The Pace - Page 2

RideSlow2004 · 04-22-2010, 06:33 AM

truth

dscott3509 · 04-22-2010, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Desvio

Awesome, this should be required reading!

Funny, you gave me a copy and made it required reading before you rode with me. A great article.

YotaSupra · 04-22-2010, 07:27 PM

That article should be stickied and linked to posted rides.

First thoughts after reading: Should be common sense. Past few public "rides" are evidence of common sense being left at home.
There's been times in the past where I've left my own common sense at home on a few of those things as I think back to my own riding while reading this article. We all do at some point in time with at least one or two things from the article.

I fully agree with the article in regards to when a new rider joins the ride. In light of the recent "newbie rides", are they really newbie rides? Speaking from the experience of the exact moment of learning what "ride your own ride" means by nearly crashing by riding over my head after watching the leader in front of me take off like a bat out of hell; that means nothing really to a new rider who is in process of learning what their "ride" is. If it did mean something, or if they fully understood what it meant, they wouldn't crash or almost crash after being told "ride your own ride". I'm pretty sure that a new rider is looking to those in front of them for an idea of what kind of pace to go, what lines to take through corners, ect. A lot of people are visual learners and learn by watching, then doing.

my .02 take on this article in relation to current events; for what it's worth.

Dr. E · 04-22-2010, 07:32 PM

Good idea...done!

WolfNman · 04-27-2010, 10:28 AM

I just read this article for the first time, but that is exactly my mentality for street riding.

"Anyone with a right arm can hammer down the straights; it's the proficiency in the corners that makes The Pace come alive."

and there's the answer to why I ride the sv and not a 'busa...

Saber63 · 04-27-2010, 11:25 AM

i used to ride like this...

however i have gained such a need for speed that i havent ridden on the street in a long while. and plan only on track days...

however i printed this, and plan on reading over it a few times and hopefully mid summer i can be abit more zen like for some street riding

Thanks for making this a sticky so everyone sees it. as i missed it till now

-Levi

WRtard · 04-27-2010, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Eloc

I've seen this before and ride the pace but I can't recall where I saw it first, is that out of twist of the wrist?

Nope....not Keith Code. Nick Ienatsch is a journalist and a former AMA #1 plate holder. The Pace came out in the '80s in one of the bike mags, then became a series.

He also has an updated version in the book "Sport Riding Techniques" The whole book is excellent, if any of you like what you just read in the OP....check out the whole book.

saltlick · 04-27-2010, 12:28 PM

good article. I think the best thing ANYONE can do in a group ride situation is say to themselves....F the guy in front of me, im going my own pace if he pulls away too often. I have many times caught myself trying to keep up with the guy in front of me for no other reason than my own ego..thats it. I have to try to look through him like hes invisible and forget about him. Its the hardest thing to do on a group ride.

Dr. E · 02-03-2011, 01:42 AM

Another year and with folks starting to ride its time for another bump!

ashfoot · 02-03-2011, 06:16 AM

Good article!

You should come on our "girls rides", we'll show you "The Pace" :D

Hayaku · 02-03-2011, 07:57 AM

This year I'm making it a point to encourage any riders I meet to do a track day or two.
Most of you are familiar with the phenomenon, but it was a new feeling to me of not having to go fast on the street after being on the track last summer/fall. For whatever reason, being WOT already in a relatively safe environment really toned down the wrist twisting on the street.
Is it that I had already proven to myself how fast I can go? (and how quickly I can get myself into trouble) Not sure, but since Ienatsch wrote this from the perspective of a track rider/racer who then rides public roads, I think I understand The Pace better after a few track days.

Dr. E · 02-13-2011, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by ashfoot

Good article!

You should come on our "girls rides", we'll show you "The Pace" :D

Any chance to meet new folks who love bikes, riding, and getting out on good roads...as long as work does not shut me down!

I have no issue with whether the ride be set by male or female. There are many girls who can set a pace that far exceeds my level of ability. I can learn from anyone and will be willing to show me the way...I can follow.

redliter · 03-07-2011, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by YotaSupra

That article should be stickied and linked to posted rides.

First thoughts after reading: Should be common sense. Past few public "rides" are evidence of common sense being left at home.
There's been times in the past where I've left my own common sense at home on a few of those things as I think back to my own riding while reading this article. We all do at some point in time with at least one or two things from the article.

