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"Despite this usage, the symbol has become stigmatized and to some extent taboo in the Western world because of its iconic usage by Nazi Germany, and it has notably been outlawed in Germany if used as a symbol of Nazism (usage of the sign by religious groups is tolerated)." Forbidden was too strong. But, it is a symbol used with great approbation in the West and in many other parts of the world. ![]()
I'm sure you can go ahead and use it, as you might nigger, if you want to be an insensitive prick and have no one think you are in the slightest funny. Free speech and free to be a dick. It's the American way. ![]() | ||
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| MotoGP Champion | I think 1909 preceded the rise of Hitler on the world timeline. Your point is moot. |
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| MotoGP Champion ![]() Joined: Jul 2006 From: Pullman, WA I Ride: '73 CB350F, '86 VFR750F, '00 Aprilia RS250, '04 Aprilia RSV1000 R Factory, '04 Aprilia RSV1000 R Factory, '07 Vstar 1100 Classic | Last edited by JohnnyM; 10-31-2009 at 11:43 PM.. |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Jul 2008 From: medford, oregon I Ride: 06 GSX-R 1000 | ![]() just you wait, in 5 years time it will have a whole new meaning![]() |
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| MotoGP Champion | ^^^I think "ignorant Westerner" applies largely to you and your ilk, who fail to appreciate the significance of history on our collective psyche. But, I know how you all believe. History began the day you was born. |
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| MotoGP Champion | ![]() It is argued and rightly so that the symbol was not ruined for many people who used it for centuries prior to Hitlers use. It is still valued by American Hopi indians, although not used (mostly abandoned) through continued harassment of ignorant fucks who believe history of the symbol began in 1920. The symbol is still important in many religions throughout the east. Yes the symbol is hated in Europe, there is another great reason to use it more. |
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| Intellectually Sphinctered Joined: Oct 2005 From: Camano Island I Ride: cuz levitating takes way to much concentration | Not far enough Carry a bunch of hot dogs with you and say they are your "Anne Franks" Get the green goop and sneeze it on people and be a Snatzi have a friend go as a nazi stoplight and tell everyone hes De GesStopNgo Have someone go as the Hebrew hammer and walk in hand in hand singin Ebony and Ivory OOOh make an american captains head and carry it around with writing on its forhead that says "FUck Hogan" (Hogans Heros joke) Ok about an hour later start questioning the hebrew hammer and midway through the questionaing have him say What the fuck is this the Spanish Inquasition??? have three freinds rush in through the door and you know the rest (Mad insane props if you have access the the big comphy chair) There whomever said Nazis cant be funny GO FUCK YOURSELF obviously you need to lighten the fuck up cause the nazis were fuckin hilarity Last edited by KillermondoDude; 11-01-2009 at 12:58 AM.. |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Jan 2009 From: Portland,OR I Ride: S2R 800 | I understand that simply wearing the costume doesnt imply that he is a nazi. what I dont understand is the reason for doing it. why would you want to dress up as a nazi? why would you take something fun and interject such a hateful image if you in no way support it? you guys talk about witches and devils... these are fiction and legend. Are the lines so blurred for you that hitler and the nazis (which are still around by the by are in the same league as horror icons and religious boogymen? that is far more offensive to me then this dudes costume. |
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Maybe history is still too real for the millions upon millions who suffered through that dark period. Maybe Nazis can be derided in another hundred years when everyone who suffered at their hands is dead and everyone who had relatives who died there is also dead. But, I like the fact that we in the West found their behaviour and their philosophy so abhorrent that we still criticize others for not treating it with the gravity that it deserves. Think of it as cracking jokes at someone's funeral. To many people, including me, think it is in poor taste even more than 50 years after Nazism was defeated. | |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Oct 2008 From: Hermiston, OR I Ride: 2007 Yamaha FJR 1300 | Get used to seeing that kind of stuff, it's coming again, hell if the prince of england can dress that way why not this guy. All i want to know whats with all the chick hair shit and cream stuff on the counter. maybe his chick made him wear the uniform. |
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| | #93 | |
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I was responding to the specific "ignorant westerner." I should have simply said DUH! We trash the ancients who lived largely with symbols and gods guiding them through life. We have allowed gods and symbols to enter into our lives and now we allow ourselves to trash people who use them wrongly??? How absofuckinglutly insane! It is a simple design, a bunch of lines, meaningless to us who don't associate them with hate or death. I am less than concerned about the OPs use of the character or the symbol and more concerned with the people who want to judge the use symbols and gods. You people are missing the boat. It is this mentality which gives gangs power and builds fear, through stupid symbols and impossible gods! Just like the fear of Hitler and the swastika. Oh my god! | |
