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clt750 · 01-12-2009, 10:54 AM

My 98 748 needs new clutch plates. Any Ducati people out there with recommendations on where to buy parts besides the dealer? As much as I love Seattle Ducati I can't seem to part with the $265.00 that they want for the plates and plates alone. I have been watching E Bay and have seen some deals. I just figured I would check in here before I purchased.

TRAIL BOSS · 01-12-2009, 11:24 AM

You own a Ducati and you're complaining about $265?

clt750 · 01-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by TRAIL BOSS

You own a Ducati and you're complaining about $265?

Hey if I have seen them on Ebay with bidding ending potentially at 170.00 I think that 100.00 is a pretty significant savings.

Although I do agree with your statement.

Jet City Racer · 01-12-2009, 11:32 AM

Lockhart Phillips has a complete Barnett clutch kit for $175 that includes both the steel and fiber plates.

Part # 460-1505 in their Options Italia section of their catalog.

Nex · 01-12-2009, 11:51 AM

Which means any LP dealer should be able to get them for you.

hondakilla98 · 01-12-2009, 02:37 PM

you could try Italy?

Sorry i had to say it.

Red Label Moto · 01-12-2009, 02:56 PM

There are lots of online non-dealer options, not that I ever go anywhere but the dealer.

These are a couple good ones with great reps:

http://www.speedymoto.com/

http://www.motowheels.com/index2.html

Jet City Racer · 01-12-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Red Label Moto

There are lots of online non-dealer options, not that I ever go anywhere but the dealer.

Please support your local dealer or you just might not have one in the future. Nothing is more frustrating/costly for a dealer than when a guy walks into the parts dept and tries on every helmet in the store while getting advice from the parts department until he finds the right one for him and then walks out and buys it online. Even worse is when they spend 30 minutes getting all the part numbers, ask for a pick ticket and then go buy the parts off the internet.

We all want to save money, but maybe asking the parts mgr if he can come close to the IT price so they can at least keep the lights on for you down the road when you really need something.

dexterdog · 01-12-2009, 04:01 PM

Don't be afraid to bargain on the $265. See if they will price match. Read online to make sure no one is having issues with aftermarket clutch plates. I know when I had my TLR only factory Suzuki plates worked well due to thickness variances. I used Barnett springs though.

Jet City Racer · 01-13-2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by dexterdog

Don't be afraid to bargain on the $265. See if they will price match. Read online to make sure no one is having issues with aftermarket clutch plates. I know when I had my TLR only factory Suzuki plates worked well due to thickness variances. I used Barnett springs though.

I've never had a single issue with Barnett products in either my TL, Mille or CRF.

RumpigCBR · 01-13-2009, 12:31 PM

Tried your local Starbucks?

shelbyguy · 01-13-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jet City Racer

Please support your local dealer or you just might not have one in the future. Nothing is more frustrating/costly for a dealer than when a guy walks into the parts dept and tries on every helmet in the store while getting advice from the parts department until he finds the right one for him and then walks out and buys it online. Even worse is when they spend 30 minutes getting all the part numbers, ask for a pick ticket and then go buy the parts off the internet.

We all want to save money, but maybe asking the parts mgr if he can come close to the IT price so they can at least keep the lights on for you down the road when you really need something.

though he has followed me from af1, i have to agree with him...no plz quit stalking me.
JUST KIDDING

Originally Posted by RumpigCBR

Tried your local Starbucks?

oh no you did'nt

Dave R · 01-13-2009, 03:46 PM

In the latest LP price tape their Barnett kit sells for $192.79. The OEM clutch pack sells for $265.99 and is in stock. Are you a paid DesmoNW or WMRRA member ? That's good for 10% off ! Both the OEM and the Barnett come with metal plates as well. We have had hit and miss luck with Barnett plates in a dry clutch application.. never a hitch with the OEM. Hope this helps some..

nemesis · 01-13-2009, 09:47 PM

CG sells LP. Their local as well.

