What do you look for to spot a new/less experienced rider? - Page 3

NoQuarter#121 · 04-24-2010, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Flaerion

As for myself, I likely have a ton of lazy habits that I exhibit around town that totally disappear when I'm actually concerned about form and accuracy.

My $.02?

Practice the way you play.

Really.

You want to develop muscle memory so that when the shit hits the fan (and it will) you can instinctively react.

Flaerion · 04-24-2010, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by NoQuarter#121

My $.02?

Practice the way you play.

Really.

You want to develop muscle memory so that when the shit hits the fan (and it will) you can instinctively react.

Admitting the problem is the first step to correcting it.

I'd improve more if I could identify the ideal forms and postures for what I'm doing at the present time, but again, I ride alone and have done so pretty much since I got my bike. I've only ridden with one other person, and that is really minimal.

So I'll raise you 2 cents and put up another 2. I'll willingly listen to someone who wants to take the time to teach me. I'm just jobless and lack funds to hit the track or more MSF courses. I'm down to the graces of others. I just feel its an imposition to ask another rider to watch what I'm doing on the street because of all the other hazards associated with riding on the streets. That's not relaxing in my eyes, and kinda defeats the purpose of going out and riding like we do.

Then again, I'm only into my 2nd year on a bike, I think all I can afford to speak is about 2 cents worth in terms of things relating to experience.

dragracer1951 · 04-24-2010, 12:19 PM

You can usually tell who to look out for in the parking lot before the ride. It's not that hard to tell. I don't know if I can verbalize the different things, but they are obvious when you see them.
I got rear ended by a relatively inexperienced rider a year and a half ago. Totaled my bike and his.
I don't ride with many people I don't know pretty well any more.

mfrankpdx · 04-24-2010, 12:24 PM

The act surprised when a motard passes them.

Cherrios · 04-24-2010, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by dwschultzy

on pnw group rides......its easy to spot

its usually the guys who go out of their way and get to the front of the group before you're out of the parking lot

That's why I like sweep.

dragracer1951 · 04-24-2010, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by mfrankpdx

The act surprised when a motard passes them.

Most of em get all pissy and tell ya you're riding way over your head.
Funny really...

Suzuki Stevo · 04-24-2010, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Cherrios

That's why I like sweep.

Ok Rob, I give up, what is that in your avatar??

Cherrios · 04-24-2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Suzuki Stevo

Ok Rob, I give up, what is that in your avatar??

Too quick to give up, how about a clue?

Hell with the clue: inside of an omni-directional scanner while on . I was trying to slow down the shutter speed enough to catch the 50 lasers but just would not come out right.

Harley · 04-24-2010, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Cherrios

That's why I like sweep.

same

pjd · 04-24-2010, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cherrios

That's why I like sweep.

Shitty lines, wobbling in corners, stiff thousand yard stare rather than paying attention to what's going on around them.

Also guys that manage to turn their blinkers on for a turn but don't turn them off.

*blink*
*blink*
*blink*
*blink*
*blink*
etc

Cleophus James · 04-24-2010, 01:58 PM

1. People riding in large groups.

gpd323 · 04-24-2010, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by dragracer1951

You can usually tell who to look out for in the parking lot before the ride. It's not that hard to tell. I don't know if I can verbalize the different things, but they are obvious when you see them.

Its usually the goob with the umbrella protecting his farkles before a wet ride that I stay away from!

rogera · 04-24-2010, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by koorbloh

rogera, you put too much emphasis on formation. if i don't ride in formation, but can handle myself on the road, am I a noob anyway?

lots of y'all seem to think, like normal on this forum that "anything contrary to what I do is wrong/noob".

when I ride with someone (which I do rarely) I look for things like running wide, and counter leaning, and too much emphasis on things that don't matter, like chicken strips.

That was why I tried to note that cruisers and sport bikes generally have different ride styles... Most the larger cruiser rides we go on expect the riders to be in formation and encourage the group to ride tight. It gets a lot more challenging with a large mix of riders... and realize there are often 50-100+ bikes in the group. So if you don't keep it tight everyone gets scattered really easily. Different type of ride than a sport bike group heading for the twisties..

handicappedfunhouse · 04-24-2010, 08:38 PM

Suspect that everyone is a noob/squid/beginer then process of elimination from there.

dscott3509 · 04-24-2010, 09:24 PM

I just look in the mirror and see myself as a noob/less experienced rider. If I'm riding with others, I want to make sure I'm out of their way so they can have a good time.

handicappedfunhouse · 04-24-2010, 09:34 PM

Or you all can just test your selves to see

http://www.bytebrothers.org/SquidTest.htm

Transported · 04-24-2010, 10:03 PM

Anybody who isn't me.

