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Old 08-03-2012, 01:02 AM   #41
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If your only skill or solution to going fast is WOT, most people who learned to ride (or still do) on a smaller bike are probably better riders than you are. People who don't have brute force available get very good at being fast everywhere.

ETA: The white looks very nice. I feel sorry for anyone who could not have fun on this.
...i didn't say it was my skill or solution to going fast. the quote i was referring to was about FUN. I was referring to exhilaration and fun.

BTW I sit and wait for guys and on liter bikes all day when we ride together... I get my kicks from hanging off the bike hitting apexes getting a knee out AFTER I do that I enjoy launching out of those turns with authority. So yes there are better riders than me but I do not personally know any of them. and no i am not a squid who lets my engine make up for my lack of skill. I study film and me and my bike work as a team. I stand by my statement that a 600 is way more fun than a 250, and no you can't keep up with me on one.

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Old 08-03-2012, 09:24 AM   #42
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Didn't the 250 go EFI last big update a few years back?
Most of the rest of the world has EFI on their Ninjettes, but not us. Personally this is a huge factor of whether I would buy a 2013, if it's not EFI it would be off the list.

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I study film and me and my bike work as a team.
So your knowledge on cinema tells you you're a great rider? I guess you got that from watching Casablanca. Or maybe you mean you study films of yourself riding. In which case I can just imagine your reviews: "Man I'm AWESOME!" Right?

Either way, get over yourself.

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Old 08-03-2012, 09:52 AM   #43
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New 250R looks pretty darn good to me. I had an '08 and it was fun to whip around. Not much power, but plenty for most small roads, and super fun on the twisty roads. But the thing was an absolute bitch to ride on cold mornings, until everything warmed up and the carbs actually worked right. Nothing like the bike choking out and dying in a 15mph uphill left-hand turn after "warming up" for three minutes.

Had it been FI, I may not have sold it after three years. (Basically I bought it barely used with 500 miles on it, put about 9000 miles on it, then sold it for $300 less three years later.) If the new ones are fuel-injected, they'll be all you could want for a starter bike, or a commuter.

That R125 is HOTT. But if the 250 topped out at 107mph (ask me how I know)...
Shoulda played with the mixture screws on the pilot, got rid of the lean condition, made it easy to start in any weather and kept the engine cooler in stop and go traffic.

Only 107? I hit 113 indicated with a tank bag and a fairly large non aerodynamic toolbox strapped to the back.... classic gen though.

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The Kawasaki Japan website claims the 2013 Ninja 250R has an all-new DOHC Parallel Twin with new pistons, cylinders and crank cases. The new design aims to give the Ninja 250R more torque in the low to mid ranges.
This low to mid range part worries me. The 08-12 were supposed to do the same and lost something like 1-2hp up top? If the trend continues will this 2013 be 2-4hp down on the classic just like Honda's CBR250R?
The 2013 sure does look real nice though.

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:05 AM   #44
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BTW I sit and wait for guys and on liter bikes all day when we ride together... I get my kicks from hanging off the bike hitting apexes getting a knee out AFTER I do that I enjoy launching out of those turns with authority. So yes there are better riders than me but I do not personally know any of them. and no i am not a squid who lets my engine make up for my lack of skill. I study film and me and my bike work as a team. I stand by my statement that a 600 is way more fun than a 250, and no you can't keep up with me on one.
Ha ha ha ha ha...are you for real?

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:19 AM   #45
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Ha ha ha ha ha...are you for real?
Cut him some slack...SPS is a terrible disease.

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:55 AM   #46
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So your knowledge on cinema tells you you're a great rider? I guess you got that from watching Casablanca. Or maybe you mean you study films of yourself riding. In which case I can just imagine your reviews: "Man I'm AWESOME!" Right?

Either way, get over yourself.

hahahaha rep

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Old 08-03-2012, 11:10 AM   #47
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Shoulda played with the mixture screws on the pilot, got rid of the lean condition, made it easy to start in any weather and kept the engine cooler in stop and go traffic.