Buz · 01-13-2009, 10:49 PM

You get what you pay for and you can't return ebay etc.
Just my 2 cents

clt750 · 01-14-2009, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dave R

In the latest LP price tape their Barnett kit sells for $192.79. The OEM clutch pack sells for $265.99 and is in stock. Are you a paid DesmoNW or WMRRA member ? That's good for 10% off ! Both the OEM and the Barnett come with metal plates as well. We have had hit and miss luck with Barnett plates in a dry clutch application.. never a hitch with the OEM. Hope this helps some..

Hey Dave I will be down to buy the OEM Clutch kit from you as long as you throw in a Ducati T-Shirt.

No and No on the memberships.

Nefarious · 01-14-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jet City Racer

Please support your local dealer or you just might not have one in the future. Nothing is more frustrating/costly for a dealer than when a guy walks into the parts dept and tries on every helmet in the store while getting advice from the parts department until he finds the right one for him and then walks out and buys it online. Even worse is when they spend 30 minutes getting all the part numbers, ask for a pick ticket and then go buy the parts off the internet.

We all want to save money, but maybe asking the parts mgr if he can come close to the IT price so they can at least keep the lights on for you down the road when you really need something.

Ha, when Dealerships stop raping the public the public will probably support them more. When I lived in Sierra Vista (Small Military town in Southern AZ) The manager of the shop I bought my bike from showed up at a bike night, and straight up asked, "Why don't you guys buy your stuff from me anymore."

And we straight up said, "Why do you charge 20-25% over MSRP for your stuff."

He fixed his prices, he got his buisness back.

Dealerships are not some Mom & Pop shop that are in financial trouble because people want to get better prices on gear, they are one of the pinnacles of capitalism, they are the empire of % mark ups they are the enemy that will sell you a pile of shit, guarantee it smells like roses and promise it tastes like honey.

http://pipecity.com/
http://www.helmetharbor.com/

^^^ Shops like THESE need our support, these guys come out to the races and the track days EVERY weekend , they offer GREAT discounts for licensed racers, they help support the motorcycle community in every damn way they can.

Dave R · 01-14-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by clt750

Hey Dave I will be down to buy the OEM Clutch kit from you as long as you throw in a Ducati T-Shirt.

No and No on the memberships.

cool, a t shirt is yours ! I will have parts set the pack aside for you..

Ciao998 · 01-14-2009, 05:51 PM

L.T. Snyder and his Desmo Times store will have what you need, you should get aquainted with his work if you are a DIY'er.

On the other hand supporting your dealer is good too.

Ciao998 · 01-14-2009, 05:54 PM

NM, I'm late. But you should still buy Snyders books.............

Dave R · 01-14-2009, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ciao998

NM, I'm late. But you should still buy Snyders books.............

the desmotimes books are great ! We have those too..

bubba_zenetti · 01-14-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by TRAIL BOSS

You own a Ducati and you're complaining about $265?

no shit

hey guess what. a clutch for a jap bike cost that much too.

Jet City Racer · 01-14-2009, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Ha, when Dealerships stop raping the public the public will probably support them more. When I lived in Sierra Vista (Small Military town in Southern AZ) The manager of the shop I bought my bike from showed up at a bike night, and straight up asked, "Why don't you guys buy your stuff from me anymore."

And we straight up said, "Why do you charge 20-25% over MSRP for your stuff."

He fixed his prices, he got his buisness back.

Dealerships are not some Mom & Pop shop that are in financial trouble because people want to get better prices on gear, they are one of the pinnacles of capitalism, they are the empire of % mark ups they are the enemy that will sell you a pile of shit, guarantee it smells like roses and promise it tastes like honey.

Motorcycle dealers make on average of 12% on bikes, 40-50% on hard parts and maybe 20-35% on accessories.

But the clothes you are wearing have 150 to 200% markup on them.

Yeah, bike dealers are ripping you off.

jkester92 · 01-14-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Ha, when Dealerships stop raping the public the public will probably support them more. When I lived in Sierra Vista (Small Military town in Southern AZ) The manager of the shop I bought my bike from showed up at a bike night, and straight up asked, "Why don't you guys buy your stuff from me anymore."

