Laid it down.. on camera! or Worst Commute - Page 2

ELI the ICE man · 10-11-2012, 08:31 AM

I saw that coming a block ahead of time... I expected the bus was going to merge. It didn't... but it was part of the equation. Car was trying to get in behind the bus. I figured that was going to be the site of the accident early on. Yeah, I knew something was going to happen, so it is easier to predict what knowing the outcome... but still.

Anyway, identify obstacles early and have a plan about what to do before hand. Lane to the left looked clear (from that view). A quick swerve, no brake, would have been good.

Either way, swerving AND braking at the same time doesn't work.

Glad you are ok and you didn't get run over by the traffic behind you. If you stopped fast, so did they (we hope).

Buick_65 · 10-11-2012, 08:37 AM

SIPDE is your friend.

staffordworks · 10-11-2012, 08:47 AM

yep, watching the video i noticed the vw right when it passed in front of me, every step of the way from the back seat i was saying dude! too close, dude that bus turned left you had plenty of room then or the worst, dude you should have just stayed in that lane!

haircut, no, but i was just thinking we could all learn a valuable lesson from this, screw clean underwear, the doc has seen it, deep conditioning people! you never know when your viking locks are going to be on tv

as for sidpe, though my friend, i think as a newbie overclocking the processor on every thing i should be looking for and be mindful of is what did me in, you can see me double mirror check then head check to be really sure nothing it to my left while skipping the obvious what if that guy in front of me stops all of the sudden for no reason? (i say no reason because in my mind i was worried about the cyclist (having ridden this same route on a pedo many times) once he was clear it felt like nothing would slow traffic until the next light, good time to get to a safer lane. mmmm concrete, tasty.

Mrmat25 · 10-11-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by galenernest

You need a haircut.

Maybe his hair got caught in the camera mount and made him fall over? Possibly sue his hair stylist?

Caslaw we need your legal opinion on this one.

Any illegal gravel?

RedKat600 · 10-11-2012, 09:12 AM

What were you looking at? Was it the cop car or were you looking behind you to change lanes?

staffordworks · 10-11-2012, 10:23 AM

i was doing a head check after mirror check to take the left lane, at least with my mall mirrors its just too easy to miss someone right next to you so i always look as i'm about to move over.

rowlex · 10-11-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by staffordworks

i was doing a head check after mirror check to take the left lane, at least with my mall mirrors its just too easy to miss someone right next to you so i always look as i'm about to move over.

good cover story.

did the girl you were staring at see the drop? that is my worst fear.

Jeffytune · 10-11-2012, 11:31 AM

I hate to be critical of you sir, but I have a couple questions.

1) What were you looking at on the side of the road that was so important? (The Girl or the cop car with the lights on)
2) It looks like you were on a 1 way street, and the bus's were turning left at the last light, so the lane to your left was clear, why didn't you just go into the left lane and pass the car?
3) Did you apply the rear brake or just use the front?

I am not trying to bust your chops, I just wanted to point out that you had other options and that it is very important to know what the hell going on it front of you, not the side of the road.

staffordworks · 10-11-2012, 11:42 AM

1) again, doing a head check to change lanes, not looking at anyone/thing
2) changing lanes in intersection is illegal (and in front of a cop)
3) the second core f' up here was no rear brake, no time to get my foot on it, I had about 3 feet when i saw the vw.

no worries busting my chops, already did that myself 12x over

i keep hearing about swooping, not sure how that can be done at 5mph in 3 feet, i can see doing that at 20+ in 10 or 20 feet, i practice that with manholes and such, pretending i've just noticed a road hazard.

LivnLife4Fun · 10-11-2012, 11:46 AM

sucks that happened but glad you didn't get run over by the vehicle behind you!!!

do you know the 'your back to bike, one hand on handlebar the other hand on the grab rail, lever it up with your legs' method of picking up the bike by yourself? Anyone with a heavy bike needs to know this. Might find yourself with a tipped over bike in a parking lot full of people not moving a muscle to help you pick it up

LivnLife4Fun · 10-11-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by staffordworks

1) ~snip~
i keep hearing about swooping, not sure how that can be done at 5mph in 3 feet, i can see doing that at 20+ in 10 or 20 feet, i practice that with manholes and such, pretending i've just noticed a road hazard.

