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FlyinBy · 07-10-2009, 01:21 PM

Just got back from Laguna Seca...and I managed to get my 2007 Rossi replica signed by the doctor himself.

Anyone know of a good helmet/paint shop to go to so that I can protect it from fading and stuff?

tia

dragracer1951 · 07-10-2009, 01:24 PM

Oh Hai
Have I mentioned how much I hate you now?

Just thought I'd mention that...
Kthxbye

GixxerPete · 07-10-2009, 01:32 PM

Put in on a shelf and never wear it again... problem solved, and autographed lid proudly displayed.

littleq624 · 07-10-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by GixxerPete

Put in on a shelf and never wear it again... problem solved, and autographed lid proudly displayed.

cause no matter how well protected...sliding on the road will sand away the ink in a HURRY

cal_look_zero · 07-10-2009, 02:18 PM

You could have the lid clear coated. Make sure they use something with an anti fading agent cuz artificial light will yellow it out.

ONEOFAKIND · 07-10-2009, 02:28 PM

Put it on a shelf. Buy a new helmet to wear.

CP

Jalharad · 07-10-2009, 03:24 PM

clear coat, and a good display case (it should cost you like 60 bucks for the case). Buy a new lid. Get the helmet professionaly clear coated by a painter who does collectable items.

Also, take a picture of it, sign and date it yourself (or take the picture with you in it). Pictures build history, more history means more value to potintial collectors.

cal_look_zero · 07-10-2009, 03:25 PM

Better idea, I have a great motorcycle memoribilia area in my workshop, I could keep it out of the elements in a safe protected environment for you...

Robusto · 07-10-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by FlyinBy

Just got back from Laguna Seca...and I managed to get my 2007 Rossi replica signed by the doctor himself.

Anyone know of a good helmet/paint shop to go to so that I can protect it from fading and stuff?

tia

buy a new helmet.

FlyinBy · 07-10-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Robusto

buy a new helmet.

Just bought the 2009 Rossi "continents" model...talked w/ a member here privately about a guy he knows in Lynnwood. He'll clear coat for $175 bones...given that I just spent $2k on suites at Laguna...$650 for a new lid...I'll hold off for a few weeks on the clear coat protection.

I haven't decided if I want to sell it yet. I've been following Rossi a long time...I really admire him. He's a prodigy...and I'm hoping for a 9th championship this year.

Anyone actually know a collector's name so I can call and maybe do it myself for less than $175?

quik99 · 07-10-2009, 05:53 PM

did you get a picture of him signing it? I would def keep that with it as proof

ApexHack · 07-11-2009, 01:49 PM

I just want to hear the story of you getting him to sign it. We only saw him a couple of times and he wasn't signing anything for anyone that I saw. Please do tell.

cal_look_zero · 07-11-2009, 02:40 PM

Good sweet mary mother of honda... $175 to clear a helmet? If that's the going rate, I've been dickin myself on what I can charge for piece work.

Nicegy525 · 07-11-2009, 02:54 PM

I went through this with my guitar. (signed by all members of Nickel Creek)

#1 do not attempt yourself as you can easily fuck it up and/or ruin the rest of the helmet's finish.

the materials used (proper materials) will last a lifetime, will not fade and are very expensive. Not to mention the equipment required to do a good quality paint job. (we're not talkin rattle can krylon here folks) so $175 is a very good price

What you should have done is wet sanded the helmet before Rossi had signed it, and then had someone shoot it with clear afterwards. Obviously you cant wet sand the signed area now, but a good painter will get it as close as he/she can. This will promote good adhesion to the paint so the clear wont peel with age.

Painting materials contain noxious fumes that can eat away at the foam padding in a helmet reducing its safety performance. A skilled painter can seal the helmet and protect it from those fumes getting in. (re-painting an arai helmet will void the warranty unless done by a certified painter for this very reason)

#2 are you planning to keep it as a collectible? If so then have it protected and put it on a shelf. bugs, rock chips, weather etc will wear down the helmet and kill any value it has.

littleq624 · 07-11-2009, 03:10 PM

moral of the story so far....get a new helmet if you want that helmet to have anything more than sentimental value...

