Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-21-2012, 05:16 AM   #1
Training Wheels
OP
 
Joined: Sep 2011
From: Moving to Los Angeles, CA

I Ride: Guess? Looking forward to the 1199 Panigale
Ducati 1199 - Panigale Track Test
They finally did a test video on this bike . . . and the initial impressions were very good. I must say that I am surprised.

Go here for the The Track Test Ride & Initial Thoughts

I was skeptical because of all of the problems in MotoGP with the frameless prototype. I wonder how low will the cost of the used 1198s drop now?

. . . anybody on the wait list for this bike?

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 

Old 02-21-2012, 07:06 AM   #2
Peg Dragger
Veloc's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2011
From: Tanasbourne, OR

I Ride: 2008 R6, 2007 S2R 1000
Hmm. Yup, gonna get one in a few years.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 07:59 AM   #3
Streetfighter
1shinysideup's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
From: Seattle

I Ride: 06 600RR
wait list, yep! Once I hit that lotto my wait is over!

I drooled all over this bike at the Bike show this year!

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 09:39 AM   #4
Railer
Red Label Moto's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
From: Seattle

I Ride: All kinds
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by predator1198s View Post
They finally did a test video on this bike . . . and the initial impressions were very good. I must say that I am surprised.

Go here for the The Track Test Ride & Initial Thoughts

I was skeptical because of all of the problems in MotoGP with the frameless prototype. I wonder how low will the cost of the used 1198s drop now?

. . . anybody on the wait list for this bike?
No offense op, but why the surprise? "Problems" with a fresh design in MotoGP just mean it is milliseconds slower than they thought it would be right out of the gate. On the street, it is their 1st truly all new machine since the mid 90's. That is a long ass time ago. IMO, it is reasonable to expect that an 1199 eats up a defenseless 1198 in much the same way a 916 would devour an 851/888.

Any Ducati Superbike depreciates like a rock in a vacuum the moment the papers are signed and the bike is making the rounds at the coffee shop. Anyone who bought their 1098/1198 new and is testing the 2nd hand market is already feeling the pain. The new model does not help that situation any but the majority of the damage would have already been done even without the new kid on the block.

Porsche Barry has 1 coming and I'm sure others have their deposit down.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 10:12 AM   #5
Permit
redfactor's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2011
From: Eugene, Or

I Ride: often
Does anyone else think the front end looks like a graboid from the movie Tremors?

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 10:31 AM   #6
Shredder
cletus's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
From: sammamish, wa

I Ride: 2006 Suzuki GSXR 600; 2007 Yamaha FZ1 (the Mrs.'s bike)
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto View Post
Any Ducati Superbike depreciates like a rock in a vacuum the moment the papers are signed and the bike is making the rounds at the coffee shop. Anyone who bought their 1098/1198 new and is testing the 2nd hand market is already feeling the pain. The new model does not help that situation any but the majority of the damage would have already been done even without the new kid on the block.
Who in their right mind would buy a bike as an investment?

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 10:58 AM   #7
Chicken Strips
DullJack's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
From: the Hill Country

I Ride: for escapism
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto View Post
Any Ducati Superbike depreciates like a rock in a vacuum the moment the papers are signed and the bike is making the rounds at the coffee shop. Anyone who bought their 1098/1198 new and is testing the 2nd hand market is already feeling the pain. The new model does not help that situation any but the majority of the damage would have already been done even without the new kid on the block.

Porsche Barry has 1 coming and I'm sure others have their deposit down.
That's an interesting statement...I bought my '07 1098 w/ 500 miles on it for 12.5K, then resold it w/ 15K miles for 9.5K...granted I took good care of it, but 10K miles and 3 years and it only lost 3K in value.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 11:01 AM   #8
Novice Racer
Sentor's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
From: Beaverton, OR

I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!
What were the mods before you got it, and after you sold it?

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 11:06 AM   #9
Chicken Strips
DullJack's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
From: the Hill Country

I Ride: for escapism
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentor View Post
What were the mods before you got it, and after you sold it?
It came w/ a Graves exhaust. I added an open clutch cover, sliders, and Sargent's Seat...beyond that, it was a stock base 1098. Oh, and I dumped it once, so the lower fairing had some rashing on it.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 11:09 AM   #10
Streetfighter
Wyckedan's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
From: Seattle, Wa

I Ride: An 06 R6 with OPRT
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by DullJack View Post
That's an interesting statement...I bought my '07 1098 w/ 500 miles on it for 12.5K, then resold it w/ 15K miles for 9.5K...granted I took good care of it, but 10K miles and 3 years and it only lost 3K in value.
He's talking about guys who bought them new for $20,000+ and put 500-2,000 miles on them and took a $12,000+ hit when they sold it. A friend of mine had an 08 1098s, bought brand new, put over $10k into it, and only put 2200 miles on it. He took a $20,000 hit on that bike when he sold it. That's why it's hard to buy a brand new Ducati. Wait a year, and buy one for a more realistic price ("used" with basically no miles)

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 11:12 AM   #11
Buz
Novice Racer
Buz's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2005
From: Bremerton,WA

I Ride: 08 Zed x 10R
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyckedan View Post
He's talking about guys who bought them new for $20,000+ and put 500-2,000 miles on them and took a $12,000+ hit when they sold it. A friend of mine had an 08 1098s, bought brand new, put over $10k into it, and only put 2200 miles on it. He took a $20,000 hit on that bike when he sold it. That's why it's hard to buy a brand new Ducati. Wait a year, and buy one for a more realistic price ("used" with basically no miles)
Or hell just ride it and rack up the miles.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 11:18 AM   #12
Streetfighter
Wyckedan's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
From: Seattle, Wa