I fully agree with the article in regards to when a new rider joins the ride. In light of the recent "newbie rides", are they really newbie rides? Speaking from the experience of the exact moment of learning what "ride your own ride" means by nearly crashing by riding over my head after watching the leader in front of me take off like a bat out of hell; that means nothing really to a new rider who is in process of learning what their "ride" is. If it did mean something, or if they fully understood what it meant, they wouldn't crash or almost crash after being told "ride your own ride". I'm pretty sure that a new rider is looking to those in front of them for an idea of what kind of pace to go, what lines to take through corners, ect. A lot of people are visual learners and learn by watching, then doing.

my .02 take on this article in relation to current events; for what it's worth.

Well said.

Bondy3 · 03-29-2011, 05:06 PM

I generally do this on my own anyways, Im paranoid of getting anotther ticket, so I slow down to the speed limit in the straight and right before the corners I accelerate into a good cornering speed, and go all the way around the corner and then after the corner I slow down to the limit again while I wait for the next corner. Ive maxed out my bike in the straight before and all I really was thinking about was "I wonder how crappy gas mileage im getting at 160mph"

its so easy to go 100% on the throttle, but not so easy to drag knee (or drag hand, because you dont need to clutch in a corner)

sixfootdan · 05-07-2011, 06:47 AM

Good read, Been riding a long time and it still freshens up the brain a bit.

Sirena · 06-19-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by ashfoot

Good article! You should come on our "girls rides", we'll show you "The Pace" :D

Originally Posted by Dr E

Any chance to meet new folks who love bikes, riding, and getting out on good roads...as long as work does not shut me down!

I have no issue with whether the ride be set by male or female. There are many girls who can set a pace that far exceeds my level of ability. I can learn from anyone and will be willing to show me the way...I can follow.

I think I first read this article just as I was learning to ride, so it is not so much a philosophy or a strategy, it is just part of how I ride. The best way I could explain it to someone recently was that mostly I don't speed up on the straights and I don't brake for turns.

That is just part of it of course, it is also about safety, smart boundaries, representing riders to the non-riding community, non-competitiveness, caring for your riding mates, staying attuned to the group etc. This is all fundamental to how we roll on the "girls rides" - I think that's what Ashfoot was saying.

Dr. E · 02-20-2012, 02:31 AM

Here we are again at the start of a new riding season. My hope this year is everyone has a great year with no accidents. Remember, its not always about how fast you get somewhere but taking the time to enjoy where you are...

TwistedTimes · 02-20-2012, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Shire

Here we are again at the start of a new riding season. My hope this year is everyone has a great year with no accidents. Remember, its not always about how fast you get somewhere but taking the time to enjoy where you are...

many different versions of that, but still the best way of stating it!

YOUNG HEART 750 · 02-20-2012, 11:08 AM

This is a must read in my oppinion. I try to encourage everyone I know and ride with to give it a read at least once and a once a year refresher never hurts either.
Now I want to get the authors book to go into my growing library.

firedad · 02-20-2012, 11:58 AM

Got it on my favorites and try to read it a few times each year.


