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Pointman · 12-13-2008, 08:20 AM

b. No person shall stop, stand or park a motorcycle equipped with a straight pipe on a street in the city of New York.

h. (1) Any motorcycle or straight pipe seized pursuant to this section shall be delivered into the custody of the police department. Where a notice of violation has been served, a hearing to adjudicate the violation underlying the seizure shall be held before the environmental control board within five business days after the seizure and such board shall render a decision within five business days after the conclusion of the hearing. In the event that the environmental control board determines that there has been no violation, the motorcycle or straight pipe shall be released forthwith to the owner or any person authorized by the owner to take possession of such motorcycle or straight pipe.

(vi) The police department, after judicial determination of forfeiture of a straight pipe, shall destroy or dispose of such straight pipe.

BY FRANK LOMBARDI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, December 11th 2008, 2:18 AM

Vroooom that noisy motorcycle once too often and the city could own it.

In a new bid to stem motorcycle noise, the City Council is set to pass a bill requiring all bikes to sport tags certifying approval by the Environmental Protection Agency.

No EPA tag, you get a ticket, without the officials having to prove the bike exceeded the 80-decibel limit set by the city's noise code.

"Today we go a long way toward taking the squeal out of the hogs," said Peter Vallone (D-Queens), chairing a final bill hearing Wednesday in the Public Safety Committee.

Under the bill, expected to pass the full Council Dec. 18, a first conviction carries a maximum $1,000 fine and temporary confiscation until the penalty is paid.

A second conviction hikes the maximum fine to $2,500 and imposes permanent forfeiture.

NYPD Lt. Daniel Albano testified that existing laws require cops to catch noisy motorcyclists in the act, which is difficult and can entail potentially hazardous chases.

The new measure would let single officers on foot patrol - or other city agents - ticket parked motorcycles, he said.

It gives police "an extra tool to get at what is truly a serious problem," said Councilman Alan Gerson (D-Manhattan), who crafted the bill based on a law in use in Denver.

But biker Bill Ferraro, president of the Union Ironworkers Motorcycle Club, Local 580, testified that "it's unsafe for us to ride when the pipes are too low."

He also said the city can't close its budget gap "with confiscation of bikes and seizure."

flombardi@nydailynews.com

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DJ Nathan V · 12-13-2008, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Pointman

No EPA tag, you get a ticket, without the officials having to prove the bike exceeded the 80-decibel limit set by the city's noise code.

Transported · 12-13-2008, 08:34 AM

Cool. Bout time.

Too bad the assholes running straight pipes have now cost everyone with a motorcycle an unneccessary expense in having to purchase an EPA sticker. It's always the few who fuck the many.

Pointman · 12-13-2008, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Transported

Cool. Bout time.

Too bad the assholes running straight pipes have now cost everyone with a motorcycle an unneccessary expense in having to purchase an EPA sticker. It's always the few who fuck the many.

It's only beginning-

gixer_racer · 12-13-2008, 08:40 AM

Ouch. Looks like that would snag pretty much any bike without the stock pipe on it.

Also, how's your average foot patrol guy gonna tell a true straight pipe of a parked bike. I've seen some of the newer models with stock pipes that look pretty damn much like straight pipe but they are very quiet.

I'm guessing it will get challenged pretty fast too. Confiscation (along with massive impound fees) until the fine is paid?? Pretty crazy for a non violent, non harming crime. It will really suck for those traveling through that don't know about the local ordinance.

Transported · 12-13-2008, 08:55 AM

But, dammit, it's my Constitutional right to rattle windows, knock loose tooth fillings, halt all conversations and scramble the brain patterns of everyone within 100 yards of me when I ride my small-penis compensator!

gixer_racer · 12-13-2008, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Transported

But, dammit, it's my Constitutional right to rattle windows, knock loose teeth fillings, halt all conversations and scramble the brain patterns of everyone within 100 yards of me when I ride my small-penis compensator!

