what is trail braking? - Page 4

Transported · 12-25-2010, 11:39 AM

Interesting. It sounds as if riding is riding, no matter where. The same physics rule. While trackies have to dodge other riders, streeties have to deal with an even wider variety of interference, but at slower speeds.

And, it's been said on this forum that only top pros can teach top pros. But, it seems that technique is universal and ones ability to explain it so that others can understand it is more important than being able to go fast.

For me, Code is a horrible explainer of technique. I have to read and re-read his stuff and then I still feel it's either over my head or he is too inarticulate to explain simple concepts. Then, I read something by Nick or Lee Parks and it is laughably simple to understand, because those guys know how to write.

fastfoodfred · 12-25-2010, 11:58 AM

Many instructors disagree on how to ride fast, or what is important to teach someone that wants to go fast. Its like having sex. Lots of ways to do it wrong, yet still get yours and her orgasm.
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dakh · 12-25-2010, 12:16 PM

Yup followed my buddy around ORP and noticed he is coasting on the off-camber to T13. Told him to gas it out of 12 then get on the brakes, he came back slapping his forehead since suddenly he could easily make a line he was struggling to get at without brakes. It's scary to get on the front brake when it's so much off-camber as it is there, but is definitely a faster way around.

shakazulu12 · 12-25-2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Transported

Interesting. It sounds as if riding is riding, no matter where. The same physics rule. While trackies have to dodge other riders, streeties have to deal with an even wider variety of interference, but at slower speeds.

And, it's been said on this forum that only top pros can teach top pros. But, it seems that technique is universal and ones ability to explain it so that others can understand it is more important than being able to go fast.

For me, Code is a horrible explainer of technique. I have to read and re-read his stuff and then I still feel it's either over my head or he is too inarticulate to explain simple concepts. Then, I read something by Nick or Lee Parks and it is laughably simple to understand, because those guys know how to write.

They stressed the class was just as much for street riders as it was for track guys quite a bit actually. In fact, several of the returning students were not even track or race guys and rode touring bikes.

shakazulu12 · 12-25-2010, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by dakh

Yup followed my buddy around ORP and noticed he is coasting on the off-camber to T13. Told him to gas it out of 12 then get on the brakes, he came back slapping his forehead since suddenly he could easily make a line he was struggling to get at without brakes. It's scary to get on the front brake when it's so much off-camber as it is there, but is definitely a faster way around.

After the class I can't wait to get to turn 3 at PIR, I constantly run wide there or have to slow down as the off camber makes me nervous, but I feel now I have a better idea of how to tackle it. Looking at the video of my crash there, I had unloaded the hell out of the front where I applied the throttle.


12-25-2010, 11:39 AM	#61
Transported Moto2 Contender Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland, Oregon Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: '06 FZ1, '99 R1, '80 Suz GS450S	Interesting. It sounds as if riding is riding, no matter where. The same physics rule. While trackies have to dodge other riders, streeties have to deal with an even wider variety of interference, but at slower speeds. And, it's been said on this forum that only top pros can teach top pros. But, it seems that technique is universal and ones ability to explain it so that others can understand it is more important than being able to go fast. For me, Code is a horrible explainer of technique. I have to read and re-read his stuff and then I still feel it's either over my head or he is too inarticulate to explain simple concepts. Then, I read something by Nick or Lee Parks and it is laughably simple to understand, because those guys know how to write. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-25-2010, 11:58 AM	#62
fastfoodfred Moto2 Champion Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2008 SXV4.5 + 1985 RZ350 + 2010 YZ250F +	Many instructors disagree on how to ride fast, or what is important to teach someone that wants to go fast. Its like having sex. Lots of ways to do it wrong, yet still get yours and her orgasm. Posted via PNW Riders Mobile __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-25-2010, 12:16 PM	#63
dakh Streetfighter Joined: Sep 2007 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: the walk	Yup followed my buddy around ORP and noticed he is coasting on the off-camber to T13. Told him to gas it out of 12 then get on the brakes, he came back slapping his forehead since suddenly he could easily make a line he was struggling to get at without brakes. It's scary to get on the front brake when it's so much off-camber as it is there, but is definitely a faster way around. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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