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Old 08-31-2012, 12:37 PM   #21
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They also have a RSV4 factory in the shop that I have been having lustful thoughts about.

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Old 08-31-2012, 09:10 PM   #22
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I Ride: 07' Triumph Tiger, 08' KTM 450 EXCR, 08' GSXR 1000 Track, 07' Aprilia Tuono
My 2007 Tuono gets about the same 35 mpg. Yes totally different engines. Better if I am a little less ham fisted, which I rarely am. Little yellow "go find a gas pump" light comes on about at about the same mileage. Fun to ride? Yes. Tuono in Italian means Thunder. I call bullshit. It really means "ride for hours on end having a fucking awesome good time".

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Old 09-02-2012, 06:18 AM   #23
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I Ride: 07' Aprilia Tuono, 09' cbr 600 track bike
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My 2007 Tuono gets about the same 35 mpg. Yes totally different engines. Better if I am a little less ham fisted, which I rarely am. Little yellow "go find a gas pump" light comes on about at about the same mileage. Fun to ride? Yes. Tuono in Italian means Thunder. I call bullshit. It really means "ride for hours on end having a fucking awesome good time".
I totaly agree, after almost 30 years on a cbr I found an 07 this last spring and I cant say enough, friday I did the cascade loop in 6 hours 45 minutes, stoping only for gas. I would never thought of 400m in 1 day on a cbr, I think its the perfect street bike

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Old 09-05-2012, 01:55 PM   #24
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I Ride: 2007 CBR1000RR, 2006 WR450F
I rode the Tuono today, interesting ride I must say.

This is the first time I've ridden a bike with electronics like these, but I really did not like that stupid yellow light flashing at me all the time and decreasing HP. It was on the "S" setting, I couldn't figure out how to change that. The "1-8" setting didn't seem to make any difference, I think that was TC and I obviously wasn't trying to spin the rear on a $16K loaner. I just couldn't even figure out if it was a torquey engine or high-rpm engine as the yellow light kept restricting things. I guess I'm used to full power and controlling wheelies with throttle/brake/short shift, I could barely even clutch the thing up. I also had a hard time blipping the throttle on downshifts, I had to really turn the throttle a long way to match revs, maybe the throttle cable just needed a little tightening. I guess now we're supposed to rely on the slipper clutch. Then the electronics ratted me out by posting my fastest mph, couldn't figure out how to get rid of that before returning it.

The Tuono was very comfortable, I could easily spend hours on it if it had a different seat. Sounded incredible. Brakes were awesome and bike seemed very stable during braking, I found myself entering most corners (S Pass Rd) going too slow as the brakes worked "too well", something I'd learn to adapt to. I really enjoyed my time on the bike, I'm sure with more time I'd learn to manage the power delivery/electronics. I just may be hooked on the naked bike concept.

Pacific NW Motorcycles appears to be a recently expanding M/C shop, and the staff were very friendly. I'll be back to spend money in the future.

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Old 09-05-2012, 06:07 PM   #25
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I Ride: '83 Katana
(S Pass Rd)

You must have been gone longer than I was. Did you hit Smith to 9 North?

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Old 09-05-2012, 06:35 PM   #26
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I Ride: fast, except on the road.
I'm not sure what settings it had on it when I rode, but it wheeled very easy in 3rd! This was at a track day at the Ridge.

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Old 09-05-2012, 08:31 PM   #27
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I Ride: 2007 CBR1000RR, 2006 WR450F
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(S Pass Rd)

You must have been gone longer than I was. Did you hit Smith to 9 North?
Smith road, north on everson-goshen, right thru everson to s pass. Did reece rd as well, then turned around and did the whole loop again. I did have to add more gas. Came back hwy 9 and mt. baker hwy.


Kinda humbling clutching up a wheelie about 8 inches and having the fun police kick in.

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Old 09-05-2012, 08:42 PM   #28
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From: Zillah WA, The Dalles OR

I Ride: 2010 BMW 1200GS, 2010 Ducati Monster 1100S, 2011 Yamaha WR250R, 1985 Beta TR32.
How is the leg room on this bike? I have a bad knee and can't handle too much knee bend.

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Old 09-05-2012, 09:11 PM   #29
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I Ride: '06 DRZ SM '12 CBR 1000RR
That's odd. In the 1700 miles I've put on the Tuono I've never had the electronics intervene.

Some have been reported to have a limiter that kicks in around 7500rpms until the break-in period is over (600 miles). Luckily mine didn't have this.

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Old 09-05-2012, 10:18 PM   #30
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Those V4's get terrible mileage...it was concerning on the first full tank, my light came on around 70 miles, the 2nd was around 80-85 miles. I then scrapped the OEM can and CAT for an Akra Slip-On, Straight Pipe to replace the CAT, and a De-restrictor ECU code/race map (with updated 2011+ mapping)...light comes on at 120 now. These bikes run extremely lean, the derestrictor code unlocks the ECU. It's a night a day difference once the code is installed...runs different, smells different, sounds different...crisper all around.

I cannot speak for the APRC models, but I had no limiter upon delivery. And, I did not baby this thing my first ride. I did not ride a certain way or below a certain RPM for break in, I am believer in riding it hard in the beginning to seat the rings. Whether your dealer is for or against this method, mine was on board with me, but stating to make sure to use engine braking for each gear back to stop for oil flow on the decel. Never had a problem, runs strong.

