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FZ6Rider · 07-13-2009, 12:26 AM

I came across this bike/scooter that is electric but has very good handling.

Enertia Bike

What is your opinion? Does it have any good future?

How about a race bike

cityxslicker · 07-13-2009, 12:32 AM

dear gawd, what do people have against a perfectly good internal combustion engine?

Alpine 318is · 07-13-2009, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by cityxslicker

dear gawd, what do people have against a perfectly good internal combustion engine?

Oh I don't know maybe the excessive C02 emissions or the fact that our natural resources are slowly being burned away. That might be it.

Lynk · 07-13-2009, 12:43 AM

You're not one of them, are you?!

cal_look_zero · 07-13-2009, 01:08 AM

Those are built in Ashland, like 10 miles from here...

Saw one cruising around, pretty bad ass if you ask me. Great for a commuter bike. I would only ride a race fairing type honestly.

dc_sniper9130 · 07-13-2009, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by cityxslicker

dear gawd, what do people have against a perfectly good internal combustion engine?

+ fucking 1

ApexHack · 07-13-2009, 01:32 AM

I really like the trend and would love to try one out sometime. Seeing the FIM setting up an electric racing series is also exciting.

I was looking forward to riding a ZERO at the USGP but it seemed like they were overwhelmed and pulling back or something. First it was rides anytime, then between certain hours. I was hanging out in their booth for a while and nobody said word one to me so I said "fuck it". They will have to step up their game with competition entering the market.

I can see small-scale wind farms and solar panels eventually powering our two-wheeled toys.

cycletomm · 07-13-2009, 10:49 AM

I rode the Zero at the USGP and was not impressed. Slow, Handled poorly. The Vectrix scooter on the other hand was great but I bought a MP3 500 instead.

FZ6Rider · 07-13-2009, 11:08 AM

Any idea on the price for one of these? The 45 mile range is not long enough for me.

IllN · 07-13-2009, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by FZ6Rider

Any idea on the price for one of these? The 45 mile range is not long enough for me.

They're going to be around $12K.

Priced for being on the bleeding edge. Remember $20K plasma TVs? It'll be interesting to see how they sell. Having them at Best Buy could tip either way.

cal_look_zero · 07-13-2009, 12:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxDPz...e=channel_page

Faster than an electric scooter, for sure lol.

If I had a commute, I would totally rock one. Ride 35-40 miles to work, plug it in while you work, ride home at the end of the day.

matt007 · 07-14-2009, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by cal_look_zero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxDPz...e=channel_page

Faster than an electric scooter, for sure lol.

If I had a commute, I would totally rock one. Ride 35-40 miles to work, plug it in while you work, ride home at the end of the day.

The high pitched dc motor whine almost sounds like a 600 at the limiter
make it go 100mph and 100 miles I will buy one

Are_Six · 07-14-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by matt007

The high pitched dc motor whine almost sounds like a 600 at the limiter
make it go 100mph and 100 miles I will buy one

I don't know, even if it did you could never go on a group ride on the thing. Hey guys I need to refuel, mind waiting 3 hours...

I also don't use my bike to commute so it doesn't answer that question either.

evotorres · 07-14-2009, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Alpine 318is

Oh I don't know maybe the excessive C02 emissions or the fact that our natural resources are slowly being burned away. That might be it.

Only fags like those things

VFRtard · 07-14-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Alpine 318is

Oh I don't know maybe the excessive C02 emissions or the fact that our natural resources are slowly being burned away. That might be it.

If your truely believe that, maybe you should do your part and sell your not so eco friendly rides and go green rather than living a life as a hypocrite.

BigDave · 07-14-2009, 10:10 AM

Give me gas or give me death!!! Dooh!

Runout · 07-14-2009, 10:20 AM

That would be perfect for my commute. Like someone said - it'll be interesting when the price goes down. Electric bicycles are pretty common now as it is. I wouldn't give up my regular ride, but if it'll keep my fun motorcycle from racking up commuter miles I'm all for it.

And you can't beat plugging it in on the company's dime instead of gassing it up on yours.

Sirena · 07-14-2009, 10:30 AM

Interesting - thanks for sharing!
Looks like it goes about as fast as my scooter - which is plenty fast for my city commute with a 30mph speed limit.
Of course it is too expensive right now, but maybe that will change. It couldn't be the only bike in the garage!

Avboden · 07-14-2009, 10:42 AM

This song pretty much sums it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxIgcPsHFs

Alpine 318is · 07-14-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by evotorres

Only fags like those things

Originally Posted by VFRtard

If your truely believe that, maybe you should do your part and sell your not so eco friendly rides and go green rather than living a life as a hypocrite.

