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Old 06-29-2011, 06:22 PM   #141
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I lane split today. Came up to an intersection where traffic goes from 3 lanes to 2. Lots of dildos get into the right lane to try and race up and avoid the 1/4 mile long line of cars. There was about 7 cars in the right lane; one of which was a verified blue hair in a cutless ciera. Knowing that this would lead to more traffic jammage, I toodled up in the bicycle lane like I was going to turn right, then nailed the gas as the light turned green and got some asshole frijole-mobile trying to run me off the road... obviously a lowered silverado on 24" spinnnerrzzzz wasn't much. I got to work 5 minutes earlier than usual!

I'm writing up a letter to the state reps as we speak. I never understood the plight until today.

I didn't read through the whole thread, but I know here in Oregon, Atkinson has been at all the ORV rallies; he's on our side. Wouldn't hurt to see where he stands on street ridden scoots.

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Old 10-10-2012, 07:57 PM   #142
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so hows this coming along

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Old 11-22-2012, 05:25 AM   #143
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Nothing much apart from the Crickets?

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Old 04-13-2013, 07:56 PM   #144
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Keep up the great work 7am and everyone else we need it...

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Old 07-04-2014, 07:56 AM   #145
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As I'm (fairly) new import to Washington - been riding here for about 4 years now, but 20+ years on a bike in various countries. Personally I'm not a huge fan of lane splitting at speed because it adds a bunch of risk of getting collected by a cager but also because my Harley isn't the most svelte crotch rocket!

I am however really keen to see if we can get slow speed filtering approved as a first step. I've done that pretty much all my life in the UK and other places and here was the first time I got into a conversation with a LEO about it (he was really nice, just a conversation and he was sympathetic)

On my daily commute even filtering at speeds below 25mph would knock time off my commute, get me out of peoples way and stop my bike turning into a red hot molten lump between my thighs! And for the freeway on-ramp filters where the damn lights don't recognize me anyway and there isn't an HOV lane it would make my morning much less frustrating!

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Old 07-04-2014, 08:45 AM   #146
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OK, folks, now that this zombie thread (and topic) has been revived yet again, this is the time for everyone start talking up the issue.

It's election time and local fair/carnival/festival season.

Every State Representative seat and half of the State Senate seats are up for election, and all of the contenders will be at the local fairs and festivals meeting potential voters. Make the initial connection, and show some follow through. Many of these people have zero real knowledge of anything about motorcycling and would actually welcome input from the responsible riding community.

It will be a long slog hard work, but if everyone wants lane sharing or filtering this is where the work begins.

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Old 07-04-2014, 09:20 AM   #147
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OK, folks, now that this zombie thread (and topic) has been revived yet again, this is the time for everyone start talking up the issue.

It's election time and local fair/carnival/festival season.

Every State Representative seat and half of the State Senate seats are up for election, and all of the contenders will be at the local fairs and festivals meeting potential voters. Make the initial connection, and show some follow through. Many of these people have zero real knowledge of anything about motorcycling and would actually welcome input from the responsible riding community.

It will be a long slog hard work, but if everyone wants lane sharing or filtering this is where the work begins.
Wait.....you mean people will have to work to make this happen? It won't just magically get introduced to the senate and voted to pass? Weird.

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Old 07-04-2014, 09:59 AM   #148
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It would seem a really good day to remember that a well organised and thoughtout approach to change can be made with a effort.

The war was one but the battles are ongoing. Pick up your pens and have your voice heard or take down your party banners because you don't understand.

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Old 07-04-2014, 10:20 AM   #149
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You people have to be kidding me. Lane sharing is even more dangerous than not wearing a helmet. All you need to do for your research is get on Youtube and watch the hundreds of videos of lane sharers getting cars doors opened on them or running into cars changing lanes suddenly. Frankly people who do that get what they deserve.

The same rational applies here as to the helmet law. If you want to kill yourself fine, but I'm not going to finance it via insurance premiums.

I wonder . . . do you wear a helmet in States that don't require it?

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Old 07-04-2014, 11:11 AM   #150
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You people have to be kidding me. Lane sharing is even more dangerous than not wearing a helmet. All you need to do for your research is get on Youtube and watch the hundreds of videos of lane sharers getting cars doors opened on them or running into cars changing lanes suddenly. Frankly people who do that get what they deserve.

The same rational applies here as to the helmet law. If you want to kill yourself fine, but I'm not going to finance it via insurance premiums.