LOL I'm no fan of straight pipes by any means and not really even a fan of loud aftermarket pipes (although I admit, I did love the Sato Banzai's on my RC51). I'd be all for keeping the stock pipe if someone would produce a bike that had a stock pipe that didn't weigh a jillion pounds and looked decent. Some of the newer models with the stock shorties and underbelly pipes are getting there but still weigh a ton.

ninja-rida · 12-13-2008, 09:13 AM

Another revenue maker for ths state, how surprising

fastfoodfred · 12-13-2008, 09:46 AM

Here's my spin on noise pollution-there is none from vehicles. I want to point out that when a car or bike zooms by, it is gone in seconds or at the worst, minutes in heavy traffic. Noise is not like pouring red paint on the ground that will be there for years. It its too short term to bother calling it pollution.

Gamuru · 12-13-2008, 10:00 AM

A second conviction hikes the maximum fine to $2,500 and imposes permanent forfeiture.

Forfeiture of a motorcycle where the bike may be worth up to $30K-$40K for loud pipes? Yep, that's not extreme at all!

dc_sniper9130 · 12-13-2008, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

Here's my spin on noise pollution-there is none from vehicles. I want to point out that when a car or bike zooms by, it is gone in seconds or at the worst, minutes in heavy traffic. Noise is not like pouring red paint on the ground that will be there for years. It its too short term to bother calling it pollution.

i've always thought if you hate the city noise THAT much, then don't live there.

i'm not going to go on a personal rant about loud pipes saving lives, but it gets you noticed a thousand percent more than the little wimpy pussy horns most bikes come from the factory with.

DJ Nathan V · 12-13-2008, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by dc_sniper9130

i've always thought if you hate the city noise THAT much, then don't live there.

i'm not going to go on a personal rant about loud pipes saving lives, but it gets you noticed a thousand percent more than the little wimpy pussy horns most bikes come from the factory with.

No it doesn't. The moron that needs to notice you will either be in front or to the side and won't hear you hardly at all, even with loud pipes... and that's assuming they're not blasting a stereo. Loud pipes are just loud.

fastfoodfred · 12-13-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Gamuru

Forfeiture of a motorcycle where the bike may be worth up to $30K-$40K for loud pipes? Yep, that's not extreme at all!

it proves the point that it isn't about collecting money, but more to get people to not have loud motorcycles.

Runout · 12-13-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

Here's my spin on noise pollution-there is none from vehicles. I want to point out that when a car or bike zooms by, it is gone in seconds or at the worst, minutes in heavy traffic. Noise is not like pouring red paint on the ground that will be there for years. It its too short term to bother calling it pollution.

Someone hasn't been stuck in traffic in a big city before apparently.

Suzuki Stevo · 12-13-2008, 10:59 AM

Personally I left all but one of my pipes stock, because when I'm spoolin up and over 11,000 Rpm that last thing I want is to advertise to the BoysInBlu, but that's just me. The inability of one to make a personal choice, sucks much louder than any straight pipe.

I'm sure this is a repost...but it's still funny

midvalleysuperbiker · 12-13-2008, 11:40 AM

Chalk one up for the NYC traffic Nazis

Reason for all to be concerned.
If it happens there it can happen here.
Straight pipes first, aftermarket exhaust next. Then what??
What about the Akrapovic cans on my Aprilia or the Termis on my Ducati??

The traffic laws on Oregon are anal enough but I can see this happening here,
especially in Portland.

shelbyguy · 12-13-2008, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Pointman

"Today we go a long way toward taking the squeal out of the hogs

^^^ thats kinda funny right thur^^^

midvalleysuperbiker · 12-13-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by gixer_racer

Ouch.

I'm guessing it will get challenged pretty fast too. Confiscation (along with massive impound fees) until the fine is paid?? Pretty crazy for a non violent, non harming crime. It will really suck for those traveling through that don't know about the local ordinance.

