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GS1200 · 11-03-2009, 07:30 PM

Occasionally I have to haul my bike in my pickup or on the flat bed trailer. I use 4 ratchet type cargo straps. I get nervous doing it this way as I have to leave my tail gate down on the truck and the flat bed (car trailer) has no sides. I noticed some guys use a device that holds and locks in the front tire. That might work for me as I could transfer it between the truck and trailer.

What is the most secure way to transfer a bike?

KevinD · 11-03-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by GS1200

I use 4 ratchet type cargo straps.

I normally use 6 straps: two big ones (one at each end) and 4 smaller ones (one on each corner for stability), and I've not had any problems over thousands of miles.

KevinD

xrdotimcr · 11-03-2009, 07:51 PM

Haul? A bike? Designed to ride on the street?

Foreign concept. =)

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by GS1200

Occasionally I have to haul my bike in my pickup or on the flat bed trailer. I use 4 ratchet type cargo straps. I get nervous doing it this way as I have to leave my tail gate down on the truck and the flat bed (car trailer) has no sides. I noticed some guys use a device that holds and locks in the front tire. That might work for me as I could transfer it between the truck and trailer.

What is the most secure way to transfer a bike?

Are you worried about the tires slipping out from under? or the bike falling over and having nothing to keep it from falling out?

varment · 11-03-2009, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by GS1200

What is the most secure way to transfer a bike?

Ride it....

Debi · 11-03-2009, 08:04 PM

I use 3 straps and that's it...all is good.....the straps are not the ratchet type

Click · 11-03-2009, 08:06 PM

I've hauled a lot of bikes with only two straps. One on each bar holding it to the front of the truck bed. Dirt bikes and street bikes. Had three dirt bikes at one time in the truck once. One time, went down to Az with a TL1000 and VFR strapped in the back of the truck with two straps each. Was working on a drag boat team and went down for the finals. Go rained out so didn't get to ride. Came back, stopped in Truckee for dinner, then took off at night hitting triple digit speeds in the truck trying to get to Roseburg. Bikes didn't move. Never had a problem.

odin544 · 11-03-2009, 08:11 PM

I use 2. you dont need anymore. Unless your driving like a fucking idiot.

midvalleysuperbiker · 11-03-2009, 08:59 PM

I use a Baxley Sport Chock with 2 straps in front and 2 in back to keep the rear from moving around over bumps.

Once you use a Baxley you will wonder how you were ever able to do without it.

Whitefire · 11-03-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by GS1200

I noticed some guys use a device that holds and locks in the front tire. That might work for me as I could transfer it between the truck and trailer.

Originally Posted by midvalleysuperbiker

I use a Baxley Sport Chock...

Once you use a Baxley you will wonder how you were ever able to do without it.

If you want a Baxley Chock, get a hold of GixxerTek & see if he has any left.

Wheels Chocks

Faron@GixxerTek.com
253.234.4797

KevinD · 11-03-2009, 09:18 PM

I guess I use a bunch of straps because I don't want the bike moving around on the flatbed trailer, and straps are cheap. I trailered 4 big scooters up from CA without incident.
The furthest I've trailered a bike was down to ~ 100 mi. SE of Houston; I was driving the motorhome down there for a 3-month job, and wanted local transportation. Sometimes there's a good reason you can't ride everywhere.
KevinD

james1300 · 11-03-2009, 09:18 PM

Harbor freight sells several chocks to choose from.
That being said I LOVE my Baxley.
I use a Canyon Dancer tie down with plastic cups to fit over the handelbar ends.
I use 4, 2" wide H.D. tie downs.
I have hauled anything form 50cc's to 1300 cc's without any trouble.

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by james1300

Harbor freight sells several chocks to choose from.
That being said I LOVE my Baxley.
I use a Canyon Dancer tie down with plastic cups to fit over the handelbar ends.
I use 4, 2" wide H.D. tie downs.
I have hauled anything form 50cc's to 1300 cc's without any trouble.

I hate canyon dancers
every time i use them, i need to replace my grips
the side force always pulls my throttle grip in, wedging it against the start/kill switch.

Can you further explain the plastic cup thing? does it negate the grip damage?

ckholloway · 11-03-2009, 09:29 PM

I use a canyon dancer (because of plastics) and 2 motorcycle tie downs up front and to off the grab just for my own piece of mind. I have never had any problems either and also have hauled everything from 50cc to 1300cc both in the bed of the pickup and on the flat bed. Make sure you get the straps up front good and tight but not so tight that you blow out the fork seals.

Outofsync · 11-03-2009, 09:30 PM

Holy hell 4, 6 straps? Are you kidding?

You need 2 straps... MAYBE 3.... You need to compress the front and it will not move...I am sure there are some videos on youtube is your having disfunctions.... But seriously.. 2 straps...

ckholloway · 11-03-2009, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

I hate canyon dancers
every time i use them, i need to replace my grips
the side force always pulls my throttle grip in, wedging it against the start/kill switch.