And we straight up said, "Why do you charge 20-25% over MSRP for your stuff."

He fixed his prices, he got his buisness back.

Dealerships are not some Mom & Pop shop that are in financial trouble because people want to get better prices on gear, they are one of the pinnacles of capitalism, they are the empire of % mark ups they are the enemy that will sell you a pile of shit, guarantee it smells like roses and promise it tastes like honey.

http://pipecity.com/
http://www.helmetharbor.com/

^^^ Shops like THESE need our support, these guys come out to the races and the track days EVERY weekend , they offer GREAT discounts for licensed racers, they help support the motorcycle community in every damn way they can.

You know some of this may be true, But not all dealers are like that. I can tell you first hand Dave and his crew at Ducati Seattle are great and help alot of people. Just one example was a Ducati that I didn't buy from Dave had a dead battery way out on the eastside on a construction site I was working on, because I turned the key to park and left the light on all day. I called to ask about jumping the battery, I had no tools with me, Dave overheard Sonny talking to me on the phone, took the phone asked me where I was and offered to send his van out to pick my bike and me up. In the middle of rush hour traffic. I bought my next bike from them and have been treated like family everytime I walk through the door, (even if I'm not buying anything) It sure is nice to know they are there anytime I have a question or a problem I can't fix myself.

Old Topanga · 01-14-2009, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Ha, when Dealerships stop raping the public the public will probably support them more. When I lived in Sierra Vista (Small Military town in Southern AZ) The manager of the shop I bought my bike from showed up at a bike night, and straight up asked, "Why don't you guys buy your stuff from me anymore."

And we straight up said, "Why do you charge 20-25% over MSRP for your stuff."

He fixed his prices, he got his buisness back.

Dealerships are not some Mom & Pop shop that are in financial trouble because people want to get better prices on gear, they are one of the pinnacles of capitalism, they are the empire of % mark ups they are the enemy that will sell you a pile of shit, guarantee it smells like roses and promise it tastes like honey.

http://pipecity.com/
http://www.helmetharbor.com/

^^^ Shops like THESE need our support, these guys come out to the races and the track days EVERY weekend , they offer GREAT discounts for licensed racers, they help support the motorcycle community in every damn way they can.

If you really think that motorcycle dealers make so much money, open up a shop and get rich. If you have never done it, you have no idea how hard it is to run a profitable business.

Jet City Racer · 01-14-2009, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Old Topanga

If you really think that motorcycle dealers make so much money, open up a shop and get rich. If you have never done it, you have no idea how hard it is to run a profitable business.

Even harder to keep the lights on when the staff spends hours sincerely trying to assist some wanker who has no intention of buying anything.

He probably asks the service mgr to copy pages from the shop manual for him too.

Nefarious · 01-14-2009, 10:27 PM

LOL, so I'm the asshole because I get the best bang for my buck instead of paying a bit more to support who YOU think I should support. What a riot. It is not now, nor will it ever be my problem that dealerships cannot or will not compete with online business. I have one word for people who want me to feel bad because they , or the causes they support don't make enough money: Capitalism.

My motorcycle dealership doesn't take care of me when I'm sick, I don't call them to babysit my kids, They never wrote me a christmas card, they are not my family nor are they my friends. I do business with them. If it is in my best interest financially to continue to do buisness with them, I will; however if they expect me to pay for example, $120 for a motorcycle battery that I can order online for $60 shipped to my door they are out of their damned minds.\

I'm not saying It's easy, nor am I saying I could run one succesfully, what I am saying is that you have no grounds to complain about me not giving someone business who is not offering me the best deal.

jkester92 · 01-14-2009, 10:54 PM

I get christmas cards! Maybe they just don't like you

Jet City Racer · 01-14-2009, 11:20 PM

I can get a deal at any shop I walk into 90% of the time. They appreciate my business and I appreciate the convenience/service, especially if I have a problem with my purchase after the sale.