In Portland your vehicle is automaticaly impounded for a variety of reasons.
Be careful when you say something to an attractive woman on the street, prostitution stings will get your vehicle impounded even if you are innocent.
DUII even if you blow a zero and the piss test comes back negative it will still cost you at least $500 to get your vehicle back and they can keep it as long as they want. On top of that it will cost you a minimum of $1200 for a lawyer to get the charge dismissed.

The Gestapo is alive and well in Portland!

DesmoDave · 12-13-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Suzuki Stevo

I'm sure this is a repost...but it's still funny

ROFL.

PulpComic · 12-13-2008, 02:52 PM

What a joke. I can't wait for the foot patrol officer to try and stop my R1. I chock this up to chicken shit and don't believe it will deter anyone. This is just another money grab considering the untold number of cars and trucks with aftermarket exhaust not to mention the diesel trucks with air brakes and such. I would hope New York would realize that regardless of noise scooters and motorcycles would greatly reduce congestion in the city.

the chemist · 12-13-2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Pointman

In a new bid to stem motorcycle noise, the City Council is set to pass a bill requiring all bikes to sport tags certifying approval by the Environmental Protection Agency.

No EPA tag, you get a ticket, without the officials having to prove the bike exceeded the 80-decibel limit set by the city's noise code.

The new measure would let single officers on foot patrol - or other city agents - ticket parked motorcycles, he said.

It gives police "an extra tool to get at what is truly a serious problem," said Councilman Alan Gerson

A serious problem? Wow, I'm going to move to NY, where I dont have to worry about robbery, murder, or auto theft. I really do want to live in a city where the major problems include motorcycles with pipes.

Originally Posted by Transported

It's always the few who fuck the many.

Lets not bring my ex girlfriend into this

Originally Posted by gixer_racer

Also, how's your average foot patrol guy gonna tell a true straight pipe of a parked bike.

I quoted it so you could re-read it. You have to get a sticker. No sticker. Ticket.

Originally Posted by Transported

But, dammit, it's my Constitutional right to rattle windows, knock loose tooth fillings, halt all conversations and scramble the brain patterns of everyone within 100 yards of me when I ride my small-penis compensator!

Quoted it so you could re-read it. 80 dB. I'm guessing your bike is over 80dB at some point.

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

Here's my spin on noise pollution-there is none from vehicles. I want to point out that when a car or bike zooms by, it is gone in seconds or at the worst, minutes in heavy traffic. Noise is not like pouring red paint on the ground that will be there for years. It its too short term to bother calling it pollution.

Originally Posted by Runout

Someone hasn't been stuck in traffic in a big city before apparently.

Because the loudest part of traffic is motorcycles? What about the semis? The buses? What about everything else?

Originally Posted by midvalleysuperbiker

Straight pipes first, aftermarket exhaust next. Then what??
What about the Akrapovic cans on my Aprilia or the Termis on my Ducati??

Not straight pipes first. All pipes over 80dB.

Originally Posted by PulpComic

What a joke. I can't wait for the foot patrol officer to try and stop my R1. I chock this up to chicken shit and don't believe it will deter anyone.

Um...please re-read it before you act all anti law, I'm so tough. If you don't have a sticker, you get a ticket when your bike is parked. I'm sure EVERYONE is just going to go ahead and keep their pipes that are too loud

fastfoodfred · 12-13-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Runout

Someone hasn't been stuck in traffic in a big city before apparently.

That someone isn't me. I form my opinions based on my experiences, which are more vast than any ocean on this earth.

Transported · 12-13-2008, 03:43 PM

They don't mean 80 decibels at any rpm at any distance. They have a prescribed rpm and distance for the listening device. The object is to get the ear-splitting bikes off the road. I love bikes. But, when I have to stop my conversation until some fucktard with an aftermarket exhaust turns it off or gets 100 yards away, I want to drag the moron off and do a burnout on his face.

fastfoodfred · 12-13-2008, 03:57 PM

The stereo bump is a noise I cannot stand. I don't want to rip someones head off and shit down their neck over it though. I know it will be gone any second. I also don't get mad when a plane flies overhead, a city bus drives by, police or ambulance sirens go by, or my wife is in the other room giving herself an orgasm. Noise pollution does not really exist.

