PNW Riders

the chemist · 07-13-2009, 09:57 PM

So I bought a VholdR about two weeks ago and was excited to get some on track video. I finally got to test it out this weekend at Nesba. Well, Saturday I recorded two sessions before I had a mechanical that put me out for the day. Got the video off the camera and was ready to go for sunday. After recording two sessions sunday morning I decided to put them on my computer and wipe the memory. I go out for the third session and I'm following Moaka (who's on a motard). Getting really good footage of him sliding it into 3, 9, 2, etc. After about 5 laps we come out of turn two and he sticks his foot out. I move over slightly and see something laying in the middle of the track. WTF? That looks like a camera...so I look down to my mount and guess what...there is no camera there. I pull off and tell the marshal, go pick it up after the session...the attaching velcro came undone in the middle of the session and my camera fell off....blowing apart. I was a little mad about losing the footage and the brand new camera. Yea...four sessions out of it before the stupid thing fell off.....

So today, I email VholdR telling them what happened and asking if there was anything we could do. I expect them to say that they're sorry but there's nothing they could do since its not a proven flaw etc etc. MAYBE get one for a discount

Instead, I get an email that basically says "we will of course cover it under the warranty. email us your full name, address, phone number and serial number and we'll get the exchange started. "

Just wanted to let everyone know, because I dont think I've ever got such great customer service. Of course, I havent actually gotten the exchange yet. But, I feel its defiantly worth letting people know about.

My recommendations to ANYONE on the fence about a camera from VholdR

ChrisMag · 07-13-2009, 10:00 PM

I had a defective one. Their service was very good.

Recommend next time looping the leash through something fixed to the bike, just in case.

By the way, I tested the Contour HD clips (both 720p and the 60fps SD mode) with Premiere Elements 7 and also (via a friend who works for Adobe) Premiere Pro 4 (CS4?), and the H.264 files seem to edit fine.

You can get Premiere Elements 7 on Amazon for $63.00.

the chemist · 07-13-2009, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisMag

I had a defective one. Their service was very good.

Recommend next time looping the leash through something fixed to the bike, just in case.

Yea, thought about that afterward. The only problem is there's nothing near my mount to loop it through. Figured ill just drill two holes in the bodywork, put a zip tie through and then put the leash around that.

cascaderider · 07-13-2009, 10:04 PM

Wow. That's awesome. I'm very happy with mine.

88dx · 07-13-2009, 10:10 PM

Did you find anyway to cut down on the wind noise? I only used mine 3 times but even with 4 layers of tape all I can hear is wind at speed.

http://www.vholdr.com/node/34691

ChrisMag · 07-13-2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by 88dx

Did you find anyway to cut down on the wind noise? I only used mine 3 times but even with 4 layers of tape all I can hear is wind at speed.

http://www.vholdr.com/node/34691

I think I read that the firmware update improves it, perhaps via less mic gain. I noticed my replacement is super insensitive.

rowlex · 07-13-2009, 10:54 PM

you said the velcro came off? so did the double sided tape mount stay on? When I installed mine i attached the tether cord to that mount.

OOk · 07-13-2009, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by the chemist

.so I look down to my mount and guess what...there is no camera there. I pull off and tell the marshal, go pick it up after the session...the attaching velcro came undone in the middle of the session and my camera fell off....blowing apart.

Duct tape, bro. It's a cameraman's safety wire. Srsly. I always have 1 or 2 roll's in the pits with me. Everything I put on the bike is double duct taped.

coastiepete · 07-13-2009, 11:11 PM

That's cool they took care of you. As i have been thinking about getting one, i was wondering how you think it would hold up in the sand? like while riding the dunes?

Heavenz11 · 07-13-2009, 11:21 PM

WTF? I didn't see Moaka riding a motard! damn it i Missed it! lol.. who's bike did he use? oh and sorry about your camera

dammyneckhurts · 07-13-2009, 11:33 PM

Their customer service is amazing, probably some of the best I have seen of any company. I had problems with mine and they sent me a brand new one and I havent even opened the box yet, still has the factory seal on it. Anyone want to buy it? It's not the latest HD version but the one prior to that.
I am in BC Canada....