I Ride: An 06 R6 with OPRT
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Buz View Post
Or hell just ride it and rack up the miles.
Well yeah, of course :-) but that doesn't happen that often. Its not rare to find low mile Ducati's for sale. A new Ducati is a trophy to many of the buyers, to us that actually ride, a new Ducati would be ridden hard and enjoyed. With maintenance costs and intervals getting WAY more reasonable, maybe they'll start seeing some miles. Hell, at 2,000 miles its barely broken in.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 11:53 AM   #13
Railer
Red Label Moto's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
From: Seattle

I Ride: All kinds
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by DullJack View Post
That's an interesting statement...I bought my '07 1098 w/ 500 miles on it for 12.5K, then resold it w/ 15K miles for 9.5K...granted I took good care of it, but 10K miles and 3 years and it only lost 3K in value.
You played it smart and bought your piece of Italian finery after the rock had dropped most of the way. Its the guy that buys it new and then puts it on the market in a year or 2 maybe 3. Pain. But it hurts so good

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 02:54 PM   #14
Chicken Strips
DullJack's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
From: the Hill Country

I Ride: for escapism
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto View Post
You played it smart and bought your piece of Italian finery after the rock had dropped most of the way. Its the guy that buys it new and then puts it on the market in a year or 2 maybe 3. Pain. But it hurts so good
Well, I can't possibly imagine buying a motorcycle and not riding it. Even if it was a Desmo, I'd have to take it for a spin or 10. I'm continually amazed by the guys who bought a 1098R, and it hasn't even cracked 1000 miles yet. They drive it to service and bike nights and that is it....makes me a sad panda.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 03:06 PM   #15
Novice Racer
Sentor's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
From: Beaverton, OR

I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!
Yeah, you did good! I see 08 and 09's here that are about 8-10k, with 2-5k miles, mods, and not a scratch.

Even the Ducati dealer here is selling this one for 10.9.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcd/2855122164.html

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 03:18 PM   #16
Peg Dragger
Norainy's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
From: Nehalem, Or

I Ride: cause I obey the voices in my head
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by predator1198s View Post
I wonder how low will the cost of the used 1198s drop now?
A bad scenario for me for sure. I paid premium price for a beautifull 1198s. Now I want to sell it. I bought if for it's beauty, sound and performance. It has lived up to my expectations, except for the fuel range. It's like riding an electric bike, I need to look for gas at 80 miles and better find it before a hundred.

About the only thing I did not check when buying was the range.

It's a 2009 model that I bought in 2010 and only has 6000 miles on it now. The reason for so few miles is I have the bennefit of having another bike with a much bigger tank that I ride much more often.

I want to sell it and get the multistrada. The multistrada will fill all wants except the dry clutch and overall street performance. It does have a 5.5 gallon tank and can get close to 200 miles per tank.

The 1198s in my opinion is meant for the track only, and ducati pretty much said that, I just didn't listen.

If it turns out I will take too much of a hit, I may just keep it to look at.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 03:28 PM   #17
Chicken Strips
DullJack's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
From: the Hill Country

I Ride: for escapism
Ducatis do seem to hold their value better than most bikes. Just as an example, I bought a '08 R6 brand-spanking new (dumb mistake #1), sold it 2 years later w/ 6K miles and no drops for...4K. About a 75% decrease in value. Anyways....since we've completely jacked the OPs thread;

How about that there Panigale? I bet it's a blast to ride, but for some reason in comparison to the 1098/848/1198, the fairings just don't look complete to me. It doesn't have that same sex appeal....maybe just because I'm used to the last generation of superbikes.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 03:40 PM   #18
Novice Racer
Sentor's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
From: Beaverton, OR

I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!
I will trade you a beautiful LOADED r1, that'll get 130mi per tank, more if you weigh less than me, for that 1198.

Dull - 08 r6's here are going for 6-6500 still... in the middle of winter.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 04:31 PM   #19
Peg Dragger
Norainy's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
From: Nehalem, Or

I Ride: cause I obey the voices in my head
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentor View Post
I will trade you a beautiful LOADED r1, that'll get 130mi per tank, more if you weigh less than me, for that 1198.
Get me a 2011 or newer base model white multisrada and we can talk. The duc is dark with bst wheels and buko mods. Does have some minor scrapes on the left side that I brush painted. Very hard to see if you don't know, but I know

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Old 02-21-2012, 04:42 PM   #20
Peg Dragger
Veloc's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2011
From: Tanasbourne, OR

I Ride: 2008 R6, 2007 S2R 1000
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto View Post
No offense op, but why the surprise? "Problems" with a fresh design in MotoGP just mean it is milliseconds slower than they thought it would be right out of the gate.
It was bad enough they scrapped it entirely.

OTOH, none of us are in MotoGP, and practically none of us are going to be pushing the bike to its very limits. The shortcomings of the "frameless" design simply won't be anything worth thinking about.

As a street bike, this thing is beautiful, (hopefully) reliable, and a real monster. Can't ask for much more than that.

__________________
Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter
 
Reply

  PNW Riders > PNW Riders > Motorcycle Talk


Thread Tools
Display Modes



/pnwriders @pnwriders PNW Riders RSS Feed