Think you are the only one you can hurt?

Desvio · 07-25-2011, 08:36 AM

Think you are the only one you can hurt when you ride like an ass? Guess again!

Just a reminder: Save it for the track, high desert or that super secret road out in the middle of nowhere. Don't do it in the city limits.

GRESHAM, OR (KPTV) - A man walking home after a trip to the store had his leg severed when a motorcycle rider crashed into him in a Gresham intersection Saturday night.

Gresham police say they first received word of the crash at Southwest 5th Drive and Southeast 182nd Avenue at about 10:30 p.m.

When officers arrived, they found a human leg between two men lying on the road. The police department's Major Crash Team was called in to investigate.

Police say 20-year-old Alex Nash, of Gresham, was riding his motorcycle at a high rate of speed through the intersection when he crashed into 30-year-old John Brown.

The impact cut off Brown's lower left leg, police say. Nash suffered head and neck injuries.

Both men were taken to the hospital.

Gresham police are now asking for the public's help in the case. They're asking anyone who may have witnessed a red and green Honda motorcycle traveling at a high rate of speed in the area of the crash to call them.

Police are also looking for information on a red sports car that may have been in the same area. It's not known if the two vehicles were racing.

Source: http://www.kptv.com/story/15141504/m...-gresham-crash

jonathandowers · 07-25-2011, 08:47 AM

Ouch. There goes two lives ruined.

Sentor · 07-25-2011, 08:49 AM

Damnit.... poor Guy.... to lose your leg when you're just walking across a street heading home. What an asshole kid.

1shinysideup · 07-25-2011, 08:51 AM

take the riders leg.

BusaDave · 07-25-2011, 08:52 AM

What an asshat. Because he wanted to be cool and ride really fast in town, he has ruined another persons life.

mustang1 · 07-25-2011, 08:58 AM

Another dumb ass

Bluuu · 07-25-2011, 09:05 AM

People that race around town and place others in danger through nothing more than pure stupidity are not my brothers, or my bretheren, or fellow riders. They are assholes that shouldn't be allowed to even look at a bike much less ride one.

Melbs5150 · 07-25-2011, 09:14 AM

Wow, this is so sad.

fyrejunkee · 07-25-2011, 09:39 AM

This irritates me to no end. When you are irresponsible like that rider was, you aren't the only one you are putting in jeopardy. The rider needs to lose his license for a long time, plus do some jail time. Not to mention the lawsuit he needs to lose. Oh, wait, I know. He should help take care of and run errands for the rest of the life of the man whom he crippled.

nsrg500 · 07-25-2011, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by fyrejunkee

this irritates me to no end. When you are irresponsible like that rider was, you aren't the only one you are putting in jeopardy. The rider needs to lose his license for a long time, plus do some jail time. Not to mention the lawsuit he needs to lose. Oh, wait, i know. He should help take care of and run errands for the rest of the life of the man whom he crippled.

West Seattle Cager · 07-25-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by fyrejunkee

This irritates me to no end. When you are irresponsible like that rider was, you aren't the only one you are putting in jeopardy. The rider needs to lose his license for a long time, plus do some jail time. Not to mention the lawsuit he needs to lose. Oh, wait, I know. He should help take care of and run errands for the rest of the life of the man whom he crippled.

Thank You. After my father was killed by a drunk driver on Christmas Day 2007 in his S-10; the the drunk driver got three months probation and a suspended license for a year.

The laws for "excessive stupidity" are very light. Unless we get more strict on laws for hurting innocent people with "excessive stupidity" accidents like this will only happen more often while destroying more lives and costing society more money in Re habituation cost.

Desvio · 07-25-2011, 12:35 PM

Our society and laws are getting very sad. If I went out and intentionally cut someones leg off, I would expect to get 20 to 40 years minimum. But if I'm a stupid fuck and go do something unlawful like this, and it results in someone losing their leg, I'm pretty much going to walk.

This I like, should be his life sentence!

"He should help take care of financially, and run errands for the rest of the life of the man whom he crippled."

Debi · 07-25-2011, 01:54 PM

So sad to hear about the pedestrian

But people ride and drive how they want. I can't bash the rider except for major laps in judgement

All this bashing of riders for speeding and what not is kinda getting old. I will ride how I ride as should everyone else

jnicola · 07-25-2011, 02:21 PM

I hope that both who are injured recover... however...

Gresham police are now asking for the public's help in the case. They're asking anyone who may have witnessed a red and green Honda motorcycle traveling at a high rate of speed in the area of the crash to call them.

They don't have any witnesses, and it sounds like they have little evidence as to the nature of the situation. Sounds to me like they're fishing for a way to blame the rider, and can't actually prove it. They're doing so with a very leading statement.

Debi · 07-25-2011, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by jnicola

I hope that both who are injured recover... however...

They don't have any witnesses, and it sounds like they have little evidence as to the nature of the situation. Sounds to me like they're fishing for a way to blame the rider, and can't actually prove it. They're doing so with a very leading statement.

I so agree

joshholland90 · 07-25-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Debi

So sad to hear about the pedestrian

But people ride and drive how they want. I can't bash the rider except for major laps in judgement

All this bashing of riders for speeding and what not is kinda getting old. I will ride how I ride as should everyone else

Except that his lack of judgment RUINED the rest of someones life physically, mentally and financially, who was only 30 years old. but its okay, he was just "riding how he rides" And injured himself on top of it.

it almost sounds like you're taking the riders side here. wtf is wrong with you?