I'm willing to spend a bit more for that.

BTW~ You said you're an asshole, not me.

Notice I'm not arguing with you.

Nefarious · 01-14-2009, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jet City Racer

I can get a deal at any shop I walk into 90% of the time. They appreciate my business and I appreciate the convenience/service, especially if I have a problem with my purchase after the sale.

I'm willing to spend a bit more for that.

BTW~ You said you're an asshole, not me.
Notice I'm not arguing with you.

Well I'm glad to hear that the shops in WA will work with you, you'll have to give me a list of them so I can give them my business, however I'm quite wary of believing this from someone who thinks I should blindly support a shop simply because I live near it.

I find it quite amusing that by spending my money wisely I earn judgment from you.

Jet City Racer · 01-14-2009, 11:51 PM

I'm not judging you, I don't even know you. My original link was stating that if we don't support our local dealers (that us, the consumer) enjoy doing business with and they disappear, what are you gonna do then? Hope your shit fits? What do you do when you have a problem? Send it back (at your cost/time) and hope they correct the issue in a timely manner?

Personally, I find value in knowing I can take it to someone in person.

But....... based on your posts, I'm not surprised you don't get any breaks on your parts.

Or any Christmas cards either.

Nefarious · 01-14-2009, 11:58 PM

I think that we are both in favor of the same thing, but coming from two completely different view points.

I support my local shops all the time, dealerships on the other hand I am much slower to support with exceptions.

For instance, locally we have "North Valley Honda" who not only sponsers racers, they come to almost every race with all their goodies and play a HUGE part in the local motorcycle community.

I'll buy from them even with a huge mark up every day of the week if need be.

The dealerships I'm talking about are the high and mighty towers of evil that don't give two shits about it's customer base.

Unfortunately though a HUGE percentage of dealerships fall in the tower of evil category. And I think it's more important to save a buck then to support that kind of business.

The fault is mine for generalizing all dealerships in my initial post on the issue without giving an a better explanation of what I was saying.

Jet City Racer · 01-15-2009, 12:24 AM

You won't see me shopping at Bert's Megamall, Chaparrel or the other mega dealerships either. (Or if they're lazy/unhelpful/unknowledgeable/etc.....) The shops I deal with I know the owner/mgrs by name, they know me and what I ride and are happy to see me when I come in the door. I don't demand a discount, but if their price isn't competitive I will ask them if they can come close. They are entitled to make a profit. I don't work for free and don't expect them to either. It's a symbiotic relationship that we both profit from. I've built relationships like this for over 30 years.

Nefarious · 01-15-2009, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jet City Racer

You won't see me shopping at Bert's Megamall, Chaparrel or the other mega dealerships either. (Or if they're lazy/unhelpful/unknowledgeable/etc.....) The shops I deal with I know the owner/mgrs by name, they know me and what I ride and are happy to see me when I come in the door. I don't demand a discount, but if their price isn't competitive I will ask them if they can come close. They are entitled to make a profit. I don't work for free and don't expect them to either. It's a symbiotic relationship that we both profit from. I've built relationships like this for over 30 years.

Shops like that are one of the reasons I'd like to get away from where I'm at now. I walk into most any shop here in Phoenix, save a select few and I instantly have chummed the waters. I've actually gone to the same dealership 3-4 times looking at a bike in a 2 week period and 2/4 times the guy I had spoken to had NO memory of who I was or anything we talked about.

