2010 Honda VFR 1200F - Page 2

RVFR · 12-12-2009, 07:02 PM

^ ain't that the truth, you would have thought it was the only bike there, all I wanted was time to get a decent photo, but no folks where all over it.

UFO · 12-13-2009, 09:32 AM

I've been holding back judgment until I saw it in the flesh, hoping that I would have a better opinion of it.

I don't.

What a disappointment. I've been waiting for a larger bore VFR for 10 years. Seeing the VFR1200F in person left me with a profound sense of "meh." Nothing about the bike seemed cool to me, all I saw was cold efficiency. Ergos are about the same as the current VFR. The tank has a huge hump that seems to just be begging to sucker punch you in the solar plexus during a quick stop.

The single sided shaft drive is f'ing HUGE.

The exhaust is a bad joke.

Instruments are pretty minimalistic, and features (for a $16,000 bike) are almost non-existent. The bike isn't that big, but it's a pig for weight. Are there lead bricks hidden in there somewhere?

Fuel capacity (and reported range) is a travesty on a bike that's being marketed the way this one is.

On the plus side the paint was really nice, on the negative side Honda NA in their infinite wisdom is only allowing buyers a single color "choice."

This bike is a huge disappointment, aesthetically, feature wise, and price. It's completely out of touch with the market. Don't ask for a premium price if you aren't going to offer premium features. Don't design ugly bikes. Don't make a bike weight 50-100 lbs more than it needs to.

I would say nice try Honda...but you missed the mark by a mile.

RedVFR · 12-13-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by UFO

I've been holding back judgment until I saw it in the flesh, hoping that I would have a better opinion of it.

I don't.

What a disappointment. I've been waiting for a larger bore VFR for 10 years. Seeing the VFR1200F in person left me with a profound sense of "meh." Nothing about the bike seemed cool to me, all I saw was cold efficiency. Ergos are about the same as the current VFR. The tank has a huge hump that seems to just be begging to sucker punch you in the solar plexus during a quick stop.

The single sided shaft drive is f'ing HUGE.

The exhaust is a bad joke.

Instruments are pretty minimalistic, and features (for a $16,000 bike) are almost non-existent. The bike isn't that big, but it's a pig for weight. Are there lead bricks hidden in there somewhere?

Fuel capacity (and reported range) is a travesty on a bike that's being marketed the way this one is.

On the plus side the paint was really nice, on the negative side Honda NA in their infinite wisdom is only allowing buyers a single color "choice."

This bike is a huge disappointment, aesthetically, feature wise, and price. It's completely out of touch with the market. Don't ask for a premium price if you aren't going to offer premium features. Don't design ugly bikes. Don't make a bike weight 50-100 lbs more than it needs to.

I would say nice try Honda...but you missed the mark by a mile.

Yes, this. We seem to share the same overall opinion of this new VFR and in my humble opinion, Honda needs to listen to the riding public.

Questionable aesthetics seem to go hand in hand with aerodynamics, and that I can handle, but all the over-engineering has added weight and $$$ to it and is wasted on the guys that really want the bike, and want it to be a PROGRESSION of what came before, not an effin' MUTATION.

About the only things I do like is the simplicity, size, and layout of the instrumentation and the engine. Scrap the rest and go back to the 5th and 6th gen and start over from there. I'd even accept it at the same weight it used to be if the suspension wasn't so entry level and get rid of linked braking already. If you must put ABS on it, how about the system in the CBR?

This VFR should have gone straight to replacing the ST1300.

beansbaxter · 12-13-2009, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by redvfr

this vfr should have gone straight to replacing the st1300.

Silver788 · 12-13-2009, 08:19 PM

I like it and I want one. I wont give up my SV1000S or my KLR but as a replacement for my current VFR it will be a nice touring bike. I learned my lesson about buying first year of a new model so I wont be doing that either but..;l Next year mid season I will start shopping around for one!! My current VFR has over 60,000 miles. I hate the ST1300 its just to big period.

Grantizzle · 12-13-2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Silver788

I hate the ST1300 its just to big period.

have you ever ridden one?

Gotama · 12-13-2009, 08:28 PM

it felt nice to throw a leg over it

Silver788 · 12-13-2009, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Grantizzle

have you ever ridden one?

I rode an st1100 for 6 months a few years back. I rode an st1300 on a test ride a few months ago. I just do not like the feel. The brakes are weak in tight twisties. I slid the ass end around a lots. Even thought the new VFR is bigger then mine it isnt that much bigger. everything falls into place when I sit on it. Have you ever ridden any of the ST models? The VFR is still fun in the mountains like a sport bike.

