Holy Explative, this is Very not good.

prophetnoise · 08-23-2011, 11:45 AM

Glad i gave the bike a once over before going for a ride.

Now, to weld it, buy a new frame, or part out the bike and buy a different one.

Any ideas on how this could have happened? (And no, I didn't crash.)

dartmanx5 · 08-23-2011, 11:54 AM

Looks pretty clean and smooth to be anything other than a cut.

Have it welded, it's not like it won't be plenty strong afterwards.

MichelinMan · 08-23-2011, 12:00 PM

How could it randomly get cut like that? Did you ever look it over that in-depth before?

It looks like it's bolted together too... lol

coastiepete · 08-23-2011, 12:11 PM

Jesus!

Heavy-T · 08-23-2011, 12:14 PM

That must be one of them fancy frames!

koorbloh · 08-23-2011, 12:17 PM

was there a weld there? if so, poor welding?

looks like it might be a 2 piece design (for engine removal), but that triangle piece is what is the issue....if so, it should be a much easier fix than you're thinking.

1shinysideup · 08-23-2011, 12:33 PM

check this out

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...assemblies/282

it appears they made it this way

dwschultzy · 08-23-2011, 12:55 PM

lol

stupid manufacturers.....better rush out and buy a new bike

Bondy3 · 08-23-2011, 12:58 PM

i see nothing wrong...

66 Enfield · 08-23-2011, 01:00 PM

Looks like a clean cut...makes no sense..

Alanjtc73n · 08-23-2011, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by 1shinysideup

check this out

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...assemblies/282

it appears they made it this way

Uh, yup. Frame is made that way. Nothing wrong.

boostleak · 08-23-2011, 01:26 PM

Broken weld on the motor mount looks like it could be a problem. Looks like an easy fix.

prophetnoise · 08-23-2011, 03:30 PM

I've definitely looked over this bike in depth, several times. I check it every few weeks. It's an old bike. They need extra attention. Also, my friends with old bikes have looked it over. Also, the shops i've been to. Also, Tues Night Coffee people. There's no way we could have all missed it. There is no rust at the breakpoint. It's new.

And no, it's not supposed to be like that. It's not a 2 pc frame ;o) Here is the other side, one solid frame pipe:

The engine mount is on both sides of each downtube of the frame (Aka: 2 mounts per downtube) Then the crash bar mounts onto the engine mount. There was no welding there from before i bought the bike. I mean, there's a slim possibility that i never noticed a critical weld on the frame of my bike. But, i've examined the bike over and over. :o\

Either way, to fix the frame, replace the frame, or part it out, i have to completely teardown the bike. {sigh} Might go for something a little more modern.

1shinysideup · 08-23-2011, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by 1shinysideup

check this out

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...assemblies/282

it appears they made it this way

did you not click the link??

Edit* can you shoot a pic of what it looks like from the front? If anything, have it welded, between the weld and that fancy get up holding it together I'd ride it.

dartmanx5 · 08-23-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by 1shinysideup

did you not click the link??

Obviously not......

Dur Dah Dur!!!!

dwschultzy · 08-23-2011, 03:35 PM

koorbloh · 08-23-2011, 03:39 PM

piece 2 is the piece you think is broken.

but piece 4 the piece you should make sure is fine. if it's fine, it's fine.

prophetnoise · 08-23-2011, 03:40 PM

I clicked the link. I mispoke when i said it's not a 2 piece. But, at the same time, the engine mount isn't supposed to be bent, and the pieces should probably be lined up, not offset the way they are. You can't see it from the angle of my pic, but the two frame pieces do not line up at all, when looking straight on.

dwschultzy · 08-23-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by prophetnoise

I clicked the link. I mispoke when i said it's not a 2 piece. But, at the same time, the engine mount isn't supposed to be bent, and the pieces should probably be lined up, not offset the way they are. You can't see it from the angle of my pic, but the two frame pieces do not line up at all, when looking straight on.

Now you're just reaching for straws.

Nothing there looks bent other than factory bends. Maybe you should take it to a proffessional, one who knows what kind of "special care" your bike needs and let them make the assertion as to whats bent.

prophetnoise · 08-23-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by koorbloh

piece 2 is the piece you think is broken.

but piece 4 the piece you should make sure is fine. if it's fine, it's fine.

Yup. Pieces 3 and 4 are the mounts holding the frame parts together, and are visible bent askew. That's why the downtubes don't line up, and there is a gaping space between them.