Plummy · 07-11-2009, 03:58 PM

well, it was signed...until i crashed...

Nefarious · 07-11-2009, 04:03 PM

I'm confused... why bother getting it signed if you are just going to wear it and make it worthless? And for the love of god PLEASE don't do it yourself, that's as bad as throwing it down the road.

Outofsync · 07-11-2009, 04:48 PM

The painter he has contacted is Brandon Knowles with Brandxcustoms... And this is the best description I have seen of why $175 is beyond a fair price for the job at hand..
I know that there are a BUNCH of people that have had the pleasure o racing and having work done by brandon.. Thats why I posted this part..

Originally Posted by Nicegy525

I went through this with my guitar. (signed by all members of Nickel Creek)

#1 do not attempt yourself as you can easily fuck it up and/or ruin the rest of the helmet's finish.

the materials used (proper materials) will last a lifetime, will not fade and are very expensive. Not to mention the equipment required to do a good quality paint job. (we're not talkin rattle can krylon here folks) so $175 is a very good price

What you should have done is wet sanded the helmet before Rossi had signed it, and then had someone shoot it with clear afterwards. Obviously you cant wet sand the signed area now, but a good painter will get it as close as he/she can. This will promote good adhesion to the paint so the clear wont peel with age.

Painting materials contain noxious fumes that can eat away at the foam padding in a helmet reducing its safety performance. A skilled painter can seal the helmet and protect it from those fumes getting in. (re-painting an arai helmet will void the warranty unless done by a certified painter for this very reason)

#2 are you planning to keep it as a collectible? If so then have it protected and put it on a shelf. bugs, rock chips, weather etc will wear down the helmet and kill any value it has.

cal_look_zero · 07-11-2009, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Nicegy525

I went through this with my guitar. (signed by all members of Nickel Creek)

#1 do not attempt yourself as you can easily fuck it up and/or ruin the rest of the helmet's finish.

the materials used (proper materials) will last a lifetime, will not fade and are very expensive. Not to mention the equipment required to do a good quality paint job. (we're not talkin rattle can krylon here folks) so $175 is a very good price

What you should have done is wet sanded the helmet before Rossi had signed it, and then had someone shoot it with clear afterwards. Obviously you cant wet sand the signed area now, but a good painter will get it as close as he/she can. This will promote good adhesion to the paint so the clear wont peel with age.

Painting materials contain noxious fumes that can eat away at the foam padding in a helmet reducing its safety performance. A skilled painter can seal the helmet and protect it from those fumes getting in. (re-painting an arai helmet will void the warranty unless done by a certified painter for this very reason)

#2 are you planning to keep it as a collectible? If so then have it protected and put it on a shelf. bugs, rock chips, weather etc will wear down the helmet and kill any value it has.

LOL. $175 to clear something that small is a GANK. It's MAYBE 30 minutes of masking to do it right, and a 1/2 pint sprayable of a good quality clear... bout $20 in material. $75 would be a good price, $100 would be understandable, but combine them; that's just not right.

I'm curious how you would go about wet-sanding a vinyl graphic helmet without shredding the vinyl? If you were painting it to paint it, it would be a different story. To throw a protective clear, couple of super light fog coats to build teeth, then 2 medium coats for luster. BAM, there it is!

EDIT: I'm not getting the flamesuit on for this one. I do a lot of paint and fiberglass work on the side, and know well what materials cost, and how much all the equipment runs. Oh boy do I know. Just trying to keep the OP from getting dogged.

Outofsync · 07-11-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

LOL. $175 to clear something that small is a GANK. It's MAYBE 30 minutes of masking to do it right, and a 1/2 pint sprayable of a good quality clear... bout $20 in material. $75 would be a good price, $100 would be understandable, but combine them; that's just not right. Sounds like OP has enough coin to spare though. Maybe the clear contains some Rossi essensce, sprayed through a gun made of melted down Marchesinis?