Desvio · 07-25-2011, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by jnicola

They don't have any witnesses, and it sounds like they have little evidence as to the nature of the situation. Sounds to me like they're fishing for a way to blame the rider, and can't actually prove it. They're doing so with a very leading statement.

I disagree. Douche on bike speeds, douche on bike hits a pedestrian in a crosswalk hard enough to sever his leg completely. How in the hell do you consider that fishing? Is there a part of the mechanics of such an injury you don't understand? The difference between witnesses that saw him speeding, and no witnesses is whether they will be able to prosecute him on criminal charges.

rowlex · 07-25-2011, 03:07 PM

there is NO crosswalk at this intersection(IF you can even call it that. it looks like a 50mph road, with a T-style stop-sign control at the T).

regardless.... when i cross a street i make the fuck sure I will not be run over.

idiots who do not pay attention walking on the roadway are asking to get runover.

Debi · 07-25-2011, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by joshholland90

Except that his lack of judgment RUINED the rest of someones life physically, mentally and financially, who was only 30 years old. but its okay, he was just "riding how he rides" And injured himself on top of it.

it almost sounds like you're taking the riders side here. wtf is wrong with you?

Not saying I am taking the riders side. I am saying all the bashing on people for speeding on a bike or doing things on their bikes.

Yes it is very sad about the guy walking but we don't know the whole story like, was the light red for the rider or pedestrian?

All it takes is 45 mph to cut off a limb from a bike

Oh and whats wrong with me is Degasit

joshholland90 · 07-25-2011, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by rowlex

there is NO crosswalk at this intersection(IF you can even call it that. it looks like a 50mph road, with a T-style stop-sign control at the T).

regardless.... when i cross a street i make the fuck sure I will not be run over.

idiots who do not pay attention walking on the roadway are asking to get runover.

Agreed. I hate people who run into the middle of a 5 lane highway and stand in the left turn lane, ect.
but we don't know all the details here at all. Maybe the ped WAS at fault. After looking at the intersection I see that there is not light, or stop sign for the biker. And no crosswalk. Posted speed limit is 40 mph.

Its still really tragic that the guy will be crippled for the rest of his life :(

heres the link to the intersection where the accident happened.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...ed=0CBUQ8gEwAA

edit: They do state that "he was riding at a high rate of speed" which is after the fact so how they can really determine that other than tire marks or something, idk.
And they do also refer to it as an intersection. Which it hardly is. Its a T intersection, just 1 stop sign for the road joining a 40 mph highway.


07-25-2011, 08:47 AM	#2
jonathandowers Pit Crew Joined: Sep 2010 From: Seattle I Ride: an '07 Kenworth W900L	Ouch. There goes two lives ruined. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 08:49 AM	#3
Sentor Novice Racer Joined: Feb 2006 From: Beaverton, OR I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!	Damnit.... poor Guy.... to lose your leg when you're just walking across a street heading home. What an asshole kid. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 08:51 AM	#4
1shinysideup Streetfighter Joined: Feb 2007 From: Seattle I Ride: 06 600RR	take the riders leg. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 08:52 AM	#5
BusaDave Peg Dragger Joined: Jul 2010 From: Lacey, Wa Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: Busa, KTM	What an asshat. Because he wanted to be cool and ride really fast in town, he has ruined another persons life. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 08:58 AM	#6
mustang1 Railer Joined: Jun 2008 From: olympia washington I Ride: hayabusa	Another dumb ass __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 09:05 AM	#7
Bluuu Señor verde Joined: Mar 2011 From: Kirkland I Ride: behind the girls.	People that race around town and place others in danger through nothing more than pure stupidity are not my brothers, or my bretheren, or fellow riders. They are assholes that shouldn't be allowed to even look at a bike much less ride one. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 09:14 AM	#8
Melbs5150 Novice Racer Joined: Dec 2008 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 05 Husky 450 SMR, 08 GSXR 600, 02 GSXR 750, 07 ZX6R	Wow, this is so sad. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 09:39 AM	#9
fyrejunkee Endorsed Joined: May 2009 From: Woodland, WA I Ride: OP's for now.	This irritates me to no end. When you are irresponsible like that rider was, you aren't the only one you are putting in jeopardy. The rider needs to lose his license for a long time, plus do some jail time. Not to mention the lawsuit he needs to lose. Oh, wait, I know. He should help take care of and run errands for the rest of the life of the man whom he crippled. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2011, 01:54 PM	#13
Debi Novice Racer Joined: Apr 2009 From: Renton, WA I Ride: 05 KTM450SMR, 04 YZF250 and one bad ass Truck hehe	So sad to hear about the pedestrian But people ride and drive how they want. I can't bash the rider except for major laps in judgement All this bashing of riders for speeding and what not is kinda getting old. I will ride how I ride as should everyone else __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by Debi; 07-25-2011 at 01:56 PM..


07-25-2011, 03:07 PM	#18
rowlex Novice Racer Joined: Apr 2006 From: seattle I Ride: 1krr	there is NO crosswalk at this intersection(IF you can even call it that. it looks like a 50mph road, with a T-style stop-sign control at the T). regardless.... when i cross a street i make the fuck sure I will not be run over. idiots who do not pay attention walking on the roadway are asking to get runover. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by rowlex; 07-25-2011 at 03:14 PM..

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