On the other hand, I hadn't been in North Valley Honda in over 6 months, walked in there today to drool at a CBR1000RR and a guy I only vaguly remember meeting at the track came up to me, Called me by name, asked about my wife BY NAME and simply asked that if I wanted to talk numbers to come speak to him.

dragracer1951 · 01-15-2009, 05:13 AM

I always thought it a little petty to use the local dealership to check out what I needed, then buy on line. Seems to me like you're stealing from them. You're using their time and they are paying for it not you with a sale.
I buy from a couple of local shops. And I DO get a Christmas card from each of them. Every year. I am recognized by name when I walk through the door and they all offer a reasonable discount. I appreciate them being there to service my needs.
I have had my issues with local shops over the years, but I have gone to the owners and worked them out.
I just bought a complete clutch set, fibers, steels, and springs for my DRZ and it was $170. So yea, I could see an OEM Duc clutch being a hunnert bux more.
Who you gonna go to next time you want part numbers or to try on a helmet or boots if the dealer goes under?

molamphy · 01-15-2009, 05:48 AM

Hopefully clt750 got the info he needed. As far as the local shops, we were talking Ducati, I believe. Yes, sometimes they are higher priced. I'm willing to pay the extra on certain items just knowing I'll get the support I need and follow-up, too. I have gotten calls and emails from two of the local Ducati dealers about different issues. Both seriously support local events and clubs, too. It might be more because the Ducati market is a bit smaller and easier to keep track of but it could also be because DucSea and Eastside actually do care about their customers. They both usually have coffee, too! (No, not Starbucks, either.)
I'm not going to blindly buy everything out of a "Buy local to keep them open" philosophy but it does sway my decision. I did buy some Dainese leathers from Eastside that they made a deal that was the same as the online prices I found, too. I'm also going to go test ride an MTS1100 today. Hard to do online. I bet the owner will even say Hi and remember my name.

It's your money so you spend it where ever you want. Just keep an open mind if you're up in this area.

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Shops like that are one of the reasons I'd like to get away from where I'm at now. I walk into most any shop here in Phoenix, save a select few and I instantly have chummed the waters. I've actually gone to the same dealership 3-4 times looking at a bike in a 2 week period and 2/4 times the guy I had spoken to had NO memory of who I was or anything we talked about.

On the other hand, I hadn't been in North Valley Honda in over 6 months, walked in there today to drool at a CBR1000RR and a guy I only vaguly remember meeting at the track came up to me, Called me by name, asked about my wife BY NAME and simply asked that if I wanted to talk numbers to come speak to him.

Dave R · 01-15-2009, 08:39 AM

Hi John

see you soon !

Originally Posted by molamphy

Hopefully clt750 got the info he needed. As far as the local shops, we were talking Ducati, I believe. Yes, sometimes they are higher priced. I'm willing to pay the extra on certain items just knowing I'll get the support I need and follow-up, too. I have gotten calls and emails from two of the local Ducati dealers about different issues. Both seriously support local events and clubs, too. It might be more because the Ducati market is a bit smaller and easier to keep track of but it could also be because DucSea and Eastside actually do care about their customers. They both usually have coffee, too! (No, not Starbucks, either.)
I'm not going to blindly buy everything out of a "Buy local to keep them open" philosophy but it does sway my decision. I did buy some Dainese leathers from Eastside that they made a deal that was the same as the online prices I found, too. I'm also going to go test ride an MTS1100 today. Hard to do online. I bet the owner will even say Hi and remember my name.

It's your money so you spend it where ever you want. Just keep an open mind if you're up in this area.

Cogs · 01-15-2009, 05:47 PM

The economy is taking its toll...

Seemed like they'd always be there, didn't it?


01-12-2009, 10:54 AM	#1
clt750 Zone Head Joined: Jul 2008 From: Greater Seattle I Ride: 2 wheels	Looking for a good place to buy Ducati parts My 98 748 needs new clutch plates. Any Ducati people out there with recommendations on where to buy parts besides the dealer? As much as I love Seattle Ducati I can't seem to part with the $265.00 that they want for the plates and plates alone. I have been watching E Bay and have seen some deals. I just figured I would check in here before I purchased. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-12-2009, 11:24 AM	#2
TRAIL BOSS Streetfighter Joined: Apr 2007 From: Arlington, WA I Ride: A fast bike, VERY slowly.	You own a Ducati and you're complaining about $265? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-12-2009, 11:32 AM	#4
Jet City Racer Streetfighter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Federal Way I Ride: 2 wheeled ones	Lockhart Phillips has a complete Barnett clutch kit for $175 that includes both the steel and fiber plates. Part # 460-1505 in their Options Italia section of their catalog. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Jet City Racer; 01-12-2009 at 11:38 AM..