30min???? Are you fucking crazy? There is at least 3 hours of prep to make sure it is done CORRECTLY... Yeah, 30 min to mask the thing.. Sure I will give you that... 2.5 to sand it bro... If you do it CORRECTLY, it should NOT be $100 or less... Realistically it should be over $200

cal_look_zero · 07-11-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Outofsync

30min???? Are you fucking crazy? There is at least 3 hours of prep to make sure it is done CORRECTLY... Yeah, 30 min to mask the thing.. Sure I will give you that... 2.5 to sand it bro... If you do it CORRECTLY, it should NOT be $100 or less... Realistically it should be over $200

I'll ask again... how would you wet sand a vinyl graphic? You could use 2000 grit and still leave scratches in the material that would be irrepairable.

ddonacazx12 · 07-11-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by FlyinBy

He's a prodigy...and I'm hoping for a 9th championship this year.

Only 22 more wins and 6 more championships and he'll catch up to Ago.

And yes clear coat is not dificult to apply... you could do it yourself. Do you have an airbrush? ( but if youre going to store it in a case on a shelf, you really wouldn't need the clearcoat...)

Nicegy525 · 07-11-2009, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

LOL. $175 to clear something that small is a GANK. It's MAYBE 30 minutes of masking to do it right, and a 1/2 pint sprayable of a good quality clear... bout $20 in material. $75 would be a good price, $100 would be understandable, but combine them; that's just not right.

I'm curious how you would go about wet-sanding a vinyl graphic helmet without shredding the vinyl? If you were painting it to paint it, it would be a different story. To throw a protective clear, couple of super light fog coats to build teeth, then 2 medium coats for luster. BAM, there it is!

EDIT: I'm not getting the flamesuit on for this one. I do a lot of paint and fiberglass work on the side, and know well what materials cost, and how much all the equipment runs. Oh boy do I know. Just trying to keep the OP from getting dogged.

the wet sand would be to scuff up the clear already on there to avoid the "orange peel" finish. You wouldnt go deep enough to get into the vinyl graphics underneath.

Materials would technically cost way more then $20. since you usually cant buy 1/2 pint of clear. Yes there are less expensive alternatives available.

Whats the quality like on your fiberglass work? I imagine track enthusiats arent looking for a one of a kind show piece paint job on their plastics.

Outofsync · 07-12-2009, 02:36 AM

^^^

.... ^^^

cal_look_zero · 07-12-2009, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Nicegy525

the wet sand would be to scuff up the clear already on there to avoid the "orange peel" finish. You wouldnt go deep enough to get into the vinyl graphics underneath.

Materials would technically cost way more then $20. since you usually cant buy 1/2 pint of clear. Yes there are less expensive alternatives available.

Whats the quality like on your fiberglass work? I imagine track enthusiats arent looking for a one of a kind show piece paint job on their plastics.

qft. My Rocket just has a vinyl overlay without a clear, but I saw an Arai that does infact have a clear coat over it, I stand corrected.

I say $20 based on buying it by the gallon. I'm a materials whore that way.

I don't dig on paint as much as glass work, but I do any basic striping, 2 tones, metallics, yadda yadda. As far as glass work, I'd say it's pretty top notch and a hell of an alternative to buying cheap chinese crap. I have a great filling compound that actually blends right with the original gel coat and avoids the annoying spider cracks that always seem to begin occurring right as you're about to paint... or after

Cropduster · 07-12-2009, 07:39 AM

$175.00 is definitely a fair price. No professional in his right mind would touch it for less. To add to what has already been said, this is an actual shop. With lots of other work, electric bills, insurance, rent, etc. He also has plenty of other work that he could be doing in that time worth way more money. Why would a professional shop set aside a job worth $1000.00 to do a helmet for $100.00 or less? It makes no business sense. Say all you want about another happy customer. This person will never return there for work.

Look at what your time is worth. I know mine is worth $80.00 per hour. You people doing it on the side that have a second job to support your family don't have to worry about that as much. I am sure much of that price is for his time. Most paint shops buy in bulk, so they don;t buy by the job.