Can you further explain the plastic cup thing? does it negate the grip damage?

The plastic cup type he is talking about is the newer design canyon dancer. I have heard of that problem using the older design before but I have never had any problem with mine and have used it on many motorcycles

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by ckholloway

The plastic cup type he is talking about is the newer design canyon dancer. I have heard of that problem using the older design before but I have never had any problem with mine and have used it on many motorcycles

Ahhh, I see. I will look into them. i gave my old one away cause it sucked so bad. i figured out a way to use 4 soft extension loops with ratchet straps on my bike. it works perfect, and doesn't hit the fairings at all.

james1300 · 11-03-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

I hate canyon dancers
every time i use them, i need to replace my grips
the side force always pulls my throttle grip in, wedging it against the start/kill switch.

Can you further explain the plastic cup thing? does it negate the grip damage?

Thats why I use the plastic cup models. No trouble with them!
The cups fit over the ends of the bars and the grips are not hurt.
Canyon Dancer II's

LINK>>>http://www.canyondancer.com/Barharn2.aspx

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by james1300

Thats why I use the plastic cup models. No trouble with them!
The cups fit over the ends of the bars and the grips are not hurt.
Canyon Dancer II's

LINK>>>http://www.canyondancer.com/Barharn2.aspx

See why i love this place? learn something new everyday! thanks!

odin544 · 11-03-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by james1300

Thats why I use the plastic cup models. No trouble with them!
The cups fit over the ends of the bars and the grips are not hurt.
Canyon Dancer II's

the plastic cup ones like james is talking about are the only canyon dancers I would consider using. The old ones suck. I use cycle cynch and love them.
http://www.cyclecynch.com/index.html

ckholloway · 11-03-2009, 09:45 PM

Why does everyone have so much trouble with the original. I am not saying I am better then anyone else by any stretch of the imagination but I have had zero problems with mine. Have I just been lucky over the past several years?

james1300 · 11-03-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by ckholloway

Why does everyone have so much trouble with the original. I am not saying I am better then anyone else by any stretch of the imagination but I have had zero problems with mine. Have I just been lucky over the past several years?

The older style had a tendency to roll the softer material grips on a couple of my bikes.
Pulling the grip in-board and away from the bar end.
There no chance of this happening with the newer cup design.

ckholloway · 11-03-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by james1300

The older style had a tendency to roll the softer material grips on a couple of my bikes.
Pulling the grip in-board and away from the bar end.
There no chance of this happening with the newer cup design.

Oh sure I understand that part of it and if I was to go buy one today I would buy nothing less then the newer one. What I am asking is, Am I the only person that has not had problems with the strap type. I would replace it if I had but why fix what aint broken. I will make shit up thats broke on the bike so momma doesn't mind when new parts show up from the brown truck, but to go blow 40 bones on a new canyon dancer when I have never had problems with the old one??? MMMMMM i don't think thats gonna happen. I know you gotta be right cause I have heard about that happening to alot of guys that have used the strap type but not to I.

GS1200 · 11-03-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Whitefire

If you want a Baxley Chock, get a hold of GixxerTek & see if he has any left.

Wheels Chocks

Faron@GixxerTek.com
253.234.4797

That is exactly what I had in mine. Thanks

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by ckholloway

Oh sure I understand that part of it and if I was to go buy one today I would buy nothing less then the newer one. What I am asking is, Am I the only person that has not had problems with the strap type. I would replace it if I had but why fix what aint broken. I will make shit up thats broke on the bike so momma doesn't mind when new parts show up from the brown truck, but to go blow 40 bones on a new canyon dancer when I have never had problems with the old one??? MMMMMM i don't think thats gonna happen. I know you gotta be right cause I have heard about that happening to alot of guys that have used the strap type but not to I.

I just read through the FAQ's on the canyon dancer website. It seemed to be a be a hot topic on there. maybe if yours was ummmm.........frayed in one section you would need a new one? like maybe if a razor blade or pair of scissors rubbed on a piece of webbing? and if she's reading this.........Then definitely don't tell her i told you

odin544 · 11-03-2009, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by midvalleysuperbiker

I use a Baxley Sport Chock with 2 straps in front and 2 in back to keep the rear from moving around over bumps.

Once you use a Baxley you will wonder how you were ever able to do without it.

A baxley is a waist of money in the back of a truck. It does NOTHING. The tie downs hold the bike upright.

Outofsync · 11-03-2009, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by odin544

A baxley is a waist of money in the back of a truck. It does NOTHING. The tie downs hold the bike upright.

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Those wheel chocks are great for stationary situations and MAYBE a trailer... Not for anything else IMO... You still have to strap the bike... And if you do THAT right... Your wheel is not going anywhere..

