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Old 10-06-2012, 10:01 AM   #1
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I Ride: 2013 Gasgas 300xc w/lic plate + 1985 RZ350 + 2010 YZ250F +
is there an issue with current model rmz250 cluthes?
My bro-in-law bought a 2011 rmz250 and has had a tough time getting the stupid clutch adusted. Either it has a lot of drag, not fully engaging or it has no free play at the other end and slips. He has tried a new cable and lever that pulled more cable, but that mostly increases his arm pump as it is now harder to pull. What's the deal? He is too big of a vag to ask, so I did.

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Old 10-06-2012, 12:25 PM   #2
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Take all the slack out of the cable adjustment, then tie the lever back to the grip and leave it that way overnight, then try adjusting it tomorrow.

I know this sounds like Rainman shit, just try it

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Old 10-06-2012, 01:05 PM   #3
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Is there an adjustment under the gas tank like on a sport bike?

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #4
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A perch/lever mismatch can be the cause.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:40 PM   #5
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My bro-in-law bought a 2011 rmz250 and has had a tough time getting the stupid clutch adusted. Either it has a lot of drag, not fully engaging or it has no free play at the other end and slips. He has tried a new cable and lever that pulled more cable, but that mostly increases his arm pump as it is now harder to pull. What's the deal? He is too big of a vag to ask, so I did.
Sounds like the new lever fixed the issue but introduced arm pump, from what he claims is too harsh of a pull. I'm inclined to believe that... but on the other hand, I know a lot of arm pump can come from lever position. I run my clutch and brake pretty close and it really cut down on the amount of arm pump I get. Perhaps try the same?

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Old 10-08-2012, 01:23 PM   #6
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I think he is just a pussy. He wants a two finger pull without it hitting him in the fingers that are on the bar grip. It just seems like there is a lot of clutch drag and wont fully engage. To make things worse, he installed a rekluse that does the same thing, except lets the engine stall. He has always been fighting the cable pull thing, though.

This is all for trail riding, so i dont get his arm pump issues. He probably just tries too hard to keep up with me is all.

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Old 10-08-2012, 01:36 PM   #7
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Hmmm... quite possibly!

I don't know how to get a two finger clutch pull that doesn't wack your remaining fingers... I just suffer through it!

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Old 10-08-2012, 03:00 PM   #8
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Hmmm... quite possibly!

I don't know how to get a two finger clutch pull that doesn't wack your remaining fingers... I just suffer through it!
Hydro clutch....loved the one on my KTM.

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Old 10-08-2012, 04:22 PM   #9
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I told him he should have bought a Yamaha, which is what he sold to get this.

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Old 10-19-2012, 07:24 AM   #10
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Check the "fingers" on the clutch basket, where the disks engage the basket.
These quickly get grooved and cause disks to be very sticky/jerky.
Stock MX baskets don't last very long on for serious MX applications.
I always use Hinson baskets.
It may also have stiffer clutch springs.
My son is a serious MX racer and he likes super stiff clutch springs, lots of tension on clutch lever, but no slippage out of the gate.
And if a recall correctly, in 2010ish, suzuki had some problems with warped disks/baskets, but in those case the clutch disks generally grenaded.

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Old 10-19-2012, 09:56 AM   #11
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Good idea on the Hinson basket. He tried to find one, but is too cheap to buy a new one. He only wants used.

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