that is one of the most difficult things to execute in an emergency situation on a motorcycle - turn (countersteer) INTO the hazard, not away from it...

staffordworks · 10-11-2012, 11:51 AM

i've read about it but until i try it I won't know if i got it, I think the hardest part doing that solo would be not droping it over the other way unless you were right side down and remembered to drop the kickstand

LivnLife4Fun · 10-11-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by staffordworks

i've read about it but until i try it I won't know if i got it, I think the hardest part doing that solo would be not droping it over the other way unless you were right side down and remembered to drop the kickstand

dude, you had plenty of time to pratice it yesterday lol! as long as you ease it up slow & steady it won't drop over the other side. You'll know when the bike hits its upright balance point...

nancejd · 10-11-2012, 12:12 PM

It looks like you were riding in the center of the lane right behind the car. That's a lane position I rarely adopt. I would have been on either the left or the right side of my lane, probably the left side if I was intending to change to the left lane. Being off center can give you that extra little bit of time you need to stop or simply go around.

As for checking to your left, that's a good thing, but once the bus on the left was stopping and you were going by, the lane would have to be clear, gas it and go. Being aware is good, hesitating can get you hurt.

Glad you're OK though. Personally, I hate riding in Seattle.

menotknow · 10-11-2012, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by galenernest

You need a haircut.

Not haircut but gloves. And I'm glad too that you're OK.

staffordworks · 10-11-2012, 01:05 PM

I had gloves in the saddle bag, doesn't that work?

I also need armored gear, been working on that, glad i didn't need either this time.

djacobsen5116 · 10-11-2012, 01:15 PM

Tried the "back to the bike" to pick up a bilke routine lately with a FJR?

spolic · 10-11-2012, 01:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXDNK_Ml7Hw

dwschultzy · 10-11-2012, 01:53 PM

Situational awareness is key to riding a motorcycle safely....anywhere.

Your head check after the mirror check was waaaaay to long. Mirrors are tools, learn to use those tools quickly and effeciently.

LivnLife4Fun · 10-11-2012, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by djacobsen5116

Tried the "back to the bike" to pick up a bilke routine lately with a FJR?

no, but few wks ago picked up my 550lb bike up with a full gas tank right away with no problem. doing it w 650lb bike shouldn't be a problem for a guy who is in shape

Originally Posted by dwschultzy

Situational awareness is key to staying alive....anywhere.

Your head check after the mirror check was waaaaay to long. Mirrors are tools, learn to use those tools quickly and effeciently.

fix'd!