04-22-2010, 06:33 AM	#21
RideSlow2004 Shredder Joined: Sep 2006 From: Auburn, WA I Ride: Harley	truth __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-22-2010, 07:27 PM	#23
YotaSupra Shredder Joined: Feb 2008 From: MLT I Ride: Scooter	That article should be stickied and linked to posted rides. First thoughts after reading: Should be common sense. Past few public "rides" are evidence of common sense being left at home. There's been times in the past where I've left my own common sense at home on a few of those things as I think back to my own riding while reading this article. We all do at some point in time with at least one or two things from the article. I fully agree with the article in regards to when a new rider joins the ride. In light of the recent "newbie rides", are they really newbie rides? Speaking from the experience of the exact moment of learning what "ride your own ride" means by nearly crashing by riding over my head after watching the leader in front of me take off like a bat out of hell; that means nothing really to a new rider who is in process of learning what their "ride" is. If it did mean something, or if they fully understood what it meant, they wouldn't crash or almost crash after being told "ride your own ride". I'm pretty sure that a new rider is looking to those in front of them for an idea of what kind of pace to go, what lines to take through corners, ect. A lot of people are visual learners and learn by watching, then doing. my .02 take on this article in relation to current events; for what it's worth. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-22-2010, 07:32 PM	#24
Dr. E Theoretical Propagandist Joined: Oct 2008 From: Dry Shiddies WA I Ride: 03 Busa, 08 Busa, 89 Transalp	Good idea...done! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-27-2010, 10:28 AM	#25
WolfNman Endorsed Joined: Feb 2010 From: EP, OR I Ride: 05 Titanium Z1000	I just read this article for the first time, but that is exactly my mentality for street riding. "Anyone with a right arm can hammer down the straights; it's the proficiency in the corners that makes The Pace come alive." and there's the answer to why I ride the sv and not a 'busa... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-27-2010, 11:25 AM	#26
Saber63 Chicken Strips Joined: Aug 2007 From: Kent, WA I Ride: like a newb	i used to ride like this... however i have gained such a need for speed that i havent ridden on the street in a long while. and plan only on track days... however i printed this, and plan on reading over it a few times and hopefully mid summer i can be abit more zen like for some street riding Thanks for making this a sticky so everyone sees it. as i missed it till now -Levi __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-27-2010, 12:28 PM	#28
saltlick Railer Joined: Mar 2009 From: Beaverton, Oregon I Ride: 04 Honda CBR 600RR	good article. I think the best thing ANYONE can do in a group ride situation is say to themselves....F the guy in front of me, im going my own pace if he pulls away too often. I have many times caught myself trying to keep up with the guy in front of me for no other reason than my own ego..thats it. I have to try to look through him like hes invisible and forget about him. Its the hardest thing to do on a group ride. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-03-2011, 01:42 AM	#29
Dr. E Theoretical Propagandist Joined: Oct 2008 From: Dry Shiddies WA I Ride: 03 Busa, 08 Busa, 89 Transalp	Another year and with folks starting to ride its time for another bump! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-03-2011, 06:16 AM	#30
ashfoot Shredder Joined: Mar 2009 From: Beaver-Town, OR Blog Entries: 6 I Ride: from cloud to cloud.	Good article! You should come on our "girls rides", we'll show you "The Pace" :D __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-03-2011, 07:57 AM	#31
Hayaku Pit Crew Joined: Jul 2009 From: past the Y I Ride: upstream.	This year I'm making it a point to encourage any riders I meet to do a track day or two. Most of you are familiar with the phenomenon, but it was a new feeling to me of not having to go fast on the street after being on the track last summer/fall. For whatever reason, being WOT already in a relatively safe environment really toned down the wrist twisting on the street. Is it that I had already proven to myself how fast I can go? (and how quickly I can get myself into trouble) Not sure, but since Ienatsch wrote this from the perspective of a track rider/racer who then rides public roads, I think I understand The Pace better after a few track days. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-29-2011, 05:06 PM	#34
Bondy3 Shredder Joined: Mar 2011 From: Seattle I Ride: 04 636 (silver /w black flames)	I generally do this on my own anyways, Im paranoid of getting anotther ticket, so I slow down to the speed limit in the straight and right before the corners I accelerate into a good cornering speed, and go all the way around the corner and then after the corner I slow down to the limit again while I wait for the next corner. Ive maxed out my bike in the straight before and all I really was thinking about was "I wonder how crappy gas mileage im getting at 160mph" its so easy to go 100% on the throttle, but not so easy to drag knee (or drag hand, because you dont need to clutch in a corner) __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-07-2011, 06:47 AM	#35
sixfootdan Permit Joined: Apr 2011 From: (fruhm) –preposition 1. (used to specify a starting point in spatial movement)	Good read, Been riding a long time and it still freshens up the brain a bit. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-20-2012, 02:31 AM	#37
Dr. E Theoretical Propagandist Joined: Oct 2008 From: Dry Shiddies WA I Ride: 03 Busa, 08 Busa, 89 Transalp	Here we are again at the start of a new riding season. My hope this year is everyone has a great year with no accidents. Remember, its not always about how fast you get somewhere but taking the time to enjoy where you are... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-20-2012, 11:08 AM	#39
YOUNG HEART 750 Licensed Joined: Sep 2010 From: KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON I Ride: 09 GSX-R 750 Track 07 Aprilia Tuono Street 09 Yamaha R1 sold	This is a must read in my oppinion. I try to encourage everyone I know and ride with to give it a read at least once and a once a year refresher never hurts either. Now I want to get the authors book to go into my growing library. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-20-2012, 11:58 AM	#40
firedad Railer Joined: Mar 2010 From: The shallow end of the gene pool I Ride: Faster than I should	Got it on my favorites and try to read it a few times each year. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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