Seriously, though, it's a certain fidgeting, almost as if they're on speed, a nervous energy.

Guys and girls who've been riding for years settle into their bikes like it's a warm bath.

dragracer1951 · 04-25-2010, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by gpd323

Its usually the goob with the umbrella protecting his farkles before a wet ride that I stay away from!

Well, I wasn't gonna mention that but...

And Trans hit it. Newbs have a certian nervousness to them.

Stringcheese · 04-25-2010, 05:39 AM

Death grip on the bars and locked elbows are a dead giveaway. In the parking lot prior to taking off newbs do have a certain excitement the more experienced lack it's true. I tend to like rides of no more than 10 at most, even then I prefer 4 to 6.

smoothytaggert · 04-25-2010, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by pjd

Shitty lines, wobbling in corners, stiff thousand yard stare rather than paying attention to what's going on around them.

Also guys that manage to turn their blinkers on for a turn but don't turn them off.

*blink*
*blink*
*blink*
*blink*
*blink*
etc

NO SHIT - who yells in their helmet to tell the guy to shut his frickin G** DAMN POS BLINKERS OFF?... "hey - did you know after 10 miles you STILL haven't shut your fuckin blinkers off? To add to it I've been taking it personal the whole time after I YELLED AT you in my helmet and you never heard me!" -Classic shake head pound fist shrug shoulders-


04-24-2010, 12:19 PM	#43
dragracer1951 Joined: Sep 2005 From: Bremerton I Ride: 05 KTM 625smc, 03 Are See fiddy one, 05 DRZ470SM, 95 FZR1040, 69 Combat Commando Roadster, 73 Commando Interstate, 67 BSA B44, 71 BSA B50	You can usually tell who to look out for in the parking lot before the ride. It's not that hard to tell. I don't know if I can verbalize the different things, but they are obvious when you see them. I got rear ended by a relatively inexperienced rider a year and a half ago. Totaled my bike and his. I don't ride with many people I don't know pretty well any more. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-24-2010, 12:24 PM	#44
mfrankpdx Retired Joined: Jul 2007 From: Washington DC I Ride: Speed Triple	The act surprised when a motard passes them. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-24-2010, 01:58 PM	#51
Cleophus James Chicken Strips Joined: May 2008 From: Ross Ice Shelf I Ride: into town a-whompin an a-whoopin	1. People riding in large groups. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-24-2010, 08:38 PM	#54
handicappedfunhouse Licensed Joined: Feb 2009 From: Portland, Oregon I Ride: 12 speed huffy	Suspect that everyone is a noob/squid/beginer then process of elimination from there. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-24-2010, 09:24 PM	#55
dscott3509 Parts Collector Joined: Aug 2008 From: Milwaukie I Ride: Triumph Tiger 800	I just look in the mirror and see myself as a noob/less experienced rider. If I'm riding with others, I want to make sure I'm out of their way so they can have a good time. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-24-2010, 09:34 PM	#56
handicappedfunhouse Licensed Joined: Feb 2009 From: Portland, Oregon I Ride: 12 speed huffy	Or you all can just test your selves to see http://www.bytebrothers.org/SquidTest.htm __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-24-2010, 10:03 PM	#57
Transported Moto2 Contender Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland, Oregon Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: '06 FZ1, '99 R1, '80 Suz GS450S	Anybody who isn't me. Seriously, though, it's a certain fidgeting, almost as if they're on speed, a nervous energy. Guys and girls who've been riding for years settle into their bikes like it's a warm bath. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-25-2010, 05:39 AM	#59
Stringcheese Race Qualifier Joined: May 2008 From: Clarkinsas, WA I Ride: Whatever's next	Death grip on the bars and locked elbows are a dead giveaway. In the parking lot prior to taking off newbs do have a certain excitement the more experienced lack it's true. I tend to like rides of no more than 10 at most, even then I prefer 4 to 6. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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