I love the look, but the SOUND............

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Old 09-05-2012, 11:02 PM   #31
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I Ride: 2011 Aprilia RSV4R APRC, 2009 KLR650
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I rode the Tuono today, interesting ride I must say.

This is the first time I've ridden a bike with electronics like these, but I really did not like that stupid yellow light flashing at me all the time and decreasing HP. It was on the "S" setting, I couldn't figure out how to change that. The "1-8" setting didn't seem to make any difference, I think that was TC and I obviously wasn't trying to spin the rear on a $16K loaner. I just couldn't even figure out if it was a torquey engine or high-rpm engine as the yellow light kept restricting things. I guess I'm used to full power and controlling wheelies with throttle/brake/short shift, I could barely even clutch the thing up. I also had a hard time blipping the throttle on downshifts, I had to really turn the throttle a long way to match revs, maybe the throttle cable just needed a little tightening. I guess now we're supposed to rely on the slipper clutch. Then the electronics ratted me out by posting my fastest mph, couldn't figure out how to get rid of that before returning it.

Sounds like the shop had the wheelie control set to the highest setting. Alternatively, the ATC function might need to be calibrated for whatever tires were on the bike. At the lower settings (1-4) you would have to be violent with the throttle or leaned over significantly to engage the TC, but AWC would engage with any hard throttle in the lower gears at setting 2/3. If the bike didn't wheelie at all, it was almost certainly set to max.

One of the beautiful things about the Aprilia APRC package is that A) It does not hard-cut the throttle when TC engages and B) The wheelie control, RBW/map selection and TC are all independent settings, and can be individually disabled (ATC/AWC). My opinion is that for fast street, S or T mode depending on road surface and corner types, AWC setting 1 or possibly 2 if the road is undulating, and TC 3/4 is ideal. On a wet cold day, I'd opt for ATC at 6 and AWC at 2. I run the bike in T mode 98% of the time - basically S only on the shittiest of twisty/dirty roads.

As far as blipping the throttle, that was "Sport Mode" on the ride-by-wire, which reduces the demand relative to the throttle turn a fair amount. Track mode is a far more direct throttle ratio. S is useful for riding in traffic and for limiting torque in the wet in the lower gears.

I've ridden a TV4 back to back to back with my 11' RSV4 and a 10' RSV4-F with a race ECU and a full system. The Tuono has less top-end snap and more midrange - it's definitely a hooligan bike, especially if you drop 1 tooth from the front.

In terms of mileage, I generally expect the light between 80 and 90 miles of mixed commuting. My last tank had the light come on at 108 miles and the bike was not brimming (~37mpg). For reasonable back-road riding the range is 100-115 before reserve and perhaps low-mid 120's for highway slabbing, depending on speed. The tank is specified at 4.5 gallons, but that's based on the 09-10 tanks which did not have the cutout for the gyro/accelerometer unit, located under the seat. Actual tank size is probably more like 4.3 on the 2011+ tanks, and this is reflected by the fuel light coming on around 3.1-3.3 gallons (earlier if you are riding down hills).

On track, it's like any other bike. It gets low-mid 20's if you're spending much time at WOT and at high speeds.

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Old 09-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #32
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ChrisMag, thank you for the educated response. I really wanted to like that bike, and it sounds like the wheelie control on this demo bike were set at the "highest" setting. Like I said, the TC settings didn't seem to matter, but it had nice sticky tires and I wasn't doing anything to spin up the rear. I just couldn't figure out to toggle between the S vs other settings, and even then wouldn't have known if R was for race or rain, etc. I was expecting a midrange-heavy engine, expecting hooliganism, and didn't get either. The top end HP seemed healthy, but I didn't really want to take my eyes off the road too much at speed to see if the electronics were still cutting out. I would agree with the -1 CS sprocket change, seemed geared a little tall for urban use.

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Old 09-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #33
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I Ride: 2011 Aprilia RSV4R APRC, 2009 KLR650
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ChrisMag, thank you for the educated response. I really wanted to like that bike, and it sounds like the wheelie control on this demo bike were set at the "highest" setting. Like I said, the TC settings didn't seem to matter, but it had nice sticky tires and I wasn't doing anything to spin up the rear. I just couldn't figure out to toggle between the S vs other settings, and even then wouldn't have known if R was for race or rain, etc. I was expecting a midrange-heavy engine, expecting hooliganism, and didn't get either. The top end HP seemed healthy, but I didn't really want to take my eyes off the road too much at speed to see if the electronics were still cutting out. I would agree with the -1 CS sprocket change, seemed geared a little tall for urban use.
I'm not 100% sure of the R/S/T maps are the same on the Tuono V4, but on the RSV4, the bottom gears are torque-limited in S mode. In R mode, all gears are. On the Aprilia Race mapping, the S mode is unlimited but has a different throttle translation table than T mode.

Toggling the map is easy - you thumb the starter button once, the map inverts on the dash and then you hit it again immediately to page through the mode.

Again, I definitely think the dealer had the bike set to a conservative overall setting. I set my bike up similarly when I swap with friends who aren't seasoned roadracers or who don't have the money lying around to pay for repairs out of pocket, but who want to set a little feel for the bike.

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