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Old 06-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #1
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I Ride: 12' Honda CBR250R
CBR250R 600 mile service - huh?
So I need to get the 600 mile service done for my CBR250 and the shops around here are telling me it's the standard issue for the oil change $30-$45 or so. But it also needs to undergo a valve inspection and adjustment if needed.

Apparently that's about $330 or so in labor.

Should I bother to have this done? I'm all for proper maintenance on my bike, but I'm just wondering if this inspection after 600 miles on my valves is really worth it?

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:36 PM   #2
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Ouch... I hope not...

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:38 PM   #3
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Shame the first service didn't come in the sale price.

Worth it? If your valves are out of adjustment..........yes! Are you a gambling man?

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:43 PM   #4
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Where'd you buy the bike at?

Contact farron @ gixxertek .. He might be able to give you a better deal.

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:45 PM   #5
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What are the chances of the valves being out of adjustment on a 250 after 1000 miles of riding?

What are the possible problems if they are?

Would I be able to tell from the idle/way the bike rides/etc that the valves are out of adjustment?

Just called up the place that sold me the bike, the first service is not free.

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:49 PM   #6
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Just get a service manual and do it yourself or with a buddy who offers to help for beer... Valve check/adjustments are easy enough for most garage mechanics to accomplish.

I think it's pretty important to do that, though. Skipping it just adds a lot of question marks to the engine's health. Do you want to ride around wondering if things are working okay?

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:52 PM   #7
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LOL valve inspection/adjustment@ 600mi!?!?!??! Please look at your service manual first before taking it to a dealer. If the manual calls for an inspection @ 600 miles then by all means do so. BUT if it doesn't then I smell shady dealers trying to make a buck.

For reference, my '11 R1 calls for its first valve inspection/adjustment @ ~24,000 miles.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:00 PM   #8
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If this was used, I'd wholly agree w/ Galen. Trying to avoid voiding the warranty and all that. Brand spanking new motors are probably gonna have a lot of metal debris from "wearing in". It is in your best interest to do the valve adj. for piece of mind by someone good that won't void the warranty (reputable dealer or shop that doesn't have to be the one you bought it from, etc.). I know some people would change their new motors oil more often, just to clear the motor of said debris. Once broken in, regular intervals would be fine (per manual).

Ask around (this site)... there will be some good recommendations that come up...like bubba zennetti, gixxertek, guys like that. Locally, we have EDR that have done a couple valve adj. and their work won't void your warranty...you want someone like that w/ a new ride and a warranty still in effect.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:05 PM   #9
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This sounds like it is making more sense to me. Thanks Jason.

The manual does call for a valve inspection after 600 miles.

But honestly what the heck is the point of that on a lower power bike like mine?

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:07 PM   #10
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If this was used, I'd wholly agree w/ Galen. Trying to avoid voiding the warranty and all that. Brand spanking new motors are probably gonna have a lot of metal debris from "wearing in". It is in your best interest to do the valve adj. for piece of mind by someone good that won't void the warranty (reputable dealer or shop that doesn't have to be the one you bought it from, etc.). I know some people would change their new motors oil more often, just to clear the motor of said debris. Once broken in, regular intervals would be fine (per manual).

Ask around (this site)... there will be some good recommendations that come up...like bubba zennetti, gixxertek, guys like that. Locally, we have EDR that have done a couple valve adj. and their work won't void your warranty...you want someone like that w/ a new ride and a warranty still in effect.
This is what I was thinking about as well with it being a new motor. But if a brand new R1 asks for a valve adjustment at 24k miles then what the heck?!

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:07 PM   #11
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More RPM's more of the time = more wear. Smaller engines have to work harder than big ones.

It's just an initial inspection to make sure you didn't get any soft valve shims, soft cam or other defective part.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:13 PM   #12
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Ok so after checking out CBR250.net it seems like it is going to be a good idea to do it.

Didn't think to go there first.

I'll look into these local fellas posted up and see what it will run me to go with them.

Lake City Power Sports and some shop down in Auburn want about $400 bucks between the valve inspection/adjustment + oil change.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:21 PM   #13
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This sounds like it is making more sense to me. Thanks Jason.

The manual does call for a valve inspection after 600 miles.

But honestly what the heck is the point of that on a lower power bike like mine?
I am a firm believer in following manufacturer maintenance guidelines 100%. If the manual calls for it, I would definitely schedule that service or learn how to do it yourself.

Also, there are a ton of local reputable shops around here. Faron @ Gixxertek would most likely be the first person I'd call.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:24 PM   #14
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The new yamahas use titanium valves, correct? I'm sure the cheapest CBR there is, uses the cheapest parts there are. It's also why an r1 is 12k, and the cbr is 4100.

It's also a single cylinder engine... I was under the impression that those wear very quickly because of how they have to be made.

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:29 PM   #15
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More RPM's more of the time = more wear. Smaller engines have to work harder than big ones.

It's just an initial inspection to make sure you didn't get any soft valve shims, soft cam or other defective part.
Exactly. I'd be surprised if it needed adjustment. But if the factory suggests it, it's a good idea to take a peak in there to make sure everything is good.

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Old 06-05-2012, 02:02 PM   #16
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Is the CBR also shim under bucket like the R1? That could be a factor in adjustment intervals. It was either a Ninja 250 or 500 I worked on that just had adjustment screws, so the interval was shorter but the job itself was much easier than having to remove the cams, and put in shims with different thicknesses. Chances are your CBR will be a really easy job.

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Old 06-05-2012, 02:27 PM   #17
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Petey, I can walk you through a valve adjust in my garage. I've got the tools you'll need. PM if interested.

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Old 06-05-2012, 02:29 PM   #18
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The new yamahas use titanium valves, correct? I'm sure the cheapest CBR there is, uses the cheapest parts there are. It's also why an r1 is 12k, and the cbr is 4100.

It's also a single cylinder engine... I was under the impression that those wear very quickly because of how they have to be made.
Yes they use titanium valves. And that's true with regard to being a single cylinder, they might wear more quickly

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Old 06-05-2012, 02:35 PM   #19
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So I just spoke with Gixxertek.

Gixxertek = $160 or less

Lake City Power Sports = $400

Bike Shop in Auburn = $390

I'm probably going to be a customer of his for as long as I am living in the Seattle area.

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Old 06-05-2012, 02:42 PM   #20
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So I just spoke with Gixxertek.

Gixxertek = $160 or less

Lake City Power Sports = $400

Bike Shop in Auburn = $390

I'm probably going to be a customer of his for as long as I am living in the Seattle area.
FYI, Farron is down in Tacoma, that's quite deep for someone who lives in Lynnwood.

Also, Grant is a lot closer to you and would only cost you some really good cheap beer and he'll show you how to do it so you know how to do it in the future.

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