I try to do my part as much as I can. I intern at a LEED certified architecture firm and ride my 40 MPG bike to work everyday instead of a car. I love the internal combustion engine I just dont get why people put these bikes and cars down some much. Welcome to our future.

Nefarious · 07-14-2009, 12:14 PM

I love how dirty dumb ass hippies think that electric vehicles don't have any sort of pollution.

Agree with VFRtard though

If you are going to talk about Green like it's the new black, sell your evil combustion bike and ride a bicycle to work.

cityxslicker · 07-14-2009, 12:24 PM

I would go lightweight small displacement gas before I ever go electric

www.derringercycles.com
www.fxcycles.com
www.scorba.com (their 4tricks with adult tires)
or even the Sachs XRoad 125cc

If all these hippies are so concerned about the enviroment, they should do everyone a favor and quit reproducing. Save gas bikes, quit yer breedin.

holypiston · 07-14-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by FZ6Rider

I came across this bike/scooter that is electric but has very good handling.

What is your opinion? Does it have any good future?

How about a race bike?

I like the racebike better. Looks like a proper motorcycle.

If they can get batteries that last, hold a consistent charge and charge quickly (w/o blowing up on you), that might be a good option.

electric motors are torquey as HELL. but then I'd figure the power would taper off like a small toy that gradually goes slower and slower. The first 1/4 mile should be a ripper though, right?

hondakilla98 · 07-14-2009, 02:16 PM

Here's what i think

cascaderider · 07-14-2009, 03:20 PM

FTW!

Originally Posted by hondakilla98

Here's what i think

Monster4570 · 07-14-2009, 04:40 PM

Hey Hippies...Ever think about where the electricity comes from to charge your little electric bike?

BURNING FUCKING COAL!!!...FUCK YEAH!!

.

Nick2k · 07-14-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Monster4570

Hey Hippies...Ever think about where the electricity comes from to charge your little electric bike?

BURNING FUCKING COAL!!!...FUCK YEAH!!.

Even though there is no pollution pumping from the tailpipe of an electric motorcycle (there isn’t even a tailpipe). That does not mean it is not having an environmental impact.

After all, that electricity has to come from somewhere. Here in the Pacific Northwest, where hydroelectric power reigns, it is a much cleaner choice than other parts of the nation.

In states such as North Dakota, West Virginia and Wyoming the the majority of their electricity is coal-generated creating atmosphere-bound pollution. However, the amount of electricity used for a small vehicle like a motorcycle is minimal, making it's "carbon footprint" substantially less than a traditional motorcycle even when the electricity is derived from coal.

Flaerion · 07-14-2009, 05:40 PM

Nevermind the batteries in that electric bike are just as hazardous to manufacture as gasoline and require even more petroleum products than gasoline does per mile of operational output of the vehicle.

Also, batteries degrade very rapidly, even the latest lithium polymer batteries only offer 1000 cycles (defined as any discharge and recharge of any type) before they start to lose peak amperage delivery rates, voltage, and capacity. Also, the control circuits for these batteries, if lithium based, will often times manually restrict the cells long before they actually begin to degrade, ie 1000 cycles in. I've personally done a fair amount of work with various rechargeable technologies, and frankly, the one that stood out as the most robust isn't being used here (Nickel Metal Hydride - shelf life over 5 years and 2000 cycles on modern parts vs. 2-2.5 years and 1000-1250 cycles for any Li-tech cell)

The only saving grace is that the Valence cells don't explode when damaged, but also lack up to 25% of the capacity of standard Li-po formulations.

Yeah, in the short term, once built it no longer directly requires fossil fuels to operate, but remember that electricity is generated using something as a "fuel" source, be it nuclear, fossil, hydro, solar or wind. So if this bike is powered only by wind, solar or hydro... You fill in the rest, I'm tired of typing. ADD and all

cityxslicker · 07-29-2009, 11:30 PM

ooooh look SPAM! Spam and Hippies, that timelss classic combo, feel the win.

dragracer1951 · 07-30-2009, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Alpine 318is

I try to do my part as much as I can. I intern at a LEED certified architecture firm and ride my 40 MPG bike to work everyday instead of a car. I love the internal combustion engine I just dont get why people put these bikes and cars down some much. Welcome to our future.

Soooo....
You're NOT going to be giving up that motorcycle. Are you?
Didn't think so.

Sirena · 07-30-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Nefarious

I love how dirty dumb ass hippies think that electric vehicles don't have any sort of pollution.

Agree with VFRtard though

If you are going to talk about Green like it's the new black, sell your evil combustion bike and ride a bicycle to work.

