What do you look for to spot a new/less experienced rider? - Page 6

Stringcheese · 04-25-2010, 06:10 PM

I'm not out to belittle noobs at all, I enjoy riding with people new to our sport at a controlled pace. What I think this thread is about is people showing up for a posted group ride and trying to keep up with more experienced people when they're clearly riding over their head. That and keeping your distance in case someone does something stupid. My comment about locked elbows/death grip on the bars applied to everyone riding over their head, me included. That's one of my telltales if I'm trying to keep up with faster folks...when I notice myself doing that I slow down which is what everyone should do IMHO.

That said, when you find a group of people with similar abilities and comfort zones it is awesome.

rogera · 04-25-2010, 07:41 PM

Well.. actually the intent of the thread was two fold.. First.. curiosity about what sport bike riders looked for to spot newer riders and what other cruiser riders looked for on cruiser rides.. Second.. to provide some input for newer riders to read in a non threatening way about things they might do that more experienced riders would not.

Remember, nobody is right or wrong in this one... everyone with much riding experience knows that they look for many things on rides to make it safe.. road hazards etc.. one of those things is probably also those riding nearest to you. If newer riders can hear some of those things in a somewhat positive way.. mabye they will change some of their habits sooner

cityxslicker · 04-25-2010, 08:43 PM

The Fender Eliminator.... and here is why. Because cutting it off with a hack saw or a sawzall say volumes about the tech skill. Because it is an appearance item that most new sport bike riders do; it is exaclty akin to carbon fiber addons to a CiViC Dx. (it accomplishes nothing) You do it to 'hide' your plate.... and why would you need to do that ?.... Or maybe you do it because want to put the upgraded 12 o clock bar back there.... or you saw it in a magazine and it is the official Sportbiker squidley Meme.

Feel better though. For the Harley crew it is the 'gingerbread' ie the purely decorative "Live to Ride, Ride to Live" or 'Skullz' or the big number 1, or the new 'dark custom' pieces; for the sense of being purely decorative.

And to verify the squidly-ness, said rider would have spend that money on the accessories before the protective gear.

Now am I an Expert , nope , compared to anybody that gets out does track days all the time, or MX whoopdees... but I know my limits, and ride with in them and with respect to the terrain and environment and the ride, and the bike.
Its a risky dangerous stupid world out there, the Newb fails to know it because they think they are invincible.

go out on a couple of group rides,... pay attention, If I am wrong I will be happy to eat crow... but then again 35 years o ridin, I stand by em.

BPWilsonCBRF3 · 04-25-2010, 10:36 PM

Well I've only had two full years of riding but the things I notice in riders less experienced than me are as follows:

Head and focus straight forward, ALWAYS. It helps to look around every once in a while, pay attention to your surroundings.

A complete unwillingness to take their hand off the bars.

usmcgunnerm4 · 04-25-2010, 11:55 PM

I look for stupid behavior.....I don't care if you've been riding for 1 year or 100. I tend to gravitate to guys who ride well within their limits. It's the guy who is slamming wheelies down behind cars on an arterial that I watch out for, or the guy who can't hold a line, etc.

I'm not the best rider in my group, ever.....and that's okay with me. As long as I can hold a good line and have fun doing it, I'm going to love riding. I have taken a few new riders under my wing previously, and usually I made them lead, so that they felt like they could ride whatever pace was comfortable. Just have to make sure that ego is checked at the door, otherwise it can get bad.

Pointman · 04-26-2010, 12:21 AM

I always enjoyed the "tippy toe walking" on take off......

Ti954 · 04-26-2010, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Pointman

I always enjoyed the "tippy toe walking" on take off......

Ah yes, the harley duckwalk always makes me laugh.

Harley · 04-26-2010, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ti954

Ah yes, the harley duckwalk always makes me laugh.

almost as good as the sport bike over rev and slow careful clutch let out, so as not to lose control

Ti954 · 04-26-2010, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Harley

almost as good as the sport bike over rev and slow careful clutch let out, so as not to lose control

But not nearly as funny as the harley tard freaking out putting their boat anchor on the kick stand because they've never leaned over that far.

cobra525 · 04-26-2010, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cherrios

That's why I like sweep.

I tried that once. I got bored and passed Donny

Originally Posted by Pointman

I always enjoyed the "tippy toe walking" on take off......

