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Old 05-23-2012, 10:56 PM   #1
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Trailer Questions
1) Do trailers in WA need license plates? I guess motorcycle trailers qualify as Utility Trailers, correct?

2) This seems like a good way to flatspot your rear tire. Am I wrong? http://tow-ster.com/home

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Old 05-23-2012, 10:59 PM   #2
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1) Yes




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Old 05-24-2012, 06:05 AM   #3
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1) Do trailers in WA need license plates? I guess motorcycle trailers qualify as Utility Trailers, correct?

2) This seems like a good way to flatspot your rear tire. Am I wrong? http://tow-ster.com/home
1) Yes
2) I would only use that if my bike was not able to make it home. Tire wear FTL.

It seems like a cool idea, but I have a nice ramp and a large truck for hauling my scooters.

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Old 05-24-2012, 06:12 AM   #4
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As an added bonus if your tie downs fail your bike will tip over and rather then sliding to a stop be towed behind your vehicles tell the straps break.

With a truck your only looking at some tip over damage.

No I would not use this product. Tire use, risk of damage. No,no,no

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Old 05-24-2012, 06:13 AM   #5
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My neighbor was just telling me yesterday about watching a Gsxr 750 yardsale on the freeway when one of those failed. Never would I put my bike on one.

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Old 05-24-2012, 06:19 AM   #6
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I love my trucks, and trailer.....

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Old 05-24-2012, 07:09 AM   #7
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I love my trucks, and trailer.....



Besides bike falling and or dragging, I don't think your tranny will like to be spun without engine running. BAD IDEA!

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Old 05-24-2012, 07:52 AM   #8
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#2 looks sketch... Yikes!

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:02 AM   #9
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Can you imagine how badly the rear wheel of the bike would be hopping, and skipping around every time you hit a bump. No thanks.

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:06 AM   #10
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Yes, trailers require a plate, and registration....


If you're only towing one bike, there are some small solutions, that could be towed behind nearly any four wheeled vehicle....

Not sure what you're a towing with....

You'll need room, either on the trailer, or in the vehicle, for gear, gas, tools, food, water, etc...

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:08 AM   #11
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If you're looking at the tow option, i'm guessing you have a trailer hitch, but not a truck bed to haul it in? If you have a hitch, what about something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Car.../dp/B0049IACSO

I've never personally used one, but the idea looks sound. Some are designed for dirtbikes only, some are quite a bit sturdier. This one is good for 600 lbs..

edit: If you're just looking to haul occasionally, why not look into the Uhaul motorcycle trailers? If you have a reciever hitch, would seem pretty cheap just to rent as needed rather than buying. ($15 a day, if i'm reading it correctly)

http://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/Eq....aspx?model=MT

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:14 AM   #12
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If you're looking at the tow option, i'm guessing you have a trailer hitch, but not a truck bed to haul it in? If you have a hitch, what about something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Car.../dp/B0049IACSO

I've never personally used one, but the idea looks sound. Some are designed for dirtbikes only, some are quite a bit sturdier. This one is good for 600 lbs..
Late braker from b'ham came down for a ride a few weeks ago and had his bike on one of those and left his rig at my place while we rode.

He had it on the back of an suv with one of those hitches that's all tied into the frame. It looked pretty sweet. Was super easy to load and unload. The bike was strapped down solid and not going anywhere.

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #13
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Used utility trailers are pretty cheap and most of them time replacing the bearings or whatnot is an easy enough task.

One of those trailer hitch front wheel carriers looks like an awesome way to trash your bike.

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:53 AM   #14
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The hitch carrier from versahaul is a great way to transport your bike if you have a class IV hitch or better. Just need to install airbags in the rear of your SUV. If your vehicle won't support a class IV hitch look into something like "trailer in a bag" or the stinger. Both single rail trailers that fold up out of the way when not in use.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
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It would be a good solution for quick trips to the mechanic. I wouldn't use it for more than a few miles, and never take it on the freeway.

I've thought about getting one since I've gotten rid of the pickup. Second one down looks a bit sturdier.

http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/MFWT.html

This thing looks good too. At least they know enough to include a chick in their ads.

http://www.undertakermts.com/

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Old 05-24-2012, 10:07 AM   #16
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See anything wrong with their FAQ's?


I'll highlight in red to help....


“ Quote:
FAQ:
1. Do I need to remove my chain?

We have never had a problem with either chain or belt
drive. If you have a drive shaft while we have never
had anyone report a problem but please check with the
dealer


2. Will it hurt my engine?

If the transmission is in neutral nothing turns but the
tire and chain/belt. There is no torque on the trans so
there is no heat generated.



The response to #2 worries me....


3. Will my bike fit?

The unit will tow most bikes. If you have a very
small front wheel (scooter) it will not work.

3a. Will my TRIKE Fit?

The Trike unit will tow most trikes. If you have a very
small front wheel (scooter) it will not work.

4. What if I don't have a 2" receiver?

At this time we do not offer a unit for a 1.25"
receiver. The main problem is the weight restriction
on a class 1 or 2 receiver. A big bike weighs up to 900
pounds.

5. Can I back up?

Yes but the unit acts like a very small trailer
and can jackknife very quickly.

6. Can I tow my Super Bike?

Yes

7. Will towing my bike add miles to my bike?

On most bikes the speedometer runs off he front wheel so
the answer is no. But some bikes now run the
speedometer from the transmission so miles may be added



Answer #2 tells me they know nothing about how sport bikes work.....

Answer #7 proves it.....


This is a bad device....

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Old 05-24-2012, 11:19 AM   #17
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Can someone explain to me what damage this would cause to a normal chain driven motorcycle if left in neutral?

I understand how/why you can't tow an automatic car with it's wheels on the ground (unless you unhook/disable the axle/halfshafts). I also know that it is okay to tow a manual transmission car with it's drive wheels on the ground as long as you are in neutral.

How is a chain/belt driven motorcycle any different?

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Old 05-24-2012, 11:53 AM   #18
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Can someone explain to me what damage this would cause to a normal chain driven motorcycle if left in neutral?

I understand how/why you can't tow an automatic car with it's wheels on the ground (unless you unhook/disable the axle/halfshafts). I also know that it is okay to tow a manual transmission car with it's drive wheels on the ground as long as you are in neutral.

How is a chain/belt driven motorcycle any different?
If I understand it correctly, on a sport bike, where the transmission is in the engine case, when the rear wheel spins...so does the main shaft.

While that won't necessarily cause damage, if you're not on the bike, towing at speed, how would you know if something was going wrong?
I don't know, but a hard bump could cause a dog to bounce in the transmission....and with the wheel turning at speed, not good.

Try throwing your bike into first or second from neutral at 55 mph....

But yeah, it isn't a guarantee to cause damage... I'd rather trailer my bike, or use a hitch carrier that gets both wheels of the ground....

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Old 05-24-2012, 12:37 PM   #19
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I've got tow straps you can borrow for free if you'd like drag your bike behind your rig.

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Old 05-24-2012, 12:58 PM   #20
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I've got tow straps you can borrow for free if you'd like drag your bike behind your rig.
Will you ship the straps?


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