GixxerTek · 07-14-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by the chemist

So I bought a VholdR about two weeks ago and was excited to get some on track video. I finally got to test it out this weekend at Nesba after I installed it.

Hmm

fixed for you!!!!

So they warranty you installing something huh?

Maybe Yoshimura will warranty that muffler of yours also.

Avboden · 07-14-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMag

You can get Premiere Elements 7 on Amazon for $63.00.

I just puked in my mouth a little. Tell me your joking about using that program?

Motophotog · 07-14-2009, 07:24 AM

Very cool. Great news!

cobra525 · 07-14-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by the chemist

Figured ill just drill two holes in the bodywork, put a zip tie through and then put the leash around that.

We did that from the get go, to avoid your exact problem. Glad they are taking care of you.

wsmc831 · 07-14-2009, 08:13 AM

Three of us bought ContourHD's for a long trip a couple weeks back, they come with a clip link on a string to prevent this from happening.

vagrant · 07-14-2009, 08:21 AM

Sorry dood. I hope this isn't my fault showing you how to disconnect and rotate the inner mount from the outer. Frankly, I am amazed they warrantied that for you. Another thumbs up. As others have said, tether to the mount/bike and duct tape. As you saw, I did away with using the mounts altogether and went the foam plus duct tape approach. Worked very well on one camera. On the other.....

So, I bought two of these and have been trialing the first one for two weeks with growing concern. I was getting absolutely terrible video capture. For two weeks I thought it was a combination of my poor mounting skills and their dodgy mount. On Saturday, I said F it and duct taped (with foam for vibration damping) both to the bike and went out. Well, my batteries died pretty quickly but the footage I did get showed fantastic footage (relatively speaking) on the camera I hadn't used yet, and shitty footage on the one I had been trialing.

Long story "short", VoldR told me this morning they were happy to replace the dodgy camera under warranty based on the footage I uploaded. Sweet. Very happy with their post-sale support so far.

I also learned a lesson about gearing at PR on Saturday. I was tapped out at ~163ish (according to gearing calcs not speedo) on the front straight. Tons more torque though

Originally Posted by GixxerTek

Maybe Yoshimura will warranty that muffler of yours also.

Next time remember to put the stuffing in the turkey before sewing it up.

raephell · 07-14-2009, 09:02 AM

Wow...must have been a day for camera's falling off! My gopro randomly just fell off that day. I so wish i was recording when it did. Stayed on all the way from albertsons in north seattle to new castle (suction cup mount lower front facing back) and then on the way down the hill to the beach it just fell off. I happen to see my buddy behind me pull over and it didn't even cross my mind until i saw him holding it. Just a scratch, still works

makotosun · 07-14-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by OOk

Duct tape, bro. It's a cameraman's safety wire. Srsly. I always have 1 or 2 roll's in the pits with me. Everything I put on the bike is double duct taped.

Another choice with less residue on your paint is Gaffers Tape. It is the stuff that pro camera folks use by the case.

Gaffer's Tape

Available in a variety of colors too

eric · 07-14-2009, 11:32 AM

I had one fly off my bike at well over 100mph and it bounced down the road for about 1/4 mile. I lost the memory card and battery but it still worked.

the chemist · 07-14-2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by GixxerTek

Hmm

fixed for you!!!!

So they warranty you installing something huh?

Maybe Yoshimura will warranty that muffler of yours also.

hey, i had it installed well before the track

and it wasn't the instal they were covering. because the actual mount is still on the bike. there is a connector between the mount and the actual camera, that the camera slides onto and then velcros onto the mount. that is what came off.

Originally Posted by vagrant

Sorry dood. I hope this isn't my fault showing you how to disconnect and rotate the inner mount from the outer. Frankly, I am amazed they warrantied that for you.

Next time remember to put the stuffing in the turkey before sewing it up.