01-12-2009, 11:51 AM	#5
Nex Pit Crew Joined: Sep 2007 From: Seattle I Ride: 2002 RSV Mille & 2003 YZF-R6 & 2006 DRZ250	Which means any LP dealer should be able to get them for you. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-12-2009, 02:37 PM	#6
hondakilla98 Pit Crew Joined: Dec 2007 From: BEAVERTON, OR I Ride: 2000 kawasaki zx-12r	Looking for a good place to buy Ducati parts you could try Italy? Sorry i had to say it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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01-12-2009, 02:56 PM	#7
Red Label Moto Zone Head Joined: Feb 2007 From: Seattle I Ride: All kinds	There are lots of online non-dealer options, not that I ever go anywhere but the dealer. These are a couple good ones with great reps: http://www.speedymoto.com/ http://www.motowheels.com/index2.html __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-12-2009, 04:01 PM	#9
dexterdog Superbiker Joined: Sep 2005 From: Olywa I Ride: Family Truckster	Don't be afraid to bargain on the $265. See if they will price match. Read online to make sure no one is having issues with aftermarket clutch plates. I know when I had my TLR only factory Suzuki plates worked well due to thickness variances. I used Barnett springs though. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-13-2009, 12:31 PM	#11
RumpigCBR Zone Head Joined: Jun 2006 From: Snoqualmie, WA I Ride: 2008 CBR1000RR	Tried your local Starbucks? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-13-2009, 03:46 PM	#13
Dave R Ducati Seattle Joined: Oct 2006 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: Ducati	In the latest LP price tape their Barnett kit sells for $192.79. The OEM clutch pack sells for $265.99 and is in stock. Are you a paid DesmoNW or WMRRA member ? That's good for 10% off ! Both the OEM and the Barnett come with metal plates as well. We have had hit and miss luck with Barnett plates in a dry clutch application.. never a hitch with the OEM. Hope this helps some.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-13-2009, 09:47 PM	#14
nemesis Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Westside I Ride: Something fun	CG sells LP. Their local as well. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-13-2009, 10:49 PM	#15
Buz Ducati Seattle Joined: Jan 2005 From: Bremerton,WA I Ride: all of them	You get what you pay for and you can't return ebay etc. Just my 2 cents __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-14-2009, 05:51 PM	#19
Ciao998 MotoGP Contender Joined: Sep 2006 From: kennewick/wa I Ride: Ducati 998	L.T. Snyder and his Desmo Times store will have what you need, you should get aquainted with his work if you are a DIY'er. On the other hand supporting your dealer is good too. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-14-2009, 05:54 PM	#20
Ciao998 MotoGP Contender Joined: Sep 2006 From: kennewick/wa I Ride: Ducati 998	NM, I'm late. But you should still buy Snyders books............. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-14-2009, 10:27 PM	#27
Nefarious Superbiker Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bremerton Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: 03 SV650 (Track) 03 SV1000S (Street)	LOL, so I'm the asshole because I get the best bang for my buck instead of paying a bit more to support who YOU think I should support. What a riot. It is not now, nor will it ever be my problem that dealerships cannot or will not compete with online business. I have one word for people who want me to feel bad because they , or the causes they support don't make enough money: Capitalism. My motorcycle dealership doesn't take care of me when I'm sick, I don't call them to babysit my kids, They never wrote me a christmas card, they are not my family nor are they my friends. I do business with them. If it is in my best interest financially to continue to do buisness with them, I will; however if they expect me to pay for example, $120 for a motorcycle battery that I can order online for $60 shipped to my door they are out of their damned minds.\ I'm not saying It's easy, nor am I saying I could run one succesfully, what I am saying is that you have no grounds to complain about me not giving someone business who is not offering me the best deal. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Nefarious; 01-14-2009 at 11:14 PM..


