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| Streetfighter Joined: Mar 2008 From: Kingston I Ride: the short bus ....... with your mom in the back. | |
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![]() ![]() Joined: Sep 2005 From: Bremerton I Ride: 05 KTM 625smc, 03 Are See fiddy one, 05 DRZ470SM, 95 FZR1040, 69 Combat Commando Roadster, 73 Commando Interstate, 67 BSA B44, 71 BSA B50 | Knobby Clarke shows up at the IoM every year with his Rc166. From a completely deserted paddock, there will be 100k people inside of 15 seconds when he lights it off. |
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| Permit Joined: Jun 2010 From: Redmond, WA I Ride: XL1200R, I know, your sportbike is faster, I don't care. | And a redline at 6,000 RPM, that's important. To make 66 hp at 5,400 RPM, the engine has to be making 64 ft-lbs of torque at that point. That's a lot of torque down a lot lower than where it usually occurs on a sportbike. There are a whole different set of design parameters to set up those characteristics. Yes, less torque and more revs will give more horsepower and more ability to take advantage of gearing, which is unquestionably better for the racetrack and other sporting needs, but that doesn't mean that a slow-revving engine biased towards lower-end torque doesn't have its own charm. As the British say, horses for courses. There's room for both types. I definitely believe that the Evo belongs on the list, if only for what it did for the company. With the exception of the engine in the Honda C90, there's no other engine on that list that did as much for its brand as the Evo did for Harley; the transition from the Shovelhead to the Evolution meant that Harley went overnight from a 25,000 mile engine to a 100,000 mile engine. I do have to agree with the poster who was surprised that BMW's air-cooled boxer was left off the list though. The R-series engines are legendary and did a lot to establish the BMW as an indestructible machine. |
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| Superbiker Joined: Sep 2008 From: Puyallup-ish I Ride: 04 CBR1k | ![]()
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| Peg Dragger Joined: Dec 2007 From: Eugene, OR I Ride: A bunch of Clown bikes.. | key word, Stock. |
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| Novice Racer Joined: Feb 2006 From: Dri-Shities, WA I Ride: 1972 Schwinn Sting-Ray | ![]() ![]() |
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| Knee Dragger ![]() Joined: May 2006 From: lively Hagadone area I Ride: 2/3rd gen Viffas 99KX250 04KTM400EXC 94VFR400R | I see these postings and remember my '92 1127... last of the greats before the ZUKES went to water and dropped the cc and poochied the frame design- 1054(2)... WTF... the one thing that bike was missing... 6th gear LOL RIP (-not really-) to my beloved 92GSXR1100... 10 years and a multitude of mushroomed valves, shit tons of body work, and grin twist throttle... stepping stone that's missed but not forgotten... that's my 2 cents... |
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| Railer | BMW boxer, oil heads. Bulletproof. Beautiful to look at. Iconic. Easy to work on. Probably more miles total than the GWs |
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| Superbiker Joined: Sep 2008 From: Puyallup-ish I Ride: 04 CBR1k | I think the list was more geared towards influential motors, not influential modifications. If that was the case, my vote would be for the Britten. Matter of fact, I think it should be on the list anyway. lol.. Eh.. A recent test that I read pitted big bore bikes head to head on the autobahn. #1 was the RSV4 at a few tenths shy of 190, and a ZX14 at a few tenths short of 189, IIRC. The busa was 3rd or 4th, again IIRC. But I remember being surpised that the busa wasn't the fastest. |
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| Moto2 Champion Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2008 SXV4.5 + 1985 RZ350 + 2010 YZ250F + | I think an honorable mention should be the old RZ350 motor. Had a good roadracer and dragracer followings, and is still a pretty potent runner in a 4wheeler. Being that Yamaha built it, I suppose it just belongs on the list, not as an honorable mention, though. |
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| Peg Dragger Joined: Dec 2007 From: Eugene, OR I Ride: A bunch of Clown bikes.. | The RD400/350/5 too.. |
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| Moto2 Champion Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2008 SXV4.5 + 1985 RZ350 + 2010 YZ250F + | Aprilia's SXV- 60 hp vtwin with 450 cc of hostility....and I don't even care for the vtwin engine at all, but when something gets outlawed for thinking out of the box and beating what was though of as the best of it's kind, it has got to be good! |
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| Shredder Joined: Feb 2008 From: Olympia, WA I Ride: Zx14 | I vote gen 1 hayabusa and s1000rr engines.... both ground breaking. Even though I don't like them, the bmw and goldwing engines have been known to go forever and ever. |
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