I would hate it if cars had the sound of an electric motor-practically silent. It just wouldn't be right.

Why don't we outlaw hippies and their body odor instead?

dc_sniper9130 · 12-13-2008, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Nathan V

No it doesn't. The moron that needs to notice you will either be in front or to the side and won't hear you hardly at all, even with loud pipes... and that's assuming they're not blasting a stereo. Loud pipes are just loud.

all i'm gonna say is the v&h full system on my last bike saved my bacon more than enough times to make it worth having.

Runout · 12-13-2008, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by the chemist

Lets not bring my ex girlfriend into this

That's some funny shit right there!

She must be part of the same posse as my ex.

Because the loudest part of traffic is motorcycles? What about the semis? The buses? What about everything else?

Semi's rolling through downtown New York? Busses aren't that loud either. There are those fookers that think that leaning on their horn will actually get traffic moving.

Runout · 12-13-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

Why don't we outlaw hippies and their body odor instead?

I submit that hillbillies are even stinkier...at least hippies try to cover it up with patchoulli.

CodeBlue · 12-13-2008, 05:43 PM

Anyone want to start a pool on how long it will take for there to be a counterfeit sticker operation?

the chemist · 12-13-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Transported

They don't mean 80 decibels at any rpm at any distance. They have a prescribed rpm and distance for the listening device. The object is to get the ear-splitting bikes off the road.

You mean to tell me your bike doesn't make noise? In the city, someone shouldn't be at 9k rpm's.... But, to limit the bike to 80dB's? Hmmm...sounds like a plan. I'll tell you what, we test your bike and you give me a grand if it fails. Because that's what they're doing and you seem to like the idea.

But then again, you probably think your

doesn't stink, eh?

Pointman · 12-13-2008, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Transported

But, dammit, it's my Constitutional right to rattle windows, knock loose tooth fillings, halt all conversations and scramble the brain patterns of everyone within 100 yards of me when I ride my small-penis compensator!

Well, Suzukis do have that reputation....

Transported · 12-13-2008, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by the chemist

You mean to tell me your bike doesn't make noise? In the city, someone shouldn't be at 9k rpm's.... But, to limit the bike to 80dB's? Hmmm...sounds like a plan. I'll tell you what, we test your bike and you give me a grand if it fails. Because that's what they're doing and you seem to like the idea.

But then again, you probably think your

doesn't stink, eh?

My bike is not silent. It probably makes 80db when idling. And, at redline, it's quite noisy. But, the test ain't gonna be run at redline. It will probably be run near idling.

And, when my bike is sitting within yards of a bike with an aftermarket pipe, I can't even hear mine running.

And, something like a Harley with straight pipes is a different order of noise altogether. They make noise like a piledriver, echoing all through the city.

Shrek X · 12-13-2008, 06:53 PM

always amazes me how people are so willing to see someone else get fucked, and then they will turn around and cry when they get bent over...

let the frog boil

james1300 · 12-13-2008, 08:55 PM

The 'Shit Storm' is headed YOUR way. Its up to You. You quiet your bike down, or someone will for you, and YOU wont like it. Its ALL up to You. Deal with it now.

CodeBlue · 12-13-2008, 10:00 PM

I'll consider swapping my pipes out the day I see a cruiser on the side of the road for being too loud. This is focused legislation to keep sportbikes in line even though we aren't the worst offenders. When I was putting my full system on my buddy's dad started his HD in the same garage and you could see the dirt jump when he revved the engine. My bike couldn't do that even if I wanted it to. He's never been pulled over in 20,000 miles and I get glared at when I ride past cops.

It's easy to say that if we changed our habits then they'd leave us alone, but we're an easy target for legislation.

mfrankpdx · 12-13-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by dc_sniper9130

i'm not going to go on a personal rant about loud pipes saving lives, but it gets you noticed a thousand percent more than the little wimpy pussy horns most bikes come from the factory with.