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| MotoGP Champion | ^^^Then you won't mind me shitting on the American flag or burning it, right? It's just a simple design, a bunch of lines, meaningless. |
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| MotoGP Champion | ![]() You think so little of this country you voted for a Kenyan. Nuf said! |
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| WMRRA Qualifier | Well, nobody asked for my opinion, but by talking about this for so long you've brought it on yourselves. 1) I think the OP, being dark complected, has NO CHANCE of being taken as anything other than a mockery of Hitler/Nazi. Or a complete fool, depending on his own behavior while in this costume. 2) It may be distasteful, but that is his right. As it is our right to discuss it and express our opinions 3) We should not ever forget or belittle what was done by Adolf Hitler. Lest it happen again... |
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| Endorsed Joined: Sep 2008 From: burien, washington I Ride: to forget! | its halloween, there are no fucking rules, have fun...dress like MJ with a bottle of pills or Steve Irwin sportin a stingray, who gives a shit, I cant believe so many people are attempting to cry over a costume, fuck it, dress like the economy and spread your butt cheeks, there is seriously more important stuff to have a problem with! |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Jun 2008 From: Blaine,Washington I Ride: the hands of time...... | in 100 years....no one will care what happened on this day!.....enjoy life and have fun.....dont worry be happy!.....now isnt this a forum for riders?????or has it changed????? ![]() |
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| Pit Crew Joined: May 2009 From: talent, oregon I Ride: XB9r FirebolT | rock on everyone! personally, its pretty interesting the rise my costume got! needless to say, i did survive halloween night with a few dirty looks! the only person who said something was some kid dressed as moses (but he looked more like yassir arrafat) who said its just plain mean. nobody else had the drive, the spirit, the willpower and balls like TRANSPORTED or SHREK have to stand up for their opinions! all in all, a good night, and it turns out i was taken only as a mockery of hitler, who knew? maybe its the tattoos and gauged ears...maybe the dark complection...or maybe its the fact history only starts when were born! because afterall, were just IGNORANT to lessons of the past... |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | ![]()
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | ![]()
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | ![]()
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | ![]()
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"Hmmm, let's see here. American, American, American, American ... oh, here it is: Kenyan. That's the one for me!" ![]() | |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | ![]() ![]() |
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| Zone Head Joined: May 2008 From: spokane I Ride: Ian's. Fastly | ![]()
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| Training Wheels Joined: Feb 2009 From: Medfeeeeerd, OrYGUN I Ride: Aprilia RSV1000, Honda CR250/320cc :) and life in general! | oh dear god! how did i miss this thread for almost 2 days!!!!!!!!!! two years ago in the midst of terroist chrises i dressed up as the spittin image of osam bin laden, wig, beard, turbin, robe, gun, and even dyed all my skin and everyone here has to flip this much shit over a not even very real looking hitler COSTUME?! what is this world coming to....... HALLOWEEN.... anyone ever heard of it? its a holiday when you dress up as weird and offensive people/things........ oh... didnt think so |
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| Mr. 500,000 ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland I Ride: VTX | That whole "weird and offensive" thing must be new. Figure its because kids don't get to play with fireworks or go to real good haunted houses, or maybe its an Oregon thing were there is a serious lack of respect and dignity. Soooo edgy and controversial... oooooo ![]() |
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| Pit Crew Joined: May 2009 From: talent, oregon I Ride: XB9r FirebolT | ![]() ![]() |
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| Mr. 500,000 ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland I Ride: VTX | ![]()
pretty fucking typical and hypocritical. you dont wanna hear what people have to say about it... dont fucking ask dumbshit Last edited by Shrek X; 11-01-2009 at 04:32 PM.. | |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | ![]()
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| Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2009 From: Medford, Oregon I Ride: a pretty pissed off GSXR | had an X1 for a while. Loved it. they're sick bikes. |
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| Mr. 500,000 ![]() Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland I Ride: VTX | ![]() looser... fucking typical, cant handle a little hard truth. |
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