08-23-2011, 11:45 AM	#1
prophetnoise Licensed Joined: Dec 2010 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 1979 Honda CB750K	Holy Explative, this is Very not good. Glad i gave the bike a once over before going for a ride. Now, to weld it, buy a new frame, or part out the bike and buy a different one. Any ideas on how this could have happened? (And no, I didn't crash.) __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 11:54 AM	#2
dartmanx5 Superbiker Joined: Mar 2010 From: Rock Island,WA/ Volcano, HI I Ride: ^That^	Looks pretty clean and smooth to be anything other than a cut. Have it welded, it's not like it won't be plenty strong afterwards. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:00 PM	#3
MichelinMan Joined: May 2007 From: The Wet Eastside I Ride: CBR 600RR	How could it randomly get cut like that? Did you ever look it over that in-depth before? It looks like it's bolted together too... lol __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:11 PM	#4
coastiepete Novice Racer Joined: Apr 2007 From: Youngstown NY I Ride: Speed Triple, GS750, KX 500, 450 EXC-R, KH400, MXZ 700 Renegade	Jesus! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:14 PM	#5
Heavy-T Shredder Joined: Apr 2006 From: Richland, Washington I Ride: Whatever strikes my fancy for the day...	That must be one of them fancy frames! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:17 PM	#6
koorbloh Je Fa Fa Joined: Mar 2007 From: Monroe-mish, WA Blog Entries: 5 I Ride: 07 YZ450F, 74 XL350, 78 CB400	was there a weld there? if so, poor welding? looks like it might be a 2 piece design (for engine removal), but that triangle piece is what is the issue....if so, it should be a much easier fix than you're thinking. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:33 PM	#7
1shinysideup Streetfighter Joined: Feb 2007 From: Seattle I Ride: 06 600RR	check this out http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...assemblies/282 it appears they made it this way __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:55 PM	#8
dwschultzy Race Qualifier Joined: Nov 2007 From: . Blog Entries: 2	lol stupid manufacturers.....better rush out and buy a new bike __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 12:58 PM	#9
Bondy3 Shredder Joined: Mar 2011 From: Seattle I Ride: 04 636 (silver /w black flames)	i see nothing wrong... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 01:00 PM	#10
66 Enfield Pit Crew Joined: May 2007 From: Closer than you think! I Ride: 2 wheeled ones.	Looks like a clean cut...makes no sense.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 01:26 PM	#12
boostleak Permit Joined: Jun 2010 From: Aloha, Oregon I Ride: Buell XB9S	Broken weld on the motor mount looks like it could be a problem. Looks like an easy fix. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 03:30 PM	#13
prophetnoise Licensed Joined: Dec 2010 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 1979 Honda CB750K	I've definitely looked over this bike in depth, several times. I check it every few weeks. It's an old bike. They need extra attention. Also, my friends with old bikes have looked it over. Also, the shops i've been to. Also, Tues Night Coffee people. There's no way we could have all missed it. There is no rust at the breakpoint. It's new. And no, it's not supposed to be like that. It's not a 2 pc frame ;o) Here is the other side, one solid frame pipe: The engine mount is on both sides of each downtube of the frame (Aka: 2 mounts per downtube) Then the crash bar mounts onto the engine mount. There was no welding there from before i bought the bike. I mean, there's a slim possibility that i never noticed a critical weld on the frame of my bike. But, i've examined the bike over and over. :o\ Either way, to fix the frame, replace the frame, or part it out, i have to completely teardown the bike. {sigh} Might go for something a little more modern. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 03:35 PM	#16
dwschultzy Race Qualifier Joined: Nov 2007 From: . Blog Entries: 2	__________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 03:39 PM	#17
koorbloh Je Fa Fa Joined: Mar 2007 From: Monroe-mish, WA Blog Entries: 5 I Ride: 07 YZ450F, 74 XL350, 78 CB400	piece 2 is the piece you think is broken. but piece 4 the piece you should make sure is fine. if it's fine, it's fine. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


08-23-2011, 03:40 PM	#18
prophetnoise Licensed Joined: Dec 2010 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 1979 Honda CB750K	I clicked the link. I mispoke when i said it's not a 2 piece. But, at the same time, the engine mount isn't supposed to be bent, and the pieces should probably be lined up, not offset the way they are. You can't see it from the angle of my pic, but the two frame pieces do not line up at all, when looking straight on. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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