Ask a police officer, fireman, or ambulance driver how many drivers are oblivious to their sirens. The fact is, those who notice loud pipes are the kind of people who notice motorcycles regardless of their volume. The people who typically don't notice motorcycles, don't notice them no matter how loud their pipes are.

As for the law, it sucks anyway.

Shrek X · 12-13-2008, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by james1300

The 'Shit Storm' is headed YOUR way. Its up to You. You quiet your bike down, or someone will for you, and YOU wont like it. Its ALL up to You. Deal with it now.

sure, as soon as we put a HP limit on bikes ripping up the highways and back roads putting peoples lives in danger every night. Say around 100. pipes have never hurt anyone, in fact they save lives .... crashing a sport bike on some back road at 150mph has, which is more a problem that we should address, hu?

go ahead, start pointing fingers, piss of those people who have supported all bikes and see how long there is a nice shiny 150hp bike waiting down at the shop waiting for you to buy

tokin · 12-14-2008, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by DJ Nathan V

No it doesn't. The moron that needs to notice you will either be in front or to the side and won't hear you hardly at all, even with loud pipes... and that's assuming they're not blasting a stereo. Loud pipes are just loud.

Have you ever ridden a motorcycle on I-5?

Transported · 12-14-2008, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Shrek X

sure, as soon as we put a HP limit on bikes ripping up the highways and back roads putting peoples lives in danger every night. Say around 100. pipes have never hurt anyone, in fact they save lives .... crashing a sport bike on some back road at 150mph has, which is more a problem that we should address, hu?

go ahead, start pointing fingers, piss of those people who have supported all bikes and see how long there is a nice shiny 150hp bike waiting down at the shop waiting for you to buy

So, you're saying that one person derives as much pleasure from putting around on a noisemaker as another person does going to remote parts of the state to carve up some little-trafficked roads? Odd form of entertainment in my estimation. But, to each his own.

But, you're also saying that each piss off people. So, while a sportbike in Fossil might pass a dozen cars in an afternoon, and perhaps piss off one or two of those folks, that's equivalent to someone riding his VTX in downtown Portland pissing off thousands of folks who are trying to enjoy a day in the city?

I admit that some of us sportbikers don't choose our places to rail wisely. But, an unmuffled bike exposes motorcycles to censure everywhere it goes.

dc_sniper9130 · 12-14-2008, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by mfrankpdx

The people who typically don't notice motorcycles, don't notice them no matter how loud their pipes are.

whatever you say, chief.

my personal experience dictates otherwise.

Shrek X · 12-14-2008, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Transported

So, you're saying that one person derives as much pleasure from putting around on a noisemaker as another person does going to remote parts of the state to carve up some little-trafficked roads? Odd form of entertainment in my estimation. But, to each his own.

But, you're also saying that each piss off people. So, while a sportbike in Fossil might pass a dozen cars in an afternoon, and perhaps piss off one or two of those folks, that's equivalent to someone riding his VTX in downtown Portland pissing off thousands of folks who are trying to enjoy a day in the city?

I admit that some of us sportbikers don't choose our places to rail wisely. But, an unmuffled bike exposes motorcycles to censure everywhere it goes.

remote parts, that funny, you sound so dignified and careful in how you approach it.... tell it to someone who doesnt know better.

I am saying that nobody has ever died from straight pipes. they have from passing a dozen cars at 100+, so, which should we legislate?

pissing off thousands? pull your head out of your ass.... when is the last time you saw a news report about a ride of straight pipe cruisers? Oh yea, we just did didnt we, that was the toy run. People lined up along downtown and at the hospital, clapping and twisting their hands in the air to get us to open up the pipes and let the engine roar. And the last sportbike news? Oh yea, wheelies and blocking I-5. what kind of bike has more accidents? fatalities? is seen speeding and weaving through traffic? hmm so which should we legislate. (funny how there were maybe 2dozen sportbikes out of the 7k bikes that showed for the toy run too, says something about that mentality)

.... but then I wouldn't expect anything less from you, people have to be your way, dress like you, ride like you and what you ride, act like you, or need to be tossed in jail or legislated in some manner.... thats par for you.