I'm thinking it had a lot to do with how much my bike vibrates. So no, its not your fault for showing me lol. And yea, I was very surprised as well.

Hey, when you cook thanksgiving for the first time, you gotta learn by trial and error. Sometimes the turkey gets burnt...so next time you know how to fix it

88dx · 07-14-2009, 11:30 PM

what do you guys use to edit your vids?

MCA8690 · 07-15-2009, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by 88dx

what do you guys use to edit your vids?

I'm using a 30-day free trial of V9.0 Sony Vegas (per a recommendation from vholdr forum), and have been really pleased with it so far.
Seems like one of those programs where the BASICS (i.e., adding music, chopping/splicing vids, fast forward/slow-mo, subtitles, transition effects) are really easy to do, but there's a bunch of more advanced options for those who are uber-geek.
The biggest draw to this program, from what i can gather, is that it's designed specifically FOR editing HD videos, so there's relatively minimal loss during the conversion process. I can't tell the difference on a widescreen TV from my "processed" clips and the HD originals..

BTW I did a 1/2 trackday today with PSSR, and took a gamble on "The Wind Noise Problem" by actually mounting my ContourHD.....
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in the ram air intake.

Result?
BEST audio I've ever gotten out of this unit at speed

I'll have a video up later today (Wed.), but seriously the audio kicked ass. I'm still kinda dumbfounded. All I did was put 1 layer of electrical tape over the mic hole, then mounted 'er smack dab in the middle of my intake...!

ChrisMag · 07-15-2009, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Avboden

I just puked in my mouth a little. Tell me your joking about using that program?

I use Production Studio, but I did play with the trial version of Elements 7, and I liked it. have you tried it, or are you basing your opinion on the original version (which did suck balls)?

wsmc831 · 07-15-2009, 08:44 AM

I tried Vegas Pro, was much more than I needed. Cyberlink Power Director fit the bill as it does AVHC which my handheld HD cam is, still does the ContourHD just fine. Less than 100 bucks...but you better have a serious PC to handle editing HD.

MCA8690 · 07-15-2009, 12:15 PM

HERE IS THE VIDEO

that i was talking about, shot yesterday at PIR.
please ignore my shitty clutchless upshifts, still learning....
great audio for being mounted in the ram air intake, IMO!!

vagrant · 07-15-2009, 12:48 PM

Amazing sound MCA. Would you mind posting a pic of the mount setup?

MCA8690 · 07-16-2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by vagrant

Amazing sound MCA. Would you mind posting a pic of the mount setup?

All i got from the day, and ya gotta squint.
Again, I just mounted it in the ram air intake via 3M adhesive mount, zip-tied to ram air "grill."
Piece of electrical tape covering the mic hole, as well.

Please note that it's a ContourHD.

the chemist · 08-06-2009, 02:19 AM

so a couple days ago i got my box from vholdr. (took so long due to me forgetting to ship it out). I told them "the battery was destroyed and the card fell out...i plan on buying new ones" because they asked me to ship those back with the camera. they told me that it wouldnt be a problem. so i open my package today expecting to get a new/fixed camera. no.

new everything. battery, memory card, camera, 3m adhesive mount. brand new sealed package. vholdr is amazing.

shelbyguy · 08-06-2009, 02:31 AM

and ur up past ur bed time.

reported

odin544 · 08-10-2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by the chemist

so a couple days ago i got my box from vholdr. (took so long due to me forgetting to ship it out). I told them "the battery was destroyed and the card fell out...i plan on buying new ones" because they asked me to ship those back with the camera. they told me that it wouldnt be a problem. so i open my package today expecting to get a new/fixed camera. no.

new everything. battery, memory card, camera, 3m adhesive mount. brand new sealed package. vholdr is amazing.