Only 107? I hit 113 indicated with a tank bag and a fairly large non aerodynamic toolbox strapped to the back.... classic gen though.



This low to mid range part worries me. The 08-12 were supposed to do the same and lost something like 1-2hp up top? If the trend continues will this 2013 be 2-4hp down on the classic just like Honda's CBR250R?
The 2013 sure does look real nice though.
Even with the power deference, I've been told that the 08+ models lap quicker around the track, and are better all around on the street.

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Old 08-03-2012, 11:36 AM   #48
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Quick someone buy one, drop it, get scared and sell it. I need a track bike.

I hope that "pass" button is the turn signal. I like everything but the mid fairing, ugly as sin to me.

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Old 08-03-2012, 01:10 PM   #49
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Even with the power deference, I've been told that the 08+ models lap quicker around the track, and are better all around on the street.
New ones:
Pros:
Tires are larger, sticker,and have better suspension. Easily modded to get more power than the old gen. Looks way better.
Cons: At least $1000 more than the old one. Shims.

Old:
Pros: CHEAP, no less than 43 mpgs no matter how hard i rode it. Average~62 mpg. $1000-$1500. Ridiculously easy to work on. CHEAP. screw/locknut valves. Centerstand. Oh did i say CHEAP?
Cons: Not as good. 16" bias tires, crappy stock suspension. Outdated styling.

It's only been a week since I've sold my ninja and got my FZ1 but i miss it. Nothing like whacking throttle wide open in first....to go 35 mph.

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Old 08-04-2012, 01:10 PM   #50
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so lets recap: I say something about bikes and how displacement relates to fun factor in my opinion. Then somoene decides that they need to say that I am a shitty rider. Then I explain that I am not the type of person who only likes larger displacement motorcycles to make up for lack of skill and that I do in fact enjoy learning technique. This is followed by more shit talking....wtf is everyone's problem. Couldn't an intelligent conversation be had about the topic without people talking shit about someone's skills. Especially when there's no way for any of you to know what your talking about in that regard.

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Old 08-04-2012, 03:22 PM   #51
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Couldn't an intelligent conversation be had about the topic without people talking shit about someone's skills.
Hmmm....

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Especially when there's no way for any of you to know what your talking about in that regard.
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BTW I sit and wait for guys and on liter bikes all day when we ride together...
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So yes there are better riders than me but I do not personally know any of them.
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and no you can't keep up with me on one.
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I study film and me and my bike work as a team.
(Quoted again cause it's the most laugharific.)

Who was it that was talking shit about others skills again?

Let's see if we can reconstruct the timeline here:

1. You made your opinion known that you felt 600+ is funner than a 250. Fair enough.

2. Tromatic came back with a perfectly valid counter-opinion.

3. You get butthurt because you think Tromatic is calling your opinion out and commence to talk shit about how good you are, no one you know is faster, leave liter bikes in the dust, blah blah blah.

4. Make some retarded association with being a film student... Still don't know what the fuck that has to do with the conversation but ok apparently it's supposed to make you seem smart and sophisticated I guess.

5. I call you out (at least on the film student shit, your opinion is fine as far as I'm concerned), you get more butthurt and complain about not being able to have a decent conversation because of arguments about skill.


The only person I saw arguing about "skill" was you.


P.S. I don't know you, so maybe you are a great guy. I don't have a problem with your opinion or you expressing it. But I will give you shit when I feel like it....

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Old 08-04-2012, 03:45 PM   #52
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I mean I watch film of better riders to learn about body positioning... And his counter argument was what contained the original shit talking and assumption that I lack skill. I simply responded to the unnecessary animosity. But I'm done, this is now threadjacking so I digress. Back to the ninja. It looks better than the last gen and if it has fuel injection it will be a major improvement. It definitely has its place for accelerating the learning process for new riders, because it's slow. If it gets more people riding and learning that riding is more than twisting, your wrist then I'm all for it.

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Old 08-04-2012, 08:51 PM   #53
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Yeah I contributed too much asshatery too... My bad.

New Ninjette is sweet looking, better have FI or Kawa can suck it.

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