Finally, if you are paying $20.00 for a gallon of clear coat, it is shit. I wouldn't want it applied to my lawnmower. A good clear coat will not cost less than a $100.00 per gallon. It is also a three part mix, so you have to by the reducer and activator to go with it.

ran429 · 07-12-2009, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

Good sweet mary mother of honda... $175 to clear a helmet? If that's the going rate, I've been dickin myself on what I can charge for piece work.

seriously, a nice clearcoat, cut and buff. Hmmmmm? $50 max

ran429 · 07-12-2009, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

I'll ask again... how would you wet sand a vinyl graphic? You could use 2000 grit and still leave scratches in the material that would be irrepairable.

dunked in

mixed with

or you can use a wet/dry paper at 600 grit, only lightly sand with the dawn/Water mix.
the clearcoat over top of the graphics is under a thick cover of clear. you only have to SCUFF the paint for adhesion.
I wouldnt use U-Pol on the helmet either.

Adhesion promoter and a top quality clear mixed would be sufficent. its going to be on a friggin shelf for gods sake.

Nefarious · 07-12-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

qft. My Rocket just has a vinyl overlay without a clear, but I saw an Arai that does infact have a clear coat over it, I stand corrected.

I say $20 based on buying it by the gallon. I'm a materials whore that way.

I don't dig on paint as much as glass work, but I do any basic striping, 2 tones, metallics, yadda yadda. As far as glass work, I'd say it's pretty top notch and a hell of an alternative to buying cheap chinese crap. I have a great filling compound that actually blends right with the original gel coat and avoids the annoying spider cracks that always seem to begin occurring right as you're about to paint... or after

Seriously though, I've seen what happens when Joe Schmo decides to buy cheap clear to do somthing like this because "Some guy on a forum swore he knew what he was talking about" That crap might fly for track bikes and half assed paint jobs, but when you have a show quality piece like this helmet is, you don't go cheap. You apparently have NO idea what you're talking about as far as quality is concerned, so do the OP a favor and just stop.

Outofsync · 07-12-2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by ran429

seriously, a nice clearcoat, cut and buff. Hmmmmm? $50 max

Ignorance must be nice..

YOU Sir, FUCKING FAIL!!

Capt. All Gravy · 07-12-2009, 06:19 PM

hit it with hairspray and call it good! grats on the sig, thats sweet!

MCA8690 · 07-12-2009, 06:31 PM

This has to be the gheyest thread I've read in a while....

A post about getting your Rossi replica helmet, signed by The Doctor himself, and not only are there no pictures of said helmet but not even a snapshot of him autographing your lid?

waste of time

cal_look_zero · 07-12-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Cropduster

$175.00 is definitely a fair price. No professional in his right mind would touch it for less. To add to what has already been said, this is an actual shop. With lots of other work, electric bills, insurance, rent, etc. He also has plenty of other work that he could be doing in that time worth way more money. Why would a professional shop set aside a job worth $1000.00 to do a helmet for $100.00 or less? It makes no business sense. Say all you want about another happy customer. This person will never return there for work.

Look at what your time is worth. I know mine is worth $80.00 per hour. You people doing it on the side that have a second job to support your family don't have to worry about that as much. I am sure much of that price is for his time. Most paint shops buy in bulk, so they don;t buy by the job.

Finally, if you are paying $20.00 for a gallon of clear coat, it is shit. I wouldn't want it applied to my lawnmower. A good clear coat will not cost less than a $100.00 per gallon. It is also a three part mix, so you have to by the reducer and activator to go with it.

Did I ever say $20 a gallon? No, no I did not. I say $20 for a 1/2 pint sprayable (ok, technically 7oz) 4oz of clear, 2oz medium rate reducer, and 1oz hardener. I buy PPG clear to the tune of $130 a gallon, plus my hardener, plus my reducer. Feel free to remove your foot from mouth/head from ass before you reply again.