One doesn't have to be dirty, or "dumb ass" to care about the world we live in. I'm surprised to see fellow riders dissing people for trying to figure out good ways to commute!

cityxslicker · 07-30-2009, 11:09 PM

Look if we're all really really uptight about CO emissions and pollution from engines... quit racing, all of it. Next, kill trucking, (grow your own shiat in your own back yard, and forget about deliveries or commerce) Next quit your job and quit commuting, next start tackling that hot air by quitting your CO2 emmissions....

I know I would feel better. Do it for mother earth, already.

KRAKR · 07-30-2009, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by cityxslicker

dear gawd, what do people have against a perfectly good internal combustion engine?

I for one enjoy making my Carbon Footprint as big as possible by burning as much gas a possible

........Go internal combustion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEAST · 07-30-2009, 11:32 PM

hydrogen burns hotter than gasoline, screw electric, why not look into more hydrogen powered vehicles? isn't it basically inexhaustible?

I'd rather see a biodiesel bike than this. You're still reliant on coal energy to charge the things. Pure electric has no future.

BEAST · 07-30-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Sirena

One doesn't have to be dirty, or "dumb ass" to care about the world we live in. I'm surprised to see fellow riders dissing people for trying to figure out good ways to commute!

Life would be better if everyone rode motorcycles. And in lieu of a car, make a trike bike with a roof for the kiddies lol

Seriously we're running out of oil fast. Show on science channel about alaskan lines said they'll be depleted in like 20 years if I remember right. I'm not a wrench turner enough to turn my klr into a bio diesel, but if a manufacturer started making them, I'd get one.

king_ogre · 08-05-2009, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by BEAST

hydrogen burns hotter than gasoline, screw electric, why not look into more hydrogen powered vehicles? isn't it basically inexhaustible?

I'd rather see a biodiesel bike than this. You're still reliant on coal energy to charge the things. Pure electric has no future.

http://www.killacycle.com/about/

"has made the fastest (mph) and quickest (ET) ¼ mile pass ever made by any electric vehicle of any kind (7.824 s @ 168 mph, Pomona, November 2007)."

Just a bit faster than my Blackbird lol ...pure electric has an amazing future...

Also...

www.vestas.com

Oregon will have the largest wind farm in the world for about two years. After that, the project in Texas will be completed and Oregon will be the second largest.

And...
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/03/18-6

Coal is going the way of the dinosuar...ironically...