Is that a short joke? I resemble that remark

jnicola · 04-26-2010, 03:56 PM

I've found most people with a few simple questions will humbly fess up to being slightly lacking in experience. They don't fess up all the way to save face, but you can read into it pretty damn easy.

Harley · 04-26-2010, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ti954

But not nearly as funny as the harley tard freaking out putting their boat anchor on the kick stand because they've never leaned over that far.

Ill call you and raise you a sportbike rider burning thigh on pipe whilst wearing shorts

taznhell · 04-26-2010, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Harley

Ill call you and raise you a sportbike rider burning thigh on pipe whilst wearing shorts

I'll see you and raise a harley rider swerving out of control cuz the cherry on his cigarette flew into his eye.

Flaerion · 04-26-2010, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by taznhell

I'll see you and raise a harley rider swerving out of control cuz the cherry on his cigarette flew into his eye.

I rode behind a guy about a month ago on the 167... cigar chunks were raining down all over the lane behind him.

fastfoodfred · 04-26-2010, 05:54 PM

I look for people that brag about having two to three years experience. They don't realize they are still wet behind the ears, with just enough skills to figure out how to go fast, but out of control.

taznhell · 04-26-2010, 06:16 PM

I dont like riding with guys that pick their noses one booger to the face shield and I am ready to go home.

ChrisMag · 04-26-2010, 06:24 PM

I look for guys on clapped out Katanas with shorty mufflers.... err, sorry Robert.

Seriously though, stiff arms, lazy steering (on a sportbike), slow mid-corner speed and then full throttle out of the corner, etc.

elguyo18 · 04-26-2010, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by CodeBlue

This is why I don't ride with othe people. Too much judgement about shit that doesn't matter. Let me ride my motorcycle and I'll let you ride yours.

real talk!!

too much drama just ride!
or become a pro rider .

Real Fast Travis · 04-26-2010, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by cityxslicker

The Fender Eliminator.... and here is why. Because cutting it off with a hack saw or a sawzall say volumes about the tech skill. Because it is an appearance item that most new sport bike riders do; it is exaclty akin to carbon fiber addons to a CiViC Dx. (it accomplishes nothing) You do it to 'hide' your plate.... and why would you need to do that ?.... Or maybe you do it because want to put the upgraded 12 o clock bar back there.... or you saw it in a magazine and it is the official Sportbiker squidley Meme.

Dude, that whole comment is retarded on so many levels.

So, Since I want to clean up the look of the rear of my bike, I am a "noob" or "squid"?

I don't see how an appearance item screams noob.

And my fender eliminator doesn't hide my plate.

You need to get out more.

fastfoodfred · 04-26-2010, 07:56 PM

Sportin' bling indeed makes a guy a newb. Its the same sort of shit I did decades ago with large flush mount blinkers and pink windscreens. Its wasted money that does not improve the bike at all. That junk is for attention, like riding around with your weiner hanging out. Yes, I used to to that too. I suppose sometimes I still do that last one.


