for motor vehicle (which they do not describe what it is). i would think that if a motorcycle is classed as a motor vehicle than the motorcycle section of the rcw would be obsolete

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SeattleVet · 07-07-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

this is the reason i asked the question and listed the site for the rcw's. i dont understand why i would need one since motorcycles have their own section do not list anything about the fender in the motorcycle section. the rcw that everyone keeps listing is for motor vehicle (which they do not describe what it is). i would think that if a motorcycle is classed as a motor vehicle than the motorcycle section of the rcw would be obsolete

.

Motorcycles are included in the overall definition of motor vehicles (they are a subset), and they also have their own, special, separate sections where the requirements are different. In general, the RCW will state that a motorcycle may have to follow a different section. Just because something isn't mentioned in the specific motorcycle section doesn't mean that there isn't a more general section that does apply to all motor vehicles.

Pointman · 07-07-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ramathorn

okay so since i started my new job ive been getting crap from some of my coworkers that are local reserves for the police department. most recently since i cut the rear of my bike off they have been saying that i need a rear hugger on the bike now. when i asked where that is in the rcw since my bike never came from factory with one they diddnt really have an answer.

my question is, is there actually a rcw to have a rear fender or hugger?
pic of my bike for a general reference:

rcw's and i did not find anything about the rear fender.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37

Have your "co-workers" put up or stfu.

Don't take their shit- they have the burden of proof- you don't.

They should have a RCW in mind -don't ask them- demand they provide documentation- I get sick and tired of these no nothing p.o.s.'s that pretend they know every RCW selectively to harass you.

Have fun with them...

ran429 · 07-08-2009, 06:30 PM

hand your co-workers a Pork rib from the BBQ and see if they are cannibals.

(Kidding of course)

Bofire · 07-08-2009, 06:39 PM

I like Pointmans idea, tell them, "put up or shut up" prove my(your) bike is illegal.
Hopfully they wont do it Ticket style cause they work with you and have not written you yet. It might make them think about what a "normal" citizen faces trying to figure this shit out.
Carl

Cleophus James · 07-08-2009, 07:00 PM

"ummmm......w/ my sv if i punch it hard my toosh scoots back and gets stopped by the passenger seat"

Sooo, are you running nitro methane or solid rocket boosters on that SV...

ddonacazx12 · 07-08-2009, 07:28 PM

if it's not cover'd in the rcw's, then chances are it's in the fedral regs. (that's also where the 9" c-c turnsignals, 3 sq. in. surface area for turnsignals, etc... comes from: federal regs, not state)

I do remember reading one about the fender has to extend to the centerline of the axle... but dont remember if it was fed or state.


07-07-2009, 02:20 PM	#41
JTurkish Zone Head Joined: Oct 2007 From: SLC, UT I Ride: SV1000N	ummmm......w/ my sv if i punch it hard my toosh scoots back and gets stopped by the passenger seat...........what'll happen on ur machine __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-07-2009, 02:55 PM	#42
OOk beansbaxter is too lazy to come up with something but he will get to it, eventually... Joined: Sep 2005 From: kerklund Blog Entries: 31	Your bike came with a subframe and a rear fender from the factory, which you chopped off, so yes, you need a hugger. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-07-2009, 03:41 PM	#45
midvalleysuperbiker Streetfighter Joined: May 2008 From: South Salem Oregon I Ride: Aprilia Tuono, Ducati GT1000, Moto Guzzi Centauro, Bimota DB4, Yamaha FJR1300	Looks cool, a hugger will not detract from the looks. Don't ride it in Salem, officer Timmy will have you, full cavity search and maybe a chance to spend the night with BUBA. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-07-2009, 04:19 PM	#46
james1300 Track School Dazed Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can	I cant believe you butcherd that sweet lil Honda into that mess. You deserve every harassing stop and ticket you get. You have earned them. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-07-2009, 04:28 PM	#48
Nefarious Superbiker Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bremerton Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: 03 SV650 (Track) 03 SV1000S (Street)	First off, I dig your look ALOT more then I dig that horrible Eurotrash look where they turn the tail straight up. Personally? I'd want a hugger on there for the looks... and.. so I don't get run down by some guy after I put a rock through his window, or in the back of my head... I'm pretty sure however that XLTman hit the nail on the head with 46.37.500 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.500 Seriously though guy if you're going to go custom you should expect mixed reviews, who gives a crap what anyone thinks as long as you dig it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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07-07-2009, 04:53 PM	#49
easy Training Wheels Joined: May 2009 From: vancouver wa I Ride: 1980 CB750SS 1995 CB1000	Seems like everyone is getting hung up on the def of a motor vehicle..RCW 46.04.320 Motor Vehicle - Defined, which applies to cars and trucks. RCW 46.04.330 Motorcycle - Defined..provides the description for motorcycles..the two have separate legal definitions and by definition, a motorcycle is not a motor vehicle. The RCW for Mudflaps does not apply to motorcycles or motor driven cycles. It applies to Motor Vehicles. Somebody else said they got a handout from WSP that lists RCW's that apply to motorcycles that includes this one. If this is true, it's wrong. RCW chapter 46.37.---is the one that references motorcycles and while I havn't read every RCW in this subsection, a quick glance reveals that there doesn't appear to even be a requirement for motorcycles to have fenders at all..or a front brake or turn signals for that matter...easy And tell your co-workers to worry about their day job before they start spouting off about their hobby.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by easy; 07-07-2009 at 05:30 PM..


07-07-2009, 07:28 PM	#50
jeremy Streetfighter Joined: Jul 2008 From: Auburn, WA I Ride: both the ladies in my avatar	bike looks sweet. i hate it when streetfighters have full sized tails, just looks wrong. i'd get a hugger cause i think it would look awesome, but i wouldn't think that would be the first thing a cop would write you up for. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-08-2009, 06:30 PM	#55
ran429 Streetfighter Joined: Jan 2005 From: Kent WA I Ride: 1993 Harley 1200c Sportster	hand your co-workers a Pork rib from the BBQ and see if they are cannibals. (Kidding of course) __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-08-2009, 06:39 PM	#56
Bofire Endorsed Joined: May 2009 From: Yelm, WA I Ride: Harley	I like Pointmans idea, tell them, "put up or shut up" prove my(your) bike is illegal. Hopfully they wont do it Ticket style cause they work with you and have not written you yet. It might make them think about what a "normal" citizen faces trying to figure this shit out. Carl __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-08-2009, 07:00 PM	#57
Cleophus James Endorsed Joined: May 2008 From: Irkutsk, USSR I Ride: Your sister	"ummmm......w/ my sv if i punch it hard my toosh scoots back and gets stopped by the passenger seat" Sooo, are you running nitro methane or solid rocket boosters on that SV... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-08-2009, 07:28 PM	#58
ddonacazx12 MotoGP Contender Joined: Jul 2007 From: Camas, Washington I Ride: 05 zx12r	if it's not cover'd in the rcw's, then chances are it's in the fedral regs. (that's also where the 9" c-c turnsignals, 3 sq. in. surface area for turnsignals, etc... comes from: federal regs, not state) I do remember reading one about the fender has to extend to the centerline of the axle... but dont remember if it was fed or state. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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