Glad to see they took care of you. I'll be contacting them today about the same thing. I lost 2 ContourHD's this weekend. Lost the first one in Saturdays race. I had the tether attached though so it just skipped around on the pavement through every corner. I'm amazed I wasn't black flagged. But I didn't notice it had come off the mount. Then I mounted a brand new one on the tail of my bike and it came off in practice Sunday. I safety wired and duct taped another new one on for the race Sunday and didnt have an issue. I did see how Mike M had his mounted though. Very good idea. Using the goggle mount and zip tie it to the bike. No velcro to fail! With the way they slide onto the mount I dont see the need for the velcro in the first place?

evil_dave · 08-10-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by odin544

Glad to see they took care of you. I'll be contacting them today about the same thing. I lost 2 ContourHD's this weekend. Lost the first one in Saturdays race. I had the tether attached though so it just skipped around on the pavement through every corner. I'm amazed I wasn't black flagged. But I didn't notice it had come off the mount. Then I mounted a brand new one on the tail of my bike and it came off in practice Sunday. I safety wired and duct taped another new one on for the race Sunday and didnt have an issue. I did see how Mike M had his mounted though. Very good idea. Using the goggle mount and zip tie it to the bike. No velcro to fail! With the way they slide onto the mount I dont see the need for the velcro in the first place?

Ahhhh so that was YOU?! I heard about that. I got there late, but I guess you were a topic of discussion at the riders meeting...

Any cool video to show for it?

odin544 · 08-16-2009, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by evil_dave

Ahhhh so that was YOU?! I heard about that. I got there late, but I guess you were a topic of discussion at the riders meeting...

Any cool video to show for it?

Nope, lost the battery and SD card. I didn't hear it mentioned at the riders meeting?

oh wait I showed up a few minutes late for Sundays meeting too. It sure wont happen again though. I don't trust their mounts anymore.

I cant seem to get anyone from VholdR to contact me about it.

No reply to emails or phone calls.

motostunter · 08-18-2009, 08:40 AM

After reading this thread, I decided to hook the leash for my Vholdr to my fairing, and pur a zip tie through the clip. Well, the camera fell off of the mount while at the track. No worries, I had it mounted to the fairing, and a zip tie through the clip right? Wrong, the clip broke! Now, my camera is laying somewhere around PIR, with some good video of me dicing it up with an R1. Guess it is time to get the contourHD

cal_look_zero · 08-18-2009, 09:22 AM

I have a method I used on a friend's vholdr that ELIMINATES wind noise, and won't cost more than $3 or so. I bought a chunk of felt like you would see on a subwoofer box, wrapped the entire camera, save for the lens, mounting slot, and on/off controls, and electrical taped it all on there. Looks kinda goofy, but it works great. I'll try and upload a pic or video.

Cadco · 08-18-2009, 09:30 AM

I heard similar stories about the VholdR customer service. They take care of their customers. I know which camera I am going to buy next. VholdR ContourHD for sure.

odin544 · 08-18-2009, 12:09 PM

I finally got ahold of their customer service yesterday. They asked me to send some pics of the camera and said it would probably just be replaced. So now I'm just waiting for them to figure out what they want to do.

odin544 · 08-21-2009, 01:03 AM

well 3 days and no word from VholdR. I guess I'll be spending my time tomorrow trying to call them since they cant do what they say they will do. Pretty piss poor customer service if you ask me.


