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Old 05-16-2012, 12:47 PM   #1
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Think you have a nice helmet?


HJC Carbon AC-12

~60mph.

I face planted 5 years ago with my Shoei X-SPII, and not a scratch on my face.

I don't think I'll be buying HJC. The guy's visor didn't break either. I'm trying to get a pic of the helmet, but he's a bit immobilized.

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Old 05-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #2
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got to love shoei

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Old 05-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #3
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Yikes.

I bought an AGV GP-Tech to replace my stolen Shoei. Nothing but good things to say about either.

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Old 05-16-2012, 12:56 PM   #4
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I think it has more to do with Carbon Fiber than it does the brand dood. Carbon fiber splinters when it breaks and does nasty nasty things.

Shit looks painful. Hope they gave him some good drugs.

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:08 PM   #5
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I'd like to see pics of the lid and details on the crash..

I have 2 AC-12 helmets but they are the standard Fiberglass/Spectra composite shell..

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:35 PM   #6
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OUCH!!! more info on what happened?

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:43 PM   #7
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I think it has more to do with Carbon Fiber than it does the brand dood. Carbon fiber splinters when it breaks and does nasty nasty things.

Shit looks painful. Hope they gave him some good drugs.
This.
That's freaky.
MFG should get a copy of that photo as well.

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:46 PM   #8
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http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testhelme...discontinued=1

the vast majority of HJC helmets tested very poorly in comparison. My next helmet will only be a 5star rated helmet from SHARP (luckily, the shoei i was planning on is 5star!)

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:50 PM   #9
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I'd like to see pics of the lid and details on the crash..

I have 2 AC-12 helmets but they are the standard Fiberglass/Spectra composite shell..
Carbon and Fiberglass are both ceramics and are therefore brittle. Spectra is a thermoplastic and is therefore ductile. Spectra is some good stuff, but it's just UHMW Polyethylene in fiber form.

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:59 PM   #10
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http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testhelme...discontinued=1

the vast majority of HJC helmets tested very poorly in comparison. My next helmet will only be a 5star rated helmet from SHARP (luckily, the shoei i was planning on is 5star!)

The AC-12 is sold as the HQ1 in Europe.
HJC's only 5 star sharp rated helmet
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/hjc-hq1

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:01 PM   #11
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“ Quote:
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The AC-12 is sold as the HQ1 in Europe.
HJC's only 5 star sharp rated helmet
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/hjc-hq1
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by Avboden View Post
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testhelme...discontinued=1

the vast majority of HJC helmets tested very poorly in comparison. My next helmet will only be a 5star rated helmet from SHARP (luckily, the shoei i was planning on is 5star!)

ZING! Still sure you want a Sharp rated helmet?

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:12 PM   #12
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Was it the helmet that failed? Or was it something else that got past the helmet/face shield?
Aren't most helmets tested at something like 30mph?

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:13 PM   #13
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I'll try and figure out what happened exactly, and get some info on the helmet. I don't think he remembers anything about the actual accident, other than he hit the brakes too hard and probably lost the front.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:20 PM   #14
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I've used a lot of Carbon fiber, never seemed like a good helmet material.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:26 PM   #15
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It's probably a stretch to evaluate one helmet over another just based on only one photo. even if both dismounts were at equal speeds, the angle of impact is almost certainly different. Did either of you absorb any force with an arm or a leg before hitting the ground? Did a high-side launch one of you into the air so you actually fell from a greater height? etc.

Not defending HJC or knocking Shoei, just saying there's more to consider here.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:37 PM   #16
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The AC-12 is sold as the HQ1 in Europe.
HJC's only 5 star sharp rated helmet
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/hjc-hq1
yeah but that's not the carbon model

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:47 PM   #17
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It's probably a stretch to evaluate one helmet over another just based on only one photo. even if both dismounts were at equal speeds, the angle of impact is almost certainly different. Did either of you absorb any force with an arm or a leg before hitting the ground? Did a high-side launch one of you into the air so you actually fell from a greater height? etc.

Not defending HJC or knocking Shoei, just saying there's more to consider here.
Agree. Need to know the details, just as a manufacturer or helmet tester would want to know.

I am kinda curious if he just impacted AC pavement or any other objects as well. Example might be a guard rail, as they suck for motorcyclist big time.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:55 PM   #18
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Maybe the helmet never was a good fit in the first place.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:58 PM   #19
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Maybe the helmet never was a good fit in the first place.
Even if it didn't fit correctly, it should not have gashed his face like that

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Old 05-16-2012, 03:28 PM   #20
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yeah but that's not the carbon model

HJC HQ-1 Lordship Black
http://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/...9&Currency=USD

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HJC HQ1 Lordship
Ultra-light light weight Carbon Shell structure
Looks like the one on the Sharp site..

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