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Outofsync

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Those wheel chocks are great for stationary situations and MAYBE a trailer... Not for anything else IMO... You still have to strap the bike... And if you do THAT right... Your wheel is not going anywhere..

Especially in a truck bed. just put the tires in the channels molded into the bed.

I can see the concern if it's a wood or smooth metal deck trailer though. that stuff can get a bit slippery. Maybe in an erratic movement the tire could slide sideways on the surface? i said MAYBE

chadbobb · 11-03-2009, 10:55 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motor...Q5fAccessories

Would any of you guys trust this? I am almost interested in trying it

coastiepete · 11-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by chadbobb

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motor...Q5fAccessories

Would any of you guys trust this? I am almost interested in trying it

Would I trust the devices ability to hold the front wheel up, yes. would i want my back wheel, chain, and front sprocket spinning all the time? No
Would i want the added wear on the rear tire? No. for a tire that only lasts 3-4k miles, and costs nearly 300 bucks, every mile counts

KevinD · 11-03-2009, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by chadbobb

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motor...Q5fAccessories

Would any of you guys trust this? I am almost interested in trying it

I think it'd put unnecessary wear & tear on the final drive.

KevinD

Outofsync · 11-03-2009, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by chadbobb

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motor...Q5fAccessories

Would any of you guys trust this? I am almost interested in trying it

WTF are those straps attached to?

Outofsync · 11-03-2009, 11:05 PM

WTF?

"Will this type of towing affect my odometer reading?

Most odometers function in conjunction with the front tire. Because the front tire is elevated while in tow, the odometer does not register any additional mileage. That being said, there are exceptions to any rule, so please refer to your owner’s manual or contact the manufacturer with regards to your bike."

chadbobb · 11-03-2009, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

Would I trust the devices ability to hold the front wheel up, yes. would i want my back wheel, chain, and front sprocket spinning all the time? No
Would i want the added wear on the rear tire? No. for a tire that only lasts 3-4k miles, and costs nearly 300 bucks, every mile counts

This is true. My honda nighthawk 250 probably would be ok. The tires last a very long time on that lightweight bike.

If only it was easy to remove the chain temporarily

chadbobb · 11-03-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Outofsync

WTF

Will this type of towing affect my odometer reading?

"Most odometers function in conjunction with the front tire. Because the front tire is elevated while in tow, the odometer does not register any additional mileage. That being said, there are exceptions to any rule, so please refer to your owner’s manual or contact the manufacturer with regards to your bike."

That's how my honda nighthawk is.. No idea on my seca II though, just bought the thing.

Outofsync · 11-03-2009, 11:09 PM

^^^Most sportbikes do NOT work this way....^

KevinD · 11-03-2009, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Outofsync

^^^Most sportbikes do NOT work this way....^

Most newer sport bikes, anyway. The EFI system monitors final output speed, so that pulse is also used to drive the speedometer.
That being said, the speedometer/odometer won't register unless the ignition is switched on.

KevinD

OOk · 11-03-2009, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by midvalleysuperbiker

I use a Baxley Sport Chock with 2 straps in front and 2 in back to keep the rear from moving around over bumps.

Once you use a Baxley you will wonder how you were ever able to do without it.

I actually have condor wheel chocks mounted on my trailer but the baxley works even better too. It has a locking mech that keeps the wheel chock pivot from letting the bike role back. Protip: make sure to keep the bike in gear when trailering too.

Baxley > Condor (but in my defense I didn't know about Baxley when I got my Condor chocks. I have a Baxley for pit doody now tho.)

"Once you go Baxley, you will never go back-slee."

(It's the vodka that makes me hilarious)

Outofsync · 11-03-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by KevinD

Most newer sport bikes, anyway. The EFI system monitors final output speed, so that pulse is also used to drive the speedometer.
That being said, the speedometer/odometer won't register unless the ignition is switched on.

KevinD

True.... Still wondering about those straps though....

chadbobb · 11-03-2009, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Outofsync

True.... Still wondering about those straps though....

are you talking about how they attach to the bike or to the towing mechanism?