07-13-2009, 09:57 PM	#1
the chemist ducatiduane Joined: Feb 2007 From: Cheney I Ride: but not on the street.	VholdR rant/rave So I bought a VholdR about two weeks ago and was excited to get some on track video. I finally got to test it out this weekend at Nesba. Well, Saturday I recorded two sessions before I had a mechanical that put me out for the day. Got the video off the camera and was ready to go for sunday. After recording two sessions sunday morning I decided to put them on my computer and wipe the memory. I go out for the third session and I'm following Moaka (who's on a motard). Getting really good footage of him sliding it into 3, 9, 2, etc. After about 5 laps we come out of turn two and he sticks his foot out. I move over slightly and see something laying in the middle of the track. WTF? That looks like a camera...so I look down to my mount and guess what...there is no camera there. I pull off and tell the marshal, go pick it up after the session...the attaching velcro came undone in the middle of the session and my camera fell off....blowing apart. I was a little mad about losing the footage and the brand new camera. Yea...four sessions out of it before the stupid thing fell off..... So today, I email VholdR telling them what happened and asking if there was anything we could do. I expect them to say that they're sorry but there's nothing they could do since its not a proven flaw etc etc. MAYBE get one for a discount Instead, I get an email that basically says "we will of course cover it under the warranty. email us your full name, address, phone number and serial number and we'll get the exchange started. " Just wanted to let everyone know, because I dont think I've ever got such great customer service. Of course, I havent actually gotten the exchange yet. But, I feel its defiantly worth letting people know about. My recommendations to ANYONE on the fence about a camera from VholdR __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 10:00 PM	#2
ChrisMag Endorsed Joined: Apr 2009 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 2007 KTM Super Duke	I had a defective one. Their service was very good. Recommend next time looping the leash through something fixed to the bike, just in case. By the way, I tested the Contour HD clips (both 720p and the 60fps SD mode) with Premiere Elements 7 and also (via a friend who works for Adobe) Premiere Pro 4 (CS4?), and the H.264 files seem to edit fine. You can get Premiere Elements 7 on Amazon for $63.00. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by ChrisMag; 07-13-2009 at 10:04 PM..