Arnbo · 12-13-2009, 08:47 PM

Horrid

mattinski · 12-14-2009, 05:02 PM

That sweeping expanse of plastics is way too much. The whole thing lacks a sense of style to me. Nothing really innovative. Its heavy. and that $16,000 price tag will separate the old VFR riders from whoever they think is going to want this. I doubt it will be the Connie or FJR crowd. Its hard to see what market they are aiming this bike.

zedx9 · 12-15-2009, 06:44 PM

Please pass the Multistrada

DGA · 12-16-2009, 09:54 AM

I think the bike looks good, and I liked it's smaller size. What really got to me is how flimsy the plastic feels, on the gas tank, and how small the instrument cluster is. For the same money you can buy the big 1300cc BMW, which arguably looks a lot better.

ruining · 12-16-2009, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by beansbaxter

I'm not feelin it, but my wife sure would be if she was riding on the back. I think they are just hoping the women will be begging for their husbands to buy this after the test ride. Function over form. Who cares what it looks like with a Sibian on the back?

Skwrl · 01-05-2010, 09:20 PM

its very nice in my opinion, they not only tried to be diffrent but added some very nice modern design elements, the double layered fairings are awsome, the front end isnt the best, and it sure as hell looked better in concept stage, but its a good looking bike.


12-12-2009, 07:02 PM	#21
RVFR Pilot in Command Joined: Dec 2005 From: Olympia, WA Blog Entries: 11 I Ride: Honda............Ducati?	^ ain't that the truth, you would have thought it was the only bike there, all I wanted was time to get a decent photo, but no folks where all over it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2009, 09:32 AM	#22
UFO Training Wheels Joined: Nov 2009 From: Denial	I've been holding back judgment until I saw it in the flesh, hoping that I would have a better opinion of it. I don't. What a disappointment. I've been waiting for a larger bore VFR for 10 years. Seeing the VFR1200F in person left me with a profound sense of "meh." Nothing about the bike seemed cool to me, all I saw was cold efficiency. Ergos are about the same as the current VFR. The tank has a huge hump that seems to just be begging to sucker punch you in the solar plexus during a quick stop. The single sided shaft drive is f'ing HUGE. The exhaust is a bad joke. Instruments are pretty minimalistic, and features (for a $16,000 bike) are almost non-existent. The bike isn't that big, but it's a pig for weight. Are there lead bricks hidden in there somewhere? Fuel capacity (and reported range) is a travesty on a bike that's being marketed the way this one is. On the plus side the paint was really nice, on the negative side Honda NA in their infinite wisdom is only allowing buyers a single color "choice." This bike is a huge disappointment, aesthetically, feature wise, and price. It's completely out of touch with the market. Don't ask for a premium price if you aren't going to offer premium features. Don't design ugly bikes. Don't make a bike weight 50-100 lbs more than it needs to. I would say nice try Honda...but you missed the mark by a mile. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by UFO; 12-13-2009 at 09:37 AM..


12-13-2009, 08:19 PM	#25
Silver788 Peg Dragger Joined: May 2008 From: Multnomah Village I Ride: 1998 VFR800 Interceptor, 02 XR650R, 93 DR650, 04 ZX10R	I like it and I want one. I wont give up my SV1000S or my KLR but as a replacement for my current VFR it will be a nice touring bike. I learned my lesson about buying first year of a new model so I wont be doing that either but..;l Next year mid season I will start shopping around for one!! My current VFR has over 60,000 miles. I hate the ST1300 its just to big period. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2009, 08:28 PM	#27
Gotama Novice Racer Joined: Oct 2008 From: Camp kwitcherbitchen Blog Entries: 3 I Ride: for me	it felt nice to throw a leg over it __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-13-2009, 08:47 PM	#29
Arnbo Shredder Joined: Jul 2008 From: Ferndale washington I Ride: Dazed and Confused	Horrid __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-14-2009, 05:02 PM	#30
mattinski Licensed Joined: May 2008 From: Lakewood, WA I Ride: '07 GSXR1000, '06 gixxer 600 track bike, '08 CBR1000RR gone but not forgot...	That sweeping expanse of plastics is way too much. The whole thing lacks a sense of style to me. Nothing really innovative. Its heavy. and that $16,000 price tag will separate the old VFR riders from whoever they think is going to want this. I doubt it will be the Connie or FJR crowd. Its hard to see what market they are aiming this bike. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-15-2009, 06:44 PM	#31
zedx9 Pit Crew Joined: Oct 2006 From: Redmond, Oregon I Ride: Yes I do!	Please pass the Multistrada __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-16-2009, 09:54 AM	#32
DGA Joined: Jun 2007 From: Portland, Oregon I Ride: naked	I think the bike looks good, and I liked it's smaller size. What really got to me is how flimsy the plastic feels, on the gas tank, and how small the instrument cluster is. For the same money you can buy the big 1300cc BMW, which arguably looks a lot better. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


01-05-2010, 09:20 PM	#34
Skwrl Ninja Master Joined: May 2009 From: seattle Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: through T5 & T6 like it's a runway.	its very nice in my opinion, they not only tried to be diffrent but added some very nice modern design elements, the double layered fairings are awsome, the front end isnt the best, and it sure as hell looked better in concept stage, but its a good looking bike. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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