10-11-2012, 08:31 AM	#21
ELI the ICE man Endorsed Joined: Mar 2011 From: Oregon City, Oregon I Ride: 2007 Z1000	I saw that coming a block ahead of time... I expected the bus was going to merge. It didn't... but it was part of the equation. Car was trying to get in behind the bus. I figured that was going to be the site of the accident early on. Yeah, I knew something was going to happen, so it is easier to predict what knowing the outcome... but still. Anyway, identify obstacles early and have a plan about what to do before hand. Lane to the left looked clear (from that view). A quick swerve, no brake, would have been good. Either way, swerving AND braking at the same time doesn't work. Glad you are ok and you didn't get run over by the traffic behind you. If you stopped fast, so did they (we hope). __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 08:37 AM	#22
Buick_65 Peg Dragger Joined: Mar 2008 From: Poulsbo, WA I Ride: CBR 954, WR250X, SV650	SIPDE is your friend. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 08:47 AM	#23
staffordworks Permit Joined: Sep 2012 From: Bainbridge Island, Wa I Ride: 1995 BMW K75	yep, watching the video i noticed the vw right when it passed in front of me, every step of the way from the back seat i was saying dude! too close, dude that bus turned left you had plenty of room then or the worst, dude you should have just stayed in that lane! haircut, no, but i was just thinking we could all learn a valuable lesson from this, screw clean underwear, the doc has seen it, deep conditioning people! you never know when your viking locks are going to be on tv as for sidpe, though my friend, i think as a newbie overclocking the processor on every thing i should be looking for and be mindful of is what did me in, you can see me double mirror check then head check to be really sure nothing it to my left while skipping the obvious what if that guy in front of me stops all of the sudden for no reason? (i say no reason because in my mind i was worried about the cyclist (having ridden this same route on a pedo many times) once he was clear it felt like nothing would slow traffic until the next light, good time to get to a safer lane. mmmm concrete, tasty. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 09:12 AM	#25
RedKat600 Joined: May 2011 From: LaCenter, WA I Ride: 2003 Copper SV1K	What were you looking at? Was it the cop car or were you looking behind you to change lanes? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 10:23 AM	#26
staffordworks Permit Joined: Sep 2012 From: Bainbridge Island, Wa I Ride: 1995 BMW K75	i was doing a head check after mirror check to take the left lane, at least with my mall mirrors its just too easy to miss someone right next to you so i always look as i'm about to move over. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 11:31 AM	#28
Jeffytune Shredder Joined: Jul 2009 From: Beaverton I Ride: Harley FLHT	I hate to be critical of you sir, but I have a couple questions. 1) What were you looking at on the side of the road that was so important? (The Girl or the cop car with the lights on) 2) It looks like you were on a 1 way street, and the bus's were turning left at the last light, so the lane to your left was clear, why didn't you just go into the left lane and pass the car? 3) Did you apply the rear brake or just use the front? I am not trying to bust your chops, I just wanted to point out that you had other options and that it is very important to know what the hell going on it front of you, not the side of the road. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 11:42 AM	#29
staffordworks Permit Joined: Sep 2012 From: Bainbridge Island, Wa I Ride: 1995 BMW K75	1) again, doing a head check to change lanes, not looking at anyone/thing 2) changing lanes in intersection is illegal (and in front of a cop) 3) the second core f' up here was no rear brake, no time to get my foot on it, I had about 3 feet when i saw the vw. no worries busting my chops, already did that myself 12x over i keep hearing about swooping, not sure how that can be done at 5mph in 3 feet, i can see doing that at 20+ in 10 or 20 feet, i practice that with manholes and such, pretending i've just noticed a road hazard. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 11:46 AM	#30
LivnLife4Fun Licensed Joined: Feb 2010 From: Poulsbo, WA I Ride: that's right, I #^($* RIDE!!!	sucks that happened but glad you didn't get run over by the vehicle behind you!!! do you know the 'your back to bike, one hand on handlebar the other hand on the grab rail, lever it up with your legs' method of picking up the bike by yourself? Anyone with a heavy bike needs to know this. Might find yourself with a tipped over bike in a parking lot full of people not moving a muscle to help you pick it up __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 11:51 AM	#32
staffordworks Permit Joined: Sep 2012 From: Bainbridge Island, Wa I Ride: 1995 BMW K75	i've read about it but until i try it I won't know if i got it, I think the hardest part doing that solo would be not droping it over the other way unless you were right side down and remembered to drop the kickstand __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 12:12 PM	#34
nancejd Peg Dragger Joined: Jul 2007 From: Snohomish, WA I Ride: 2007 ZX10R, 1981 CB750, 1977 TS250	It looks like you were riding in the center of the lane right behind the car. That's a lane position I rarely adopt. I would have been on either the left or the right side of my lane, probably the left side if I was intending to change to the left lane. Being off center can give you that extra little bit of time you need to stop or simply go around. As for checking to your left, that's a good thing, but once the bus on the left was stopping and you were going by, the lane would have to be clear, gas it and go. Being aware is good, hesitating can get you hurt. Glad you're OK though. Personally, I hate riding in Seattle. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 01:05 PM	#36
staffordworks Permit Joined: Sep 2012 From: Bainbridge Island, Wa I Ride: 1995 BMW K75	I had gloves in the saddle bag, doesn't that work? I also need armored gear, been working on that, glad i didn't need either this time. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 01:15 PM	#37
djacobsen5116 Endorsed Joined: Jul 2010 From: Mercer Island, WA I Ride: 2009 Yamaha FJR1300	Picking up a heavy bike Tried the "back to the bike" to pick up a bilke routine lately with a FJR? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 01:53 PM	#39
dwschultzy Race Qualifier Joined: Nov 2007 From: . Blog Entries: 2	Situational awareness is key to riding a motorcycle safely....anywhere. Your head check after the mirror check was waaaaay to long. Mirrors are tools, learn to use those tools quickly and effeciently. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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