11-03-2009, 07:30 PM	#1
GS1200 Training Wheels Joined: Sep 2009 From: Zillah I Ride: BMW 1200GS, Buell XB12XT	Hauling a motorcycle Occasionally I have to haul my bike in my pickup or on the flat bed trailer. I use 4 ratchet type cargo straps. I get nervous doing it this way as I have to leave my tail gate down on the truck and the flat bed (car trailer) has no sides. I noticed some guys use a device that holds and locks in the front tire. That might work for me as I could transfer it between the truck and trailer. What is the most secure way to transfer a bike? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 07:51 PM	#3
xrdotimcr WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Dec 2007 From: 92109 I Ride: therefore I am.	Haul? A bike? Designed to ride on the street? Foreign concept. =) __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 08:04 PM	#6
Debi Endorsed Joined: Apr 2009 From: Renton, WA I Ride: 2005 Suzuki DRZ400SM and 2003 GasGas EC250	I use 3 straps and that's it...all is good.....the straps are not the ratchet type __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 08:06 PM	#7
Click WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Aug 2007 From: Burien, Wa I Ride: I just keep it in the garage and make the neighbors think I ride	I've hauled a lot of bikes with only two straps. One on each bar holding it to the front of the truck bed. Dirt bikes and street bikes. Had three dirt bikes at one time in the truck once. One time, went down to Az with a TL1000 and VFR strapped in the back of the truck with two straps each. Was working on a drag boat team and went down for the finals. Go rained out so didn't get to ride. Came back, stopped in Truckee for dinner, then took off at night hitting triple digit speeds in the truck trying to get to Roseburg. Bikes didn't move. Never had a problem. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 08:11 PM	#8
odin544 Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Kennewick, Washington I Ride: '08 Ducati 848 street , '03 R6 race (for sale), '07 R6 race	I use 2. you dont need anymore. Unless your driving like a fucking idiot. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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11-03-2009, 08:59 PM	#9
midvalleysuperbiker Streetfighter Joined: May 2008 From: South Salem Oregon I Ride: Aprilia Tuono, Ducati GT1000, Moto Guzzi Centauro, Bimota DB4, Yamaha FJR1300	I use a Baxley Sport Chock with 2 straps in front and 2 in back to keep the rear from moving around over bumps. Once you use a Baxley you will wonder how you were ever able to do without it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 09:18 PM	#11
KevinD Zone Head Joined: Mar 2009 From: Spokane Valley I Ride: Suzuki Boulevard C90, Honda CM250C, My Wife's Scooter	I guess I use a bunch of straps because I don't want the bike moving around on the flatbed trailer, and straps are cheap. I trailered 4 big scooters up from CA without incident. The furthest I've trailered a bike was down to ~ 100 mi. SE of Houston; I was driving the motorhome down there for a 3-month job, and wanted local transportation. Sometimes there's a good reason you can't ride everywhere. KevinD __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 09:18 PM	#12
james1300 Track School Dazed Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can	Harbor freight sells several chocks to choose from. That being said I LOVE my Baxley. I use a Canyon Dancer tie down with plastic cups to fit over the handelbar ends. I use 4, 2" wide H.D. tie downs. I have hauled anything form 50cc's to 1300 cc's without any trouble. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 09:29 PM	#14
ckholloway Training Wheels Joined: Sep 2009 From: Ontario, Oregon I Ride: Hayabusa	I use a canyon dancer (because of plastics) and 2 motorcycle tie downs up front and to off the grab just for my own piece of mind. I have never had any problems either and also have hauled everything from 50cc to 1300cc both in the bed of the pickup and on the flat bed. Make sure you get the straps up front good and tight but not so tight that you blow out the fork seals. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 09:30 PM	#15
Outofsync MotoGP Champion Joined: Apr 2006 From: Eeeveruutt I Ride: the bike that I am allowed to ride.. I dont own one... <-----Fail	Holy hell 4, 6 straps? Are you kidding? You need 2 straps... MAYBE 3.... You need to compress the front and it will not move...I am sure there are some videos on youtube is your having disfunctions.... But seriously.. 2 straps... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 09:45 PM	#21
ckholloway Training Wheels Joined: Sep 2009 From: Ontario, Oregon I Ride: Hayabusa	Why does everyone have so much trouble with the original. I am not saying I am better then anyone else by any stretch of the imagination but I have had zero problems with mine. Have I just been lucky over the past several years? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 10:55 PM	#29
chadbobb Training Wheels Joined: Feb 2008 From: Corvallis/Warrenton OR I Ride: 94 Seca II, 92 Honda Nighthawk 250	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motor...Q5fAccessories Would any of you guys trust this? I am almost interested in trying it __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-03-2009, 11:05 PM	#33
Outofsync MotoGP Champion Joined: Apr 2006 From: Eeeveruutt I Ride: the bike that I am allowed to ride.. I dont own one... <-----Fail	WTF? "Will this type of towing affect my odometer reading? Most odometers function in conjunction with the front tire. Because the front tire is elevated while in tow, the odometer does not register any additional mileage. That being said, there are exceptions to any rule, so please refer to your owner’s manual or contact the manufacturer with regards to your bike." __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Outofsync; 11-03-2009 at 11:07 PM..


11-03-2009, 11:09 PM	#36
Outofsync MotoGP Champion Joined: Apr 2006 From: Eeeveruutt I Ride: the bike that I am allowed to ride.. I dont own one... <-----Fail	^^^Most sportbikes do NOT work this way....^ __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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