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Seriously though, I've seen what happens when Joe Schmo decides to buy cheap clear to do somthing like this because "Some guy on a forum swore he knew what he was talking about" That crap might fly for track bikes and half assed paint jobs, but when you have a show quality piece like this helmet is, you don't go cheap. You apparently have NO idea what you're talking about as far as quality is concerned, so do the OP a favor and just stop.

Yeah, I have no idea what I'm talking about. That's why I have 4 bikes of repair and repaint coming up because people have seen my work and are thrilled to get the quality at the price I offer. Maybe, JUST maybe I enjoy the work more than I enjoy lining my pockets, and happen to charge less because I get a kick out of seeing the completed projects and knowing I had a hand in helping someone get their bike back together?

Think... then type.

Cropduster · 07-12-2009, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

Did I ever say $20 a gallon? No, no I did not. I say $20 for a 1/2 pint sprayable (ok, technically 7oz) 4oz of clear, 2oz medium rate reducer, and 1oz hardener. I buy PPG clear to the tune of $130 a gallon, plus my hardener, plus my reducer. Feel free to remove your foot from mouth/head from ass before you reply again.

Yeah, I have no idea what I'm talking about. That's why I have 4 bikes of repair and repaint coming up because people have seen my work and are thrilled to get the quality at the price I offer. Maybe, JUST maybe I enjoy the work more than I enjoy lining my pockets, and happen to charge less because I get a kick out of seeing the completed projects and knowing I had a hand in helping someone get their bike back together?

Think... then type.

Or maybe you should learn to type so your sentences make sense.

Or maybe your work is being judged by people without an eye for paint and body work.

Or maybe you just think your good. Would love to see pictures of your work. Those that toot their horn the loudest usually suck the most. I have been in the automotive business now going on 18 years, and I see people like you every day. Prove what you are saying or shut the fuck up. You are only adding to your ignorance each time you type.

Again, a legitimate business, with bills, employees, insurance, rent, and a proper and environmentally sound spray booth quoted $175.00. If you do all this work at home and are collecting money for it with out a proper set up, you are asking for a load of fail. What's your address? I would love to come see your set up. Hell, they don't even let you guys pump your own fuel, they would probably love you!

Cropduster · 07-12-2009, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by ran429

dunked in

mixed with

or you can use a wet/dry paper at 600 grit, only lightly sand with the dawn/Water mix.
the clearcoat over top of the graphics is under a thick cover of clear. you only have to SCUFF the paint for adhesion.
I wouldnt use U-Pol on the helmet either.

Adhesion promoter and a top quality clear mixed would be sufficent. its going to be on a friggin shelf for gods sake.

600 grit? Seriously?????

FlyingWheelsCycleCourier · 07-12-2009, 07:51 PM

whine whine bitch

bottom line, dont have your $600 helmet autographed unless your ready to put it up on the shelf after the painter gets thru with it which then makes it a $800 helmet you cant wear.

sweet deal on the helmet we saw rossi at laguna seca too but no auto's.

where did you stay you mentioned 2k suites? we stayed at the powersport dynamic turn 5 chalet it was great.

cal_look_zero · 07-13-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Cropduster

Or maybe you should learn to type so your sentences make sense.

Or maybe your work is being judged by people without an eye for paint and body work.

Or maybe you just think your good. Would love to see pictures of your work. Those that toot their horn the loudest usually suck the most. I have been in the automotive business now going on 18 years, and I see people like you every day. Prove what you are saying or shut the fuck up. You are only adding to your ignorance each time you type.

Again, a legitimate business, with bills, employees, insurance, rent, and a proper and environmentally sound spray booth quoted $175.00. If you do all this work at home and are collecting money for it with out a proper set up, you are asking for a load of fail. What's your address? I would love to come see your set up. Hell, they don't even let you guys pump your own fuel, they would probably love you!

I rent out a Binks downdraft spraybooth at an automotive shop that I've done business with for awhile. I refer them mechanic type work, they let me use their booth. I run DeVilbiss FinishLine guns. I hadn't made $600 yet considering I barely make profit on my work so as of this moment in time, I'm not a legitimate business. (nor am I trying to act like one) However I'll have a legitmate business license beginning of next month, no insurance required according to Oregon state laws.