As for my X, I guarantee that I get 20x more thumbs up than it bothers anyone. bet you cant say the same.

but you want to draw the line between sport bikes and cruisers? go for it dumbass, your stepping on your own dick


12-13-2008, 08:20 AM	#1
Pointman MotoGP Contender Joined: Aug 2008 From: Puget Sound I Ride: H-D	New York goes "Nazi" on "loud" motorcycles.. b. No person shall stop, stand or park a motorcycle equipped with a straight pipe on a street in the city of New York. h. (1) Any motorcycle or straight pipe seized pursuant to this section shall be delivered into the custody of the police department. Where a notice of violation has been served, a hearing to adjudicate the violation underlying the seizure shall be held before the environmental control board within five business days after the seizure and such board shall render a decision within five business days after the conclusion of the hearing. In the event that the environmental control board determines that there has been no violation, the motorcycle or straight pipe shall be released forthwith to the owner or any person authorized by the owner to take possession of such motorcycle or straight pipe. (vi) The police department, after judicial determination of forfeiture of a straight pipe, shall destroy or dispose of such straight pipe. BY FRANK LOMBARDI DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Thursday, December 11th 2008, 2:18 AM Vroooom that noisy motorcycle once too often and the city could own it. In a new bid to stem motorcycle noise, the City Council is set to pass a bill requiring all bikes to sport tags certifying approval by the Environmental Protection Agency. No EPA tag, you get a ticket, without the officials having to prove the bike exceeded the 80-decibel limit set by the city's noise code. "Today we go a long way toward taking the squeal out of the hogs," said Peter Vallone (D-Queens), chairing a final bill hearing Wednesday in the Public Safety Committee. Under the bill, expected to pass the full Council Dec. 18, a first conviction carries a maximum $1,000 fine and temporary confiscation until the penalty is paid. A second conviction hikes the maximum fine to $2,500 and imposes permanent forfeiture. NYPD Lt. Daniel Albano testified that existing laws require cops to catch noisy motorcyclists in the act, which is difficult and can entail potentially hazardous chases. The new measure would let single officers on foot patrol - or other city agents - ticket parked motorcycles, he said. It gives police "an extra tool to get at what is truly a serious problem," said Councilman Alan Gerson (D-Manhattan), who crafted the bill based on a law in use in Denver. But biker Bill Ferraro, president of the Union Ironworkers Motorcycle Club, Local 580, testified that "it's unsafe for us to ride when the pipes are too low." He also said the city can't close its budget gap "with confiscation of bikes and seizure." flombardi@nydailynews.com new_york_dail167:http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...of_this-2.html __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 08:34 AM	#3
Transported MotoGP Champion Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland, Oregon Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: '99 R1, '80 Suz GS450S	Cool. Bout time. Too bad the assholes running straight pipes have now cost everyone with a motorcycle an unneccessary expense in having to purchase an EPA sticker. It's always the few who fuck the many. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Transported; 12-13-2008 at 08:36 AM..


12-13-2008, 08:40 AM	#5
gixer_racer MotoGP Contender Joined: Jun 2007 From: Covington, WA I Ride: RC51, TL1000R, GSXR 750 (in pieces), Magna 1100, R6 (track)	Ouch. Looks like that would snag pretty much any bike without the stock pipe on it. Also, how's your average foot patrol guy gonna tell a true straight pipe of a parked bike. I've seen some of the newer models with stock pipes that look pretty damn much like straight pipe but they are very quiet. I'm guessing it will get challenged pretty fast too. Confiscation (along with massive impound fees) until the fine is paid?? Pretty crazy for a non violent, non harming crime. It will really suck for those traveling through that don't know about the local ordinance. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 08:55 AM	#6
Transported MotoGP Champion Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland, Oregon Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: '99 R1, '80 Suz GS450S	But, dammit, it's my Constitutional right to rattle windows, knock loose tooth fillings, halt all conversations and scramble the brain patterns of everyone within 100 yards of me when I ride my small-penis compensator! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Transported; 12-13-2008 at 09:29 AM..