I wonder . . . do you wear a helmet in States that don't require it?
Three facts:
in ca were lane splitting is legal----it's unlawful to open your door to block a motorcycle

A bike hit by a car changing lanes means there was NO CAR beside the BIKE!!

Last, motorcycling is not for everyone---get a sidecar

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Old 07-04-2014, 04:18 PM   #151
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sorry for waking a zombie - but July 4th is all about freedom

my 2c is that splitting isn't for everyone, but filtering - where you're only moving at a couple of mph - is a sensible starting point and helps get motorists used to it.

heck, even what used to be only of the least motorcycle friendly States in Aus recently got on board and in the UK it's been long established as legal.

the important thing is that by making it legal we're not making it mandatory ... if a rider doesn't want to do it, doesn't feel it's safe, isn't comfortable with the idea... like every other situation when you're riding it's your call and your decision ... time and the statistics will tell if the riders taking the opportunities remember rule #1 ("it's your fault") - personal choices is why I've never ridden without a helmet even in places where they're not mandatory (sometimes the only person in a group to make the choice) and I'll usually be wearing boots, gloves and a jacket even when trainers and a t-shirt would be more comfortable.

as a pesky foreigner I won't have a vote for a few more years (heck, I'm not even allowed to donate to the AMA's legal action fund yet) but I'm happy to wave a clipboard or write a letter
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Old 07-04-2014, 06:29 PM   #152
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I'll take the bait. Tuesday it was 95 according to my BMW. The fan was squealing, and I was melting in stop/go traffic on SB I-5 from Northgate. If you know the slog from Northgate to Downtown Seattle, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

I rode the lane line between traffic. Yeah, I had a guy try to slap me with his extended mirrors on his pickup. I had another yell, "This isn't California!" From my experience, on days like Tuesday, unless you act stupid, WSP turns a blind eye to splitting congestion on obscenely hot days.

...but I've ridden in California. Stop/go in that kind of heat is killer. California performed a study where they asked riders whether or not they split traffic. Only 47% admitted to splitting traffic. It's like the helmet law. Just because some people don't want to wear their helmets and "squid" doesn't mean that all riders want to ride without a helmet. It's called "Freedom of Choice."

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Old 07-04-2014, 07:43 PM   #153
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at least they should make it legal, during rush hours. OR and WA.
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:09 PM   #154
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You people have to be kidding me. Lane sharing is even more dangerous than not wearing a helmet. All you need to do for your research is get on Youtube and watch the hundreds of videos of lane sharers getting cars doors opened on them or running into cars changing lanes suddenly. Frankly people who do that get what they deserve.

The same rational applies here as to the helmet law. If you want to kill yourself fine, but I'm not going to finance it via insurance premiums.

I wonder . . . do you wear a helmet in States that don't require it?
Can't believed you just used "YouTube" and "research" in the same sentence. I just got back from a trip to Cali, and lane splitting feels far more a safer ride than simply rolling through an intersection with folks waiting to turn left in front of you. I'd rather get side swiped by a car (already done this) while lane splitting than turned into ground chuck while sitting in stop and go traffic by a car slamming into the back.

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Old 07-04-2014, 09:59 PM   #155
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I learned to ride in los angeles and was pretty comfortable splitting lanes. I never did it much here but I've been doing some lane splitting recently on my commute through JBLM traffic. Never for very long - just long enough to find some clear space. I havent had any major issues. It can absolutely be done safely and given the worsening traffic in this region I think it will become more prevalent. Heck the ticket isn't much more than your average speeding ticket.
One thing I haven't done is filter to the front at a red light. I sure miss doing that!

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Old 07-05-2014, 02:22 PM   #156
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California is finally incorporating lane-splitting/filtering into collision reports. We'll finally be able to see whether or not there is sufficient evidence for a case that it's better on freeways. My theory that it's better on freeways (limited access) than on multi-lane arterials (Aurora, Pac Highway, S Tacoma Way, Sandy Blvd) where you run the risk of splitting traffic and then a vehicle turns left in front of you....completely unaware that motorcycles are filtering through.

Now, last year was the first year of data. Of course, one year isn't very telling. Two years really isn't enough, so you would be best off waiting about five years to get a better idea as to what's going on. Remember, lies, damn lies and statistics.

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Old 07-05-2014, 08:51 PM   #157
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I grew up splitting lanes in a state where it's legal and cannot recall ever having a close call. That said, I don't see the PNW being progressive enough to ever see this become a reality in my lifetime. Not only are legislators not receptive to it, IME cagers seem to demonstrate significant hostilities towards cyclists. I would not feel safe splitting lanes on any road I currently commute on.

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