MotoX Suzuki LTR450

Painted wildfire red early 2008. All PPG; primer, base, and clear coats. Nerf bars and rims painted gloss black with Omni single stage.

2005 Suzuki GSXR600

Satin black PPG single stage finish, with a hazed gloss windscreen for contrast.

Nissan pick up

Pictured right before color sanding and air bags, mismixed corvette red that ended up more orange than we anticipated.

Toyota celica

Recleared after it was painted by someone who didn't understand that orange peel is a no no. Wish he had let me mold the body kit instead of joe jackoff who bondoed it on there.

Any other questions skippy?


07-10-2009, 01:32 PM	#3
GixxerPete Forum Synopsizer Joined: Jul 2006 From: Point Lookout I Ride: 08 KLR650, 06 DRZ400SM, 04 CRF250X, 03 XR50	Put in on a shelf and never wear it again... problem solved, and autographed lid proudly displayed. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-10-2009, 02:18 PM	#5
cal_look_zero Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2008 From: Medford, OR I Ride: my 2006 CBR600RR like a friggin pansy	You could have the lid clear coated. Make sure they use something with an anti fading agent cuz artificial light will yellow it out. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-10-2009, 02:28 PM	#6
ONEOFAKIND Training Wheels Joined: May 2007 From: Seattle WA I Ride: SV 650	Put it on a shelf. Buy a new helmet to wear. CP __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-10-2009, 03:24 PM	#7
Jalharad Streetfighter Joined: Jul 2007 From: Bellingham, Washington I Ride: Two-up and slower then a snail	clear coat, and a good display case (it should cost you like 60 bucks for the case). Buy a new lid. Get the helmet professionaly clear coated by a painter who does collectable items. Also, take a picture of it, sign and date it yourself (or take the picture with you in it). Pictures build history, more history means more value to potintial collectors. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-10-2009, 03:25 PM	#8
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07-10-2009, 01:21 PM	#1
FlyinBy Newbie Joined: Jul 2009 From: Eatonville, WA I Ride: 2008 Honda CBR 1000RR Silver/Black	Helmet Autograph protection? Just got back from Laguna Seca...and I managed to get my 2007 Rossi replica signed by the doctor himself. Anyone know of a good helmet/paint shop to go to so that I can protect it from fading and stuff? tia __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-10-2009, 01:24 PM	#2
dragracer1951 MotoGP Champion Joined: Sep 2005 From: Bremerton I Ride: 03 Are See fiddy one, 05 DRZ400SM, 95 FZR1040, 69 Combat Commando Roadster, 73 Commando Interstate, 67 BSA B44, 71 BSA B50	Oh Hai Have I mentioned how much I hate you now? Just thought I'd mention that... Kthxbye __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-10-2009, 05:53 PM	#11
quik99 Pit Crew Joined: Jul 2007 From: Olympia I Ride: K6 GSXR 600	did you get a picture of him signing it? I would def keep that with it as proof __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-11-2009, 01:49 PM	#12
ApexHack WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jun 2007 From: Seattle I Ride: YZF750, 1000RR	I just want to hear the story of you getting him to sign it. We only saw him a couple of times and he wasn't signing anything for anyone that I saw. Please do tell. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-11-2009, 02:40 PM	#13
cal_look_zero Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2008 From: Medford, OR I Ride: my 2006 CBR600RR like a friggin pansy	Good sweet mary mother of honda... $175 to clear a helmet? If that's the going rate, I've been dickin myself on what I can charge for piece work. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-11-2009, 02:54 PM	#14
Nicegy525 Zone Head Joined: Feb 2008 From: Portland, Oregon I Ride: '07 GSXR-750	I went through this with my guitar. (signed by all members of Nickel Creek) #1 do not attempt yourself as you can easily fuck it up and/or ruin the rest of the helmet's finish. the materials used (proper materials) will last a lifetime, will not fade and are very expensive. Not to mention the equipment required to do a good quality paint job. (we're not talkin rattle can krylon here folks) so $175 is a very good price What you should have done is wet sanded the helmet before Rossi had signed it, and then had someone shoot it with clear afterwards. Obviously you cant wet sand the signed area now, but a good painter will get it as close as he/she can. This will promote good adhesion to the paint so the clear wont peel with age. Painting materials contain noxious fumes that can eat away at the foam padding in a helmet reducing its safety performance. A skilled painter can seal the helmet and protect it from those fumes getting in. (re-painting an arai helmet will void the warranty unless done by a certified painter for this very reason) #2 are you planning to keep it as a collectible? If so then have it protected and put it on a shelf. bugs, rock chips, weather etc will wear down the helmet and kill any value it has. