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TRAIL BOSS · 08-12-2008, 11:27 PM

So I'm looking into some aftermarket lighting for my 10, and I was wondering if anyone knew how much wattage the stock system can handle? I've found some 100w monsters online that would be inSANE, but I don't wanna fry anything. An important note is that these lights will be replacing the stock headlamps, so I'm starting w/ zero wattage.

Dumb question, I'm sure, but wiring and lighting are f'ing Greek to me.

JohnnyM · 08-12-2008, 11:30 PM

If you want pure unadulterated light, go with an HID conversion. They make units that retrofit most bulbs and run at a lower wattage than incandescent.

xratedrr · 08-12-2008, 11:31 PM

HIDs are the shit. best thing you can do for yourself if you ride at night! I love mine, its the first thing I will to any other bike I buy!

TRAIL BOSS · 08-12-2008, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyM

If you want pure unadulterated light, go with an HID conversion. They make units that retrofit most bulbs and run at a lower wattage than incandescent.

I wanted to, until I saw the friggin price tag.

The other problem is that the current lights I have now are non-standard, so finding the HID conversion will be ghey.

I want to bolt up some PIAA Dichroics (sp)... mmm.

xratedrr · 08-12-2008, 11:34 PM

you can see how bright an HID low beam is compared to a standard high beam. My kit was a retrofit done by me with a balast and harness from a new lexus. $Free.99

TRAIL BOSS · 08-12-2008, 11:36 PM

Scratch that. Kit is less than the price of new lights. I'm all over this shiat.

Thanks guys!!!

bubba_zenetti · 08-12-2008, 11:36 PM

me can gets you quality HID conversion for $299. 2 bulbs set.

halogen is ghey and for the weak

xratedrr · 08-12-2008, 11:37 PM

there are companies online that sell conversion bulb clips so you can slide the HID bulb in the same place as the original in any headlight bucket.

JohnnyM · 08-12-2008, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by TRAIL BOSS

I wanted to, until I saw the friggin price tag.

The other problem is that the current lights I have now are non-standard, so finding the HID conversion will be ghey.

I want to bolt up some PIAA Dichroics (sp)... mmm.

If you look around, you can find dual bulb systems of excellent quality for under $120, and under $80 if you're running a single bulb.

I've found a retrofit for everything from a typical H4 to much more obscure ones like H13, H10, H8 and even an H1! What retrofit are you looking for? Do you want to maintain a low/high beam? It can be done purely in HID...don't fall for the retrofit kits that use a regular halogen for the high beam...

If you do insist on using PIAA, I would recommend the Xtreme White instead of the Dichroics...better usable light spectrum without melting the plastic headlight housing and bike wiring.

The only reason I run them instead of HID is because I also have modulators...otherwise I would have HID in everything...

TRAIL BOSS · 08-13-2008, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by xratedrr

there are companies online that sell conversion bulb clips so you can slide the HID bulb in the same place as the original in any headlight bucket.

Those are what I'm looking at now...

Originally Posted by JohnnyM

If you look around, you can find dual bulb systems of excellent quality for under $120, and under $80 if you're running a single bulb.

I've found a retrofit for everything from a typical H4 to much more obscure ones like H13, H10, H8 and even an H1! What retrofit are you looking for? Do you want to maintain a low/high beam? It can be done purely in HID...don't fall for the retrofit kits that use a regular halogen for the high beam...

If you do insist on using PIAA, I would recommend the Xtreme White instead of the Dichroics...better usable light spectrum without melting the plastic headlight housing and bike wiring.

The only reason I run them instead of HID is because I also have modulators...otherwise I would have HID in everything...

Nah, don't need PIAA if I can get HID inside my Dominator housings... looking to replace a pair of H4's with the bi-xenon (hi/low beam) setup.

Originally Posted by bubba_zenetti

me can gets you quality HID conversion for $299. 2 bulbs set.

halogen is ghey and for the weak

Can you get me a bi-xenon setup for that price?

EDIT: PM SENT. I'll probably call you in the AM, too.

vagrant · 08-13-2008, 07:13 AM

as previously stated, the conversion kits are all very similar and run ~$90-$120 (I havent found any of the $90 ones yet) - these dont include the projectors - they expect you to plug them into your stock reflector housing. My issues is that I was looking at it as a stock headlight replacement - which means I need the projectors too.

And then there is the issue with having to go through state inspection. Im a lot concerned about whether they would pass a non-standard projector setup.

ninjaofdoom · 08-13-2008, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by bubba_zenetti

me can gets you quality HID conversion for $299. 2 bulbs set.

halogen is ghey and for the weak

299?!? OUCH. Unless that includes housings.

TB, go to starrotors.com. A friend of mine has their setup and its NICE. 119, no tax, free shipping. SLIM digital ballasts (what you want) in any color temp you want. Thats for 2 bulbs/ballasts.

