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Old 08-30-2012, 03:37 PM   #1
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Probably a stupid question...
One of my co-workers got a flat tire on his bike last nite and is looking to get it fixed. The question is, can you fix a streetbike tire? I've never ran into this before and was curious. It is tubless BTW

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Old 08-30-2012, 03:39 PM   #2
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:42 PM   #3
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Its a not a stupid question. How did the tire get damaged? Is the there a nail and/or screw in the center of the tire? Than you can repair with kit like this one and follow the directions that come with the kit and you should good for many more miles.

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:01 PM   #4
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I haven't seen it. It went flat last nite on the way home. hex has called a few places today and they said they will not repair.

Thanks guys

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:06 PM   #5
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He can get a gummy plug kit from walmart and be back on the road within hours. I still have a plug in my rear tire from 2010.

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:10 PM   #6
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Can it be fix? Yes, and it maybe just fine....right up until it's not.
Also, a patched or plug tire no longer is speed rated, if you ride hard, replace it.

Personally, and I am by no means a rich guy at all, but really, it's best to replace it.

Tires are cheap, Life-fight to the emergency room is not.

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:25 PM   #7
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Well said Jiffytune.
And NO. Yours is NOT a stupid question. When it comes to safety, Nothing is a stupid question.

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:49 PM   #8
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You won't find anyone to plug it. Their liability insurance won't allow them to plug tires.

You can plug it yourself. I have no hesitation riding a properly plugged tire but that's just me - lots of other people will say I'm stupid for doing it. People will argue about it forever, you have to make your own decision.

If he chooses to patch it, get the mushroom type plug, not the string type. Not that the cord type is bad, just the mushroom type is better.

Edit: Like this one : http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...5/Stop_and_Go2

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:53 PM   #9
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Can it be fix? Yes, and it maybe just fine....right up until it's not.
Also, a patched or plug tire no longer is speed rated, if you ride hard, replace it.

Personally, and I am by no means a rich guy at all, but really, it's best to replace it.

Tires are cheap, Life-fight to the emergency room is not.
I tracked on the previously mentioned plugged tire tire. Excess of 150mph. It's not like it's going to spontaneously explode...

Replacing it isn't bad advice though, it's only money.

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Old 08-30-2012, 05:25 PM   #10
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He can get a gummy plug kit from walmart and be back on the road within hours. I still have a plug in my rear tire from 2010.
You don't ride much do ya.

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Old 08-30-2012, 05:56 PM   #11
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You don't ride much do ya.
I actually took it off and kept it for a spare after I rode from Wyoming to Texas. Ended up having to put it on when I got back, did a trackday and a few thousand miles on it. Definitely due to be replaced.

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Old 08-30-2012, 06:00 PM   #12
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I know of a bike shop in Kitsap county that will repair a tire. Put plenty of miles on it. Now that I have tubes underneath, it's not really a concern whatsoever

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Old 08-30-2012, 08:10 PM   #13
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“ Quote:
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Can it be fix? Yes, and it maybe just fine....right up until it's not.
Also, a patched or plug tire no longer is speed rated, if you ride hard, replace it.

Personally, and I am by no means a rich guy at all, but really, it's best to replace it.

Tires are cheap, Life-fight to the emergency room is not.
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Well said Jiffytune.
And NO. Yours is NOT a stupid question. When it comes to safety, Nothing is a stupid question.
A bike has two small contact patches, that's all that's between you and the pavement. With two ton vehicles buzzing around you, if you have a failure then _ _ _ _ _ _?
PS and yes it can be plugged, would I, Absolutely not...AJ

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Old 08-30-2012, 09:11 PM   #14
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Different strokes...

I wouldn't hesitate to plug/patch insert a tube in a tubeless tire and ride it until it's worn out. And I'd do so if I had a sport bike, too.



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Old 08-31-2012, 02:21 AM   #15
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If you don't mind bringing it to everett I could plug it for you with one of these.



Stop & Go Tire Plugger

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Old 08-31-2012, 06:17 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the info. We work in a repair shop and are very familiar with guidelines on repairing car tires. We also have the "speed rated" patch plugs. My thoughts were replace it for the same reason stated above, but the tire only has about 150 miles on it. It's on a ZRX1200 FWIW.

I appreciate the knowledge. Thanks again.

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:04 AM   #17
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I am just curious if any of these "safety" experts can provide information about a specific case where a repaired tire failed catastrophically due to the repair?!

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:27 AM   #18
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I am just curious if any of these "safety" experts can provide information about a specific case where a repaired tire failed catastrophically due to the repair?!
It's not due to the repair, it's due to the initial damage. Like cords being punctured or broken, etc. Things that a plug just can't fix. At least that's the speech that's given.

However I, like you, can't find any kind of documented failure due to a plugged tire. As a matter of fact, what I see a lot of is mythbusting in this regard.

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:58 AM   #19
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I've run the rubber plugs on two tires to 130+mph for ~70% of the tires life with no noticed adverse effects. Of course I accepted the potential risk associated with that. I would not hesitate to run those at any sort of legal or sane speeds. Of course the "proper" fix is to replace the tire...

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Old 08-31-2012, 09:28 AM   #20
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It's not the repair that causes failure. It's if there is initial damage that compromises the tire or low air pressure that causes failure. I just hadn't heard of repairing a m/c tire.

Have repaired a lot of tires over the years on cars and had very little problem as long as the guidelines are followed.

However, I still haven't seen this particular tire, so I don't if the tire is hurt. We shall see

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