07-13-2009, 10:04 PM	#4
cascaderider Moderator Joined: Mar 2008 From: Roseburg, OR I Ride: to be determined	Wow. That's awesome. I'm very happy with mine. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 10:10 PM	#5
88dx WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jan 2008 From: Bellingham I Ride: On the sidewalk	Did you find anyway to cut down on the wind noise? I only used mine 3 times but even with 4 layers of tape all I can hear is wind at speed. http://www.vholdr.com/node/34691 __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 10:54 PM	#7
rowlex MotoGP Contender Joined: Apr 2006 From: everett I Ride: 01 929RR	you said the velcro came off? so did the double sided tape mount stay on? When I installed mine i attached the tether cord to that mount. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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07-13-2009, 11:11 PM	#9
coastiepete Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Port Angeles WA I Ride: 2007 ZX-10R SE, 2005 450 EXC, 1980 GS750 Cafe Project	That's cool they took care of you. As i have been thinking about getting one, i was wondering how you think it would hold up in the sand? like while riding the dunes? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 11:21 PM	#10
Heavenz11 Endorsed Joined: Apr 2008 From: Puyallup, WA I Ride: mongoose	WTF? I didn't see Moaka riding a motard! damn it i Missed it! lol.. who's bike did he use? oh and sorry about your camera __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-13-2009, 11:33 PM	#11
dammyneckhurts Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 From: Whistler BC	Their customer service is amazing, probably some of the best I have seen of any company. I had problems with mine and they sent me a brand new one and I havent even opened the box yet, still has the factory seal on it. Anyone want to buy it? It's not the latest HD version but the one prior to that. I am in BC Canada.... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 07:24 AM	#14
Motophotog Retired Joined: Jun 2006 From: Federal Way I Ride: KTM Supermoto, Plated YZ426 Supermoto, 74 Suzuki GT250 Hustler, Yamaha GT80	Very cool. Great news! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 08:13 AM	#16
wsmc831 WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jan 2008 From: Los Gatos I Ride: TL-s, KTM 300, 690 Duke	Three of us bought ContourHD's for a long trip a couple weeks back, they come with a clip link on a string to prevent this from happening. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 09:02 AM	#18
raephell Pit Crew Joined: Mar 2008 From: Seattle I Ride: Suzuki GSX-R600K7	Wow...must have been a day for camera's falling off! My gopro randomly just fell off that day. I so wish i was recording when it did. Stayed on all the way from albertsons in north seattle to new castle (suction cup mount lower front facing back) and then on the way down the hill to the beach it just fell off. I happen to see my buddy behind me pull over and it didn't even cross my mind until i saw him holding it. Just a scratch, still works __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 11:32 AM	#20
eric Slow Eric Joined: Mar 2006 From: Seattle Blog Entries: 6 I Ride: Street: Bike #1 Track: Bike #2	I had one fly off my bike at well over 100mph and it bounced down the road for about 1/4 mile. I lost the memory card and battery but it still worked. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-14-2009, 11:30 PM	#22
88dx WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jan 2008 From: Bellingham I Ride: On the sidewalk	what do you guys use to edit your vids? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-15-2009, 08:44 AM	#25
wsmc831 WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Jan 2008 From: Los Gatos I Ride: TL-s, KTM 300, 690 Duke	I tried Vegas Pro, was much more than I needed. Cyberlink Power Director fit the bill as it does AVHC which my handheld HD cam is, still does the ContourHD just fine. Less than 100 bucks...but you better have a serious PC to handle editing HD. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-15-2009, 12:15 PM	#26
MCA8690 McLovin' Joined: Sep 2007 From: PDX.....Tempe? I Ride: faster than Djoplin riding 1-up	HERE IS THE VIDEO that i was talking about, shot yesterday at PIR. please ignore my shitty clutchless upshifts, still learning.... great audio for being mounted in the ram air intake, IMO!! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-15-2009, 12:48 PM	#27
vagrant Superbiker Joined: Mar 2008 From: Seattle, WA	Amazing sound MCA. Would you mind posting a pic of the mount setup? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-06-2009, 02:19 AM	#29
the chemist ducatiduane Joined: Feb 2007 From: Cheney I Ride: but not on the street.	so a couple days ago i got my box from vholdr. (took so long due to me forgetting to ship it out). I told them "the battery was destroyed and the card fell out...i plan on buying new ones" because they asked me to ship those back with the camera. they told me that it wouldnt be a problem. so i open my package today expecting to get a new/fixed camera. no. new everything. battery, memory card, camera, 3m adhesive mount. brand new sealed package. vholdr is amazing. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-06-2009, 02:31 AM	#30
shelbyguy Picture Whore Joined: Apr 2008 From: TACOMA / 253 I Ride: my bikes...and all my friends bikes lately	and ur up past ur bed time. reported __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-18-2009, 08:40 AM	#34
motostunter Zone Head Joined: Aug 2006 From: Portland, Or (Bethany) I Ride: 03 636	After reading this thread, I decided to hook the leash for my Vholdr to my fairing, and pur a zip tie through the clip. Well, the camera fell off of the mount while at the track. No worries, I had it mounted to the fairing, and a zip tie through the clip right? Wrong, the clip broke! Now, my camera is laying somewhere around PIR, with some good video of me dicing it up with an R1. Guess it is time to get the contourHD __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-18-2009, 09:22 AM	#35
cal_look_zero Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2008 From: Medford, OR I Ride: my 2006 CBR600RR like a friggin pansy	I have a method I used on a friend's vholdr that ELIMINATES wind noise, and won't cost more than $3 or so. I bought a chunk of felt like you would see on a subwoofer box, wrapped the entire camera, save for the lens, mounting slot, and on/off controls, and electrical taped it all on there. Looks kinda goofy, but it works great. I'll try and upload a pic or video. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-18-2009, 09:30 AM	#36
Cadco Training Wheels Joined: May 2009 From: Vancouver, WA I Ride: 2007 Suzuki GSX-R600 K7 Matte Black/Black	I heard similar stories about the VholdR customer service. They take care of their customers. I know which camera I am going to buy next. VholdR ContourHD for sure. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-18-2009, 12:09 PM	#37
odin544 Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Kennewick, Washington I Ride: '08 Ducati 848 street , '03 R6 track bike	I finally got ahold of their customer service yesterday. They asked me to send some pics of the camera and said it would probably just be replaced. So now I'm just waiting for them to figure out what they want to do. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-21-2009, 01:03 AM	#38
odin544 Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Kennewick, Washington I Ride: '08 Ducati 848 street , '03 R6 track bike	well 3 days and no word from VholdR. I guess I'll be spending my time tomorrow trying to call them since they cant do what they say they will do. Pretty piss poor customer service if you ask me. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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