These are just bulbs, no reflectors. Installation is def more of a pain if you need housings too, but worth it. HIDs in the wrong housing are bright, but throw light everywhere....

TRAIL BOSS · 08-13-2008, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by ninjaofdoom

299?!? OUCH. Unless that includes housings.

TB, go to starrotors.com. A friend of mine has their setup and its NICE. 119, no tax, free shipping. SLIM digital ballasts (what you want) in any color temp you want. Thats for 2 bulbs/ballasts.

These are just bulbs, no reflectors. Installation is def more of a pain if you need housings too, but worth it. HIDs in the wrong housing are bright, but throw light everywhere....

Thanks mang! Good lookin' out for a fellow SF. :MRGREEN:

wordsareforplay · 08-13-2008, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by vagrant

as previously stated, the conversion kits are all very similar and run ~$90-$120 (I havent found any of the $90 ones yet) - these dont include the projectors - they expect you to plug them into your stock reflector housing. My issues is that I was looking at it as a stock headlight replacement - which means I need the projectors too.

And then there is the issue with having to go through state inspection. Im a lot concerned about whether they would pass a non-standard projector setup.

??

You have projector headlights already tiger...

vagrant · 08-13-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by wordsareforplay

??

You have projector headlights already tiger...

uhhhhh shudup! you know what I meant. but do I....(that is the real question)?

hang on...can you remove the projector housings from our headlight assy's? or are they integral?

wordsareforplay · 08-14-2008, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by vagrant

uhhhhh shudup! you know what I meant. but do I....(that is the real question)?

hang on...can you remove the projector housings from our headlight assy's? or are they integral?

Well...

Alright so you don't have two true projectors. The high beam is...the low beam is diffused to spread the light around.

If you want true true projectors, you can do something like this...or this kit

Or you can just buy bulbs and be done with it.


08-12-2008, 11:27 PM	#1
TRAIL BOSS Streetfighter Joined: Apr 2007 From: Arlington, WA I Ride: A fast bike, VERY slowly.	Headlamp limitations? So I'm looking into some aftermarket lighting for my 10, and I was wondering if anyone knew how much wattage the stock system can handle? I've found some 100w monsters online that would be inSANE, but I don't wanna fry anything. An important note is that these lights will be replacing the stock headlamps, so I'm starting w/ zero wattage. Dumb question, I'm sure, but wiring and lighting are f'ing Greek to me.

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08-12-2008, 11:30 PM	#2
JohnnyM MotoGP Champion Joined: Jul 2006 From: Pullman, WA I Ride: '73 CB350F, '86 VFR750F, '00 Aprilia RS250, '04 Aprilia RSV1000 R Factory, '07 Vstar 1100 Classic	If you want pure unadulterated light, go with an HID conversion. They make units that retrofit most bulbs and run at a lower wattage than incandescent.


08-12-2008, 11:31 PM	#3
xratedrr Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Bothell, washington I Ride: In the rain. You should clean the sand out of your vagina and do the same. You live in washington ya know?	HIDs are the shit. best thing you can do for yourself if you ride at night! I love mine, its the first thing I will to any other bike I buy!


08-12-2008, 11:34 PM	#5
xratedrr Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Bothell, washington I Ride: In the rain. You should clean the sand out of your vagina and do the same. You live in washington ya know?	you can see how bright an HID low beam is compared to a standard high beam. My kit was a retrofit done by me with a balast and harness from a new lexus. $Free.99


08-12-2008, 11:36 PM	#6
TRAIL BOSS Streetfighter Joined: Apr 2007 From: Arlington, WA I Ride: A fast bike, VERY slowly.	Scratch that. Kit is less than the price of new lights. I'm all over this shiat. Thanks guys!!!


08-12-2008, 11:36 PM	#7
bubba_zenetti MotoGP Contender Joined: Dec 2005 From: bothell I Ride: hayaboosta	me can gets you quality HID conversion for $299. 2 bulbs set. halogen is ghey and for the weak


08-12-2008, 11:37 PM	#8
xratedrr Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Bothell, washington I Ride: In the rain. You should clean the sand out of your vagina and do the same. You live in washington ya know?	there are companies online that sell conversion bulb clips so you can slide the HID bulb in the same place as the original in any headlight bucket.


08-13-2008, 07:13 AM	#11
vagrant Zone Head Joined: Mar 2008 From: Seattle, WA	as previously stated, the conversion kits are all very similar and run ~$90-$120 (I havent found any of the $90 ones yet) - these dont include the projectors - they expect you to plug them into your stock reflector housing. My issues is that I was looking at it as a stock headlight replacement - which means I need the projectors too. And then there is the issue with having to go through state inspection. Im a lot concerned about whether they would pass a non-standard projector setup.