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-11-2009, 03:10 PM	#15
littleq624 Chat Whore Joined: May 2008 From: Issaquah, WA Blog Entries: 3 I Ride: whenever i want cause i got bikey fixed!	moral of the story so far....get a new helmet if you want that helmet to have anything more than sentimental value... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-11-2009, 03:58 PM	#16
Plummy Moderator Joined: Feb 2005 From: sounds like scrotum shake Blog Entries: 3 I Ride: imaginary unicorns	well, it was signed...until i crashed... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-11-2009, 04:03 PM	#17
Nefarious Superbiker Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bremerton Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: 03 SV650 (Track) 03 SV1000S (Street)	I'm confused... why bother getting it signed if you are just going to wear it and make it worthless? And for the love of god PLEASE don't do it yourself, that's as bad as throwing it down the road. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-12-2009, 02:36 AM	#24
Outofsync MotoGP Champion Joined: Apr 2006 From: Eeeveruutt I Ride: the bike that I am allowed to ride.. I dont own one... <-----Fail	^^^.... ^^^ __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-12-2009, 07:39 AM	#26
Cropduster jimd2p aka Dweezlebutt Joined: Aug 2006 From: Olympia Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: In full tuck at 35 mph	$175.00 is definitely a fair price. No professional in his right mind would touch it for less. To add to what has already been said, this is an actual shop. With lots of other work, electric bills, insurance, rent, etc. He also has plenty of other work that he could be doing in that time worth way more money. Why would a professional shop set aside a job worth $1000.00 to do a helmet for $100.00 or less? It makes no business sense. Say all you want about another happy customer. This person will never return there for work. Look at what your time is worth. I know mine is worth $80.00 per hour. You people doing it on the side that have a second job to support your family don't have to worry about that as much. I am sure much of that price is for his time. Most paint shops buy in bulk, so they don;t buy by the job. Finally, if you are paying $20.00 for a gallon of clear coat, it is shit. I wouldn't want it applied to my lawnmower. A good clear coat will not cost less than a $100.00 per gallon. It is also a three part mix, so you have to by the reducer and activator to go with it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-12-2009, 06:19 PM	#31
Capt. All Gravy Endorsed Joined: Sep 2008 From: burien, washington I Ride: to forget!	hit it with hairspray and call it good! grats on the sig, thats sweet! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-12-2009, 06:31 PM	#32
MCA8690 McLovin' Joined: Sep 2007 From: PDX.....Tempe? I Ride: faster than Djoplin riding 1-up	This has to be the gheyest thread I've read in a while.... A post about getting your Rossi replica helmet, signed by The Doctor himself, and not only are there no pictures of said helmet but not even a snapshot of him autographing your lid? waste of time __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-12-2009, 07:51 PM	#36
FlyingWheelsCycleCourier Training Wheels Joined: Jun 2009 From: Bellingham, WA I Ride: rain or shine 51 weeks out of the year.........	whine whine bitch bottom line, dont have your $600 helmet autographed unless your ready to put it up on the shelf after the painter gets thru with it which then makes it a $800 helmet you cant wear. sweet deal on the helmet we saw rossi at laguna seca too but no auto's. where did you stay you mentioned 2k suites? we stayed at the powersport dynamic turn 5 chalet it was great. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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