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Old 05-22-2010, 02:31 PM   #1
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VFR 800 Valve Adjustment - 8 HOURS!?!?
Called Lake City Powersports to get an estimate on getting a valve adjustment and they said... 2.5 hours to check them, another 5 hours or so to adjust them. Does it really take this long? 2006 GSXR 600 only took a few hours. Am I missing something?

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Old 05-22-2010, 02:46 PM   #2
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Old 05-22-2010, 03:18 PM   #3
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That does seem pretty steep to me. I'm an equipment mech, not a Professional Motorcycle Technician, but I can check the valves on the CBR and have it put back together, while drinking beer, smokin and bs'in, in 1 hour.
Don't really understand unless there are some funky tight spots, or neccessity to drop the motor to shim/adust the valves, but that is a possibility. But that's the price you have to pay if your mechanical abilities are exceeded by the technology of the bike you ride. Ask around and see which one of your buddies is familiar with this procedure, and then learn how to do it yourself. You may even be surprised at how easy it really is.

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Old 05-22-2010, 03:38 PM   #4
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Go to VFRD there is some useful info about valves there

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Old 05-22-2010, 03:42 PM   #5
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I could see it taking twice as long with a V4.

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Old 05-22-2010, 04:07 PM   #6
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“ Quote:
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Called Lake City Powersports to get an estimate on getting a valve adjustment and they said... 2.5 hours to check them, another 5 hours or so to adjust them. Does it really take this long? 2006 GSXR 600 only took a few hours. Am I missing something?
Everything is dependent on if it is a V-Tec engine. Then yes that will be what you can expect to be quoted. Those also have "shims" that are actually the buckets. They suck.

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Old 05-22-2010, 05:44 PM   #7
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v-tec valve adj.... the dirty little secret.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:52 PM   #8
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with a vtec you have to pull the and reinstall the cams twice....6 to 8 hrs is about right...

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Old 05-22-2010, 06:56 PM   #9
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v-tec valve adj.... the dirty little secret.
FREE and clean, Ripp'n

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Old 05-22-2010, 06:58 PM   #10
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if you ain't doin' it yourself...

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Old 05-22-2010, 08:07 PM   #11
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Also those vtec motors were cam chains not gears so that is also going to add to the time. 8 hours sounds about right.

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Old 05-22-2010, 08:25 PM   #12
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Called Lake City Powersports to get an estimate on getting a valve adjustment and they said... 2.5 hours to check them, another 5 hours or so to adjust them. Does it really take this long? 2006 GSXR 600 only took a few hours. Am I missing something?
that bike is a royal pain the the ass to do. the shim buckets that cost like $25 a piece are a joy. what asshole engineer decided that it would be a good idea to stop using the 7.48mm shims and go to a bucket shim.

8 hours is it.

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Old 05-23-2010, 11:12 AM   #13
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Yet another reason to stay away from that friggen Vtec.

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Old 05-23-2010, 12:30 PM   #14
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Wow... a lot of work. Here's a site that will give you an idea of what's needed...
http://www.landofopus.com/motorcycle/valve_adj/

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Old 05-23-2010, 12:44 PM   #15
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Sounds like adjusring the valves on a ducati monster, every 6k miles it costs around $600-800 for the 6k service which is basically the valve adjustment. Big fin ripoff

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Old 05-23-2010, 01:49 PM   #16
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A v-tech v-four? Yeah, probably a bitch to do a valve adjustment. Stick to I-4s for easy/cheap maintenance.

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Sounds like adjusring the valves on a ducati monster, every 6k miles it costs around $600-800 for the 6k service which is basically the valve adjustment. Big fin ripoff
What do you do for a living? I would love to walk into your work and say you are ripping people off. I'm sure you tell the tech that "rip-off" bit when you bring your ride in for service.

If you aren't doing it yourself, then don't bitch about the price. Welcome to motorcycle ownership, it's expensive.

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Old 05-23-2010, 02:12 PM   #17
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I put about 24K on an '02 Vtec. Yes the valve adjust is expensive and time consuming, otherwise an enjoyable bike that can surprise supersports while being comfortable.
My philosophy was to never adjust the valves unless it started running funny - it never did. The worst that could happen is a burnt exhaust valve which wouldn't cost much more than the friggin' adjustment. Just ride it!

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Old 05-23-2010, 02:43 PM   #18
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I put about 24K on an '02 Vtec. Yes the valve adjust is expensive and time consuming, otherwise an enjoyable bike that can surprise supersports while being comfortable.
My philosophy was to never adjust the valves unless it started running funny - it never did. The worst that could happen is a burnt exhaust valve which wouldn't cost much more than the friggin' adjustment. Just ride it!
I'm pretty sure you could do a lot worse than a burnt exhaust valve. I've seen valves sucker punch a piston from too much lift.

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Old 05-23-2010, 03:03 PM   #19
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How would a valve gain lift by not adjusting the valves? If anything the clearances get tighter from seat wear. Thus the valves sit higher in the head further away from the pistons.

If you are getting loose valves from cam or bucket wear still then you are not gaining any lift.

Burned valves are yucky!
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Tell me a valve job is cheaper than a valve adjustment!
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But of course this was not due to tight valve clearances. Has more to do with 200k+ miles and worn the hell out valve guides.

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