01-14-2009, 10:54 PM	#28
jkester92 Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2007 From: WOODINVILLE I Ride: 08 1098R/ 06 999S/ 07 R1/ 04 ZRX1200	I get christmas cards! Maybe they just don't like you __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-14-2009, 11:20 PM	#29
Jet City Racer Streetfighter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Federal Way I Ride: 2 wheeled ones	I can get a deal at any shop I walk into 90% of the time. They appreciate my business and I appreciate the convenience/service, especially if I have a problem with my purchase after the sale. I'm willing to spend a bit more for that. BTW~ You said you're an asshole, not me. Notice I'm not arguing with you. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-14-2009, 11:51 PM	#31
Jet City Racer Streetfighter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Federal Way I Ride: 2 wheeled ones	I'm not judging you, I don't even know you. My original link was stating that if we don't support our local dealers (that us, the consumer) enjoy doing business with and they disappear, what are you gonna do then? Hope your shit fits? What do you do when you have a problem? Send it back (at your cost/time) and hope they correct the issue in a timely manner? Personally, I find value in knowing I can take it to someone in person. But....... based on your posts, I'm not surprised you don't get any breaks on your parts. Or any Christmas cards either. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-14-2009, 11:58 PM	#32
Nefarious Superbiker Joined: Jan 2009 From: Bremerton Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: 03 SV650 (Track) 03 SV1000S (Street)	I think that we are both in favor of the same thing, but coming from two completely different view points. I support my local shops all the time, dealerships on the other hand I am much slower to support with exceptions. For instance, locally we have "North Valley Honda" who not only sponsers racers, they come to almost every race with all their goodies and play a HUGE part in the local motorcycle community. I'll buy from them even with a huge mark up every day of the week if need be. The dealerships I'm talking about are the high and mighty towers of evil that don't give two shits about it's customer base. Unfortunately though a HUGE percentage of dealerships fall in the tower of evil category. And I think it's more important to save a buck then to support that kind of business. The fault is mine for generalizing all dealerships in my initial post on the issue without giving an a better explanation of what I was saying. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-15-2009, 12:24 AM	#33
Jet City Racer Streetfighter Joined: Jan 2009 From: Federal Way I Ride: 2 wheeled ones	You won't see me shopping at Bert's Megamall, Chaparrel or the other mega dealerships either. (Or if they're lazy/unhelpful/unknowledgeable/etc.....) The shops I deal with I know the owner/mgrs by name, they know me and what I ride and are happy to see me when I come in the door. I don't demand a discount, but if their price isn't competitive I will ask them if they can come close. They are entitled to make a profit. I don't work for free and don't expect them to either. It's a symbiotic relationship that we both profit from. I've built relationships like this for over 30 years. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Jet City Racer; 01-15-2009 at 12:27 AM..


01-15-2009, 05:13 AM	#35
dragracer1951 MotoGP Champion Joined: Sep 2005 From: Bremerton I Ride: 03 Are See fiddy one, 05 DRZ400SM, 95 FZR1040, 69 Combat Commando Roadster, 73 Commando Interstate, 67 BSA B44, 71 BSA B50	I always thought it a little petty to use the local dealership to check out what I needed, then buy on line. Seems to me like you're stealing from them. You're using their time and they are paying for it not you with a sale. I buy from a couple of local shops. And I DO get a Christmas card from each of them. Every year. I am recognized by name when I walk through the door and they all offer a reasonable discount. I appreciate them being there to service my needs. I have had my issues with local shops over the years, but I have gone to the owners and worked them out. I just bought a complete clutch set, fibers, steels, and springs for my DRZ and it was $170. So yea, I could see an OEM Duc clutch being a hunnert bux more. Who you gonna go to next time you want part numbers or to try on a helmet or boots if the dealer goes under? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-15-2009, 05:47 PM	#38
Cogs Training Wheels Joined: Feb 2007 From: Dolemite's Total Experience	Thought this would bring the topic full-circle The economy is taking its toll... Seemed like they'd always be there, didn't it? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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