12-13-2008, 09:13 AM	#8
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12-13-2008, 09:46 AM	#9
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	Here's my spin on noise pollution-there is none from vehicles. I want to point out that when a car or bike zooms by, it is gone in seconds or at the worst, minutes in heavy traffic. Noise is not like pouring red paint on the ground that will be there for years. It its too short term to bother calling it pollution. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 11:40 AM	#16
midvalleysuperbiker Zone Head Joined: May 2008 From: South Salem Oregon I Ride: Aprilia Tuono, Ducati GT1000, Moto Guzzi Centauro, Bimota DB4, Yamaha FJR1300	Chalk one up for the NYC traffic Nazis Reason for all to be concerned. If it happens there it can happen here. Straight pipes first, aftermarket exhaust next. Then what?? What about the Akrapovic cans on my Aprilia or the Termis on my Ducati?? The traffic laws on Oregon are anal enough but I can see this happening here, especially in Portland. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 02:52 PM	#20
PulpComic Endorsed Joined: Jun 2007 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: 2007 YZF-R1 (Current), 2002 YZF-R1 Silver (Stolen), 2003 Kawasaki Z1000 Black (Sold), 1991 VFR-750 Red (Sold), 1988 VTR 250 Red (Sold)	What a joke. I can't wait for the foot patrol officer to try and stop my R1. I chock this up to chicken shit and don't believe it will deter anyone. This is just another money grab considering the untold number of cars and trucks with aftermarket exhaust not to mention the diesel trucks with air brakes and such. I would hope New York would realize that regardless of noise scooters and motorcycles would greatly reduce congestion in the city. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 03:43 PM	#23
Transported MotoGP Champion Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland, Oregon Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: '99 R1, '80 Suz GS450S	They don't mean 80 decibels at any rpm at any distance. They have a prescribed rpm and distance for the listening device. The object is to get the ear-splitting bikes off the road. I love bikes. But, when I have to stop my conversation until some fucktard with an aftermarket exhaust turns it off or gets 100 yards away, I want to drag the moron off and do a burnout on his face. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 03:57 PM	#24
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	The stereo bump is a noise I cannot stand. I don't want to rip someones head off and shit down their neck over it though. I know it will be gone any second. I also don't get mad when a plane flies overhead, a city bus drives by, police or ambulance sirens go by, or my wife is in the other room giving herself an orgasm. Noise pollution does not really exist. I would hate it if cars had the sound of an electric motor-practically silent. It just wouldn't be right. Why don't we outlaw hippies and their body odor instead? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 05:43 PM	#28
CodeBlue Zone Head Joined: Jun 2007 From: Seattle, WA - University District Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: Raven '06 R6	Anyone want to start a pool on how long it will take for there to be a counterfeit sticker operation? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 06:53 PM	#32
Shrek X Mr. 500,000 Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland I Ride: VTX	always amazes me how people are so willing to see someone else get fucked, and then they will turn around and cry when they get bent over... let the frog boil __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 08:55 PM	#33
james1300 Track School Dazed Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can	The 'Shit Storm' is headed YOUR way. Its up to You. You quiet your bike down, or someone will for you, and YOU wont like it. Its ALL up to You. Deal with it now. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2008, 10:00 PM	#34
CodeBlue Zone Head Joined: Jun 2007 From: Seattle, WA - University District Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: Raven '06 R6	I'll consider swapping my pipes out the day I see a cruiser on the side of the road for being too loud. This is focused legislation to keep sportbikes in line even though we aren't the worst offenders. When I was putting my full system on my buddy's dad started his HD in the same garage and you could see the dirt jump when he revved the engine. My bike couldn't do that even if I wanted it to. He's never been pulled over in 20,000 miles and I get glared at when I ride past cops. It's easy to say that if we changed our habits then they'd leave us alone, but we're an easy target for legislation. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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