04-25-2010, 06:10 PM	#101
Stringcheese Race Qualifier Joined: May 2008 From: Clarkinsas, WA I Ride: Whatever's next	I'm not out to belittle noobs at all, I enjoy riding with people new to our sport at a controlled pace. What I think this thread is about is people showing up for a posted group ride and trying to keep up with more experienced people when they're clearly riding over their head. That and keeping your distance in case someone does something stupid. My comment about locked elbows/death grip on the bars applied to everyone riding over their head, me included. That's one of my telltales if I'm trying to keep up with faster folks...when I notice myself doing that I slow down which is what everyone should do IMHO. That said, when you find a group of people with similar abilities and comfort zones it is awesome. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-25-2010, 07:41 PM	#102
rogera Peg Dragger Joined: Aug 2008 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 07 Harley Softail	Well.. actually the intent of the thread was two fold.. First.. curiosity about what sport bike riders looked for to spot newer riders and what other cruiser riders looked for on cruiser rides.. Second.. to provide some input for newer riders to read in a non threatening way about things they might do that more experienced riders would not. Remember, nobody is right or wrong in this one... everyone with much riding experience knows that they look for many things on rides to make it safe.. road hazards etc.. one of those things is probably also those riding nearest to you. If newer riders can hear some of those things in a somewhat positive way.. mabye they will change some of their habits sooner __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-25-2010, 08:43 PM	#103
cityxslicker Streetfighter Joined: Nov 2007 From: Silverdale, Wa I Ride: Buell XB9SX City-X	The Fender Eliminator.... and here is why. Because cutting it off with a hack saw or a sawzall say volumes about the tech skill. Because it is an appearance item that most new sport bike riders do; it is exaclty akin to carbon fiber addons to a CiViC Dx. (it accomplishes nothing) You do it to 'hide' your plate.... and why would you need to do that ?.... Or maybe you do it because want to put the upgraded 12 o clock bar back there.... or you saw it in a magazine and it is the official Sportbiker squidley Meme. Feel better though. For the Harley crew it is the 'gingerbread' ie the purely decorative "Live to Ride, Ride to Live" or 'Skullz' or the big number 1, or the new 'dark custom' pieces; for the sense of being purely decorative. And to verify the squidly-ness, said rider would have spend that money on the accessories before the protective gear. Now am I an Expert , nope , compared to anybody that gets out does track days all the time, or MX whoopdees... but I know my limits, and ride with in them and with respect to the terrain and environment and the ride, and the bike. Its a risky dangerous stupid world out there, the Newb fails to know it because they think they are invincible. go out on a couple of group rides,... pay attention, If I am wrong I will be happy to eat crow... but then again 35 years o ridin, I stand by em. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-25-2010, 10:36 PM	#104
BPWilsonCBRF3 Railer Joined: May 2009 From: Vancouver NOT BC, Washington NOT DC I Ride: 96 CBR600F3iRR, 06 CBR600RR Track Bike	Well I've only had two full years of riding but the things I notice in riders less experienced than me are as follows: Head and focus straight forward, ALWAYS. It helps to look around every once in a while, pay attention to your surroundings. A complete unwillingness to take their hand off the bars. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-25-2010, 11:55 PM	#105
usmcgunnerm4 Washington (VA) Joined: Dec 2008 From: Spokane Valley, WA Blog Entries: 3 I Ride: an Italian	I look for stupid behavior.....I don't care if you've been riding for 1 year or 100. I tend to gravitate to guys who ride well within their limits. It's the guy who is slamming wheelies down behind cars on an arterial that I watch out for, or the guy who can't hold a line, etc. I'm not the best rider in my group, ever.....and that's okay with me. As long as I can hold a good line and have fun doing it, I'm going to love riding. I have taken a few new riders under my wing previously, and usually I made them lead, so that they felt like they could ride whatever pace was comfortable. Just have to make sure that ego is checked at the door, otherwise it can get bad. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-26-2010, 12:21 AM	#106
Pointman Novice Racer Joined: Aug 2008 From: Puget Sound I Ride: H-D	I always enjoyed the "tippy toe walking" on take off...... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-26-2010, 03:56 PM	#111
jnicola Shredical Joined: Aug 2009 From: Mt Hood OR Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: DIRT BIKES!!!!!!	I've found most people with a few simple questions will humbly fess up to being slightly lacking in experience. They don't fess up all the way to save face, but you can read into it pretty damn easy. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-26-2010, 05:54 PM	#115
fastfoodfred Moto2 Champion Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2008 SXV4.5 + 1985 RZ350 + 2010 YZ250F +	I look for people that brag about having two to three years experience. They don't realize they are still wet behind the ears, with just enough skills to figure out how to go fast, but out of control. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-26-2010, 06:16 PM	#116
taznhell Shredder Joined: Jul 2008 From: Cornelius, Oregon I Ride: Everyday	I dont like riding with guys that pick their noses one booger to the face shield and I am ready to go home. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-26-2010, 06:24 PM	#117
ChrisMag Peg Dragger Joined: Apr 2009 From: Portland, OR Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: 2011 Aprilia RSV4R APRC, 2009 KLR650	I look for guys on clapped out Katanas with shorty mufflers.... err, sorry Robert. Seriously though, stiff arms, lazy steering (on a sportbike), slow mid-corner speed and then full throttle out of the corner, etc. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


04-26-2010, 07:56 PM	#120
fastfoodfred Moto2 Champion Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2008 SXV4.5 + 1985 RZ350 + 2010 YZ250F +	Sportin' bling indeed makes a guy a newb. Its the same sort of shit I did decades ago with large flush mount blinkers and pink windscreens. Its wasted money that does not improve the bike at all. That junk is for attention, like riding around with your weiner hanging out. Yes, I used to to that too. I suppose sometimes I still do that last one. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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