-R


07-13-2009, 12:26 AM	#1
FZ6Rider Streetfighter Joined: Aug 2008 From: Woodburn, OR I Ride: wrecked bikes!	Your next bike I came across this bike/scooter that is electric but has very good handling. Enertia Bike What is your opinion? Does it have any good future? How about a race bike __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 12:32 AM	#2
cityxslicker Superbiker Joined: Nov 2007 From: Silverdale, Wa I Ride: Buell XB9SX City-X	dear gawd, what do people have against a perfectly good internal combustion engine? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 12:43 AM	#4
Lynk Superbiker Joined: Dec 2005 From: Bellevue, WA I Ride: a 2006 H-D XL1200C, 2005 Suzuki DRZ-400SM, 1997 Kawa Ninja 500R, and 2003 Yamaha YZF-R6 (racebike).	You're not one of them, are you?! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 01:08 AM	#5
cal_look_zero Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2008 From: Medford, OR I Ride: my 2006 CBR600RR like a friggin pansy	Those are built in Ashland, like 10 miles from here... Saw one cruising around, pretty bad ass if you ask me. Great for a commuter bike. I would only ride a race fairing type honestly. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 01:32 AM	#7
ApexHack WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jun 2007 From: Seattle I Ride: YZF750, 1000RR	I really like the trend and would love to try one out sometime. Seeing the FIM setting up an electric racing series is also exciting. I was looking forward to riding a ZERO at the USGP but it seemed like they were overwhelmed and pulling back or something. First it was rides anytime, then between certain hours. I was hanging out in their booth for a while and nobody said word one to me so I said "fuck it". They will have to step up their game with competition entering the market. I can see small-scale wind farms and solar panels eventually powering our two-wheeled toys. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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07-13-2009, 10:49 AM	#8
cycletomm Newbie Joined: Jul 2009 From: Danville Ca	I rode the Zero at the USGP and was not impressed. Slow, Handled poorly. The Vectrix scooter on the other hand was great but I bought a MP3 500 instead. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 11:08 AM	#9
FZ6Rider Streetfighter Joined: Aug 2008 From: Woodburn, OR I Ride: wrecked bikes!	Any idea on the price for one of these? The 45 mile range is not long enough for me. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 10:10 AM	#16
BigDave Streetfighter Joined: Jun 2008 From: Fairview Oregon I Ride: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-14R, 2008 KTM 250 SX-F & 2009 KTM 505 XC-F	Give me gas or give me death!!! Dooh! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 10:20 AM	#17
Runout MotoGP Contender Joined: Sep 2006 From: protesting at the mall I Ride: faster than I should, but slower than you.	That would be perfect for my commute. Like someone said - it'll be interesting when the price goes down. Electric bicycles are pretty common now as it is. I wouldn't give up my regular ride, but if it'll keep my fun motorcycle from racking up commuter miles I'm all for it. And you can't beat plugging it in on the company's dime instead of gassing it up on yours. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 10:30 AM	#18
Sirena Pit Crew Joined: Jun 2008 From: Portland, OR I Ride: Kawi Ninja 250 & Yamaha Vino 125	Interesting - thanks for sharing! Looks like it goes about as fast as my scooter - which is plenty fast for my city commute with a 30mph speed limit. Of course it is too expensive right now, but maybe that will change. It couldn't be the only bike in the garage! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 12:14 PM	#21
Nefarious Superbiker Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bremerton Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: 03 SV650 (Track) 03 SV1000S (Street)	I love how dirty dumb ass hippies think that electric vehicles don't have any sort of pollution. Agree with VFRtard though If you are going to talk about Green like it's the new black, sell your evil combustion bike and ride a bicycle to work. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 12:24 PM	#22
cityxslicker Superbiker Joined: Nov 2007 From: Silverdale, Wa I Ride: Buell XB9SX City-X	I would go lightweight small displacement gas before I ever go electric www.derringercycles.com www.fxcycles.com www.scorba.com (their 4tricks with adult tires) or even the Sachs XRoad 125cc If all these hippies are so concerned about the enviroment, they should do everyone a favor and quit reproducing. Save gas bikes, quit yer breedin. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 02:16 PM	#24
hondakilla98 Pit Crew Joined: Dec 2007 From: BEAVERTON, OR I Ride: 2000 kawasaki zx-12r	Here's what i think __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 04:40 PM	#26
Monster4570 WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Apr 2009 From: Winthrop, WA Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: therefor I am	Hey Hippies...Ever think about where the electricity comes from to charge your little electric bike? *BURNING FUCKING COAL!!!...FUCK YEAH!!* . __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 05:40 PM	#28
Flaerion Pit Crew Joined: May 2009 From: Fairwood, WA I Ride: SV650SF 08	Nevermind the batteries in that electric bike are just as hazardous to manufacture as gasoline and require even more petroleum products than gasoline does per mile of operational output of the vehicle. Also, batteries degrade very rapidly, even the latest lithium polymer batteries only offer 1000 cycles (defined as any discharge and recharge of any type) before they start to lose peak amperage delivery rates, voltage, and capacity. Also, the control circuits for these batteries, if lithium based, will often times manually restrict the cells long before they actually begin to degrade, ie 1000 cycles in. I've personally done a fair amount of work with various rechargeable technologies, and frankly, the one that stood out as the most robust isn't being used here (Nickel Metal Hydride - shelf life over 5 years and 2000 cycles on modern parts vs. 2-2.5 years and 1000-1250 cycles for any Li-tech cell) The only saving grace is that the Valence cells don't explode when damaged, but also lack up to 25% of the capacity of standard Li-po formulations. Yeah, in the short term, once built it no longer directly requires fossil fuels to operate, but remember that electricity is generated using something as a "fuel" source, be it nuclear, fossil, hydro, solar or wind. So if this bike is powered only by wind, solar or hydro... You fill in the rest, I'm tired of typing. ADD and all __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Flaerion; 07-14-2009 at 05:45 PM.. Reason: because I wanted to!


07-29-2009, 11:30 PM	#29
cityxslicker Superbiker Joined: Nov 2007 From: Silverdale, Wa I Ride: Buell XB9SX City-X	ooooh look SPAM! Spam and Hippies, that timelss classic combo, feel the win. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-30-2009, 11:09 PM	#32
cityxslicker Superbiker Joined: Nov 2007 From: Silverdale, Wa I Ride: Buell XB9SX City-X	Look if we're all really really uptight about CO emissions and pollution from engines... quit racing, all of it. Next, kill trucking, (grow your own shiat in your own back yard, and forget about deliveries or commerce) Next quit your job and quit commuting, next start tackling that hot air by quitting your CO2 emmissions.... I know I would feel better. Do it for mother earth, already. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-30-2009, 11:32 PM	#34
BEAST Training Wheels Joined: Jul 2009 From: Eatonville, WA I Ride: 09 BLUE KLR650	hydrogen burns hotter than gasoline, screw electric, why not look into more hydrogen powered vehicles? isn't it basically inexhaustible? I'd rather see a biodiesel bike than this. You're still reliant on coal energy to charge the things. Pure electric has no future. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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