braking - Page 2

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:00 AM

Nobody NEEDS to be riding so hard that they have to use their brakes, but giving someone shit for doing it, come on. People ride on the street for diffrent reasons. Some people like to go out for a Sunday ride and look at the scenery, others want to go out and get a bit of adrenaline running through thier bodies. Two totaly diffrent styles of riding. In my opinion riding on the street is just to damn dangerous to be pushng any limits even a little, but some people cant afford to go to the race track once a week to get their fix like I can so they are left with what they can get. Sometimes that leads to bad things, but hey some times we die doing what we love to do!

Either way I should have known better then to post on here.

mikeames · 09-10-2012, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Stringcheese

This. Riding on the street you don't want to be going 10/10. That's a disaster waiting to happen with all the unknowns around the next corner.

Absolutely!

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:04 AM

PS either way I am faster then you!

Melbs5150 · 09-10-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Jason D

I should have known better then to post on here.

This

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Melbs5150

This

I know Cody but its so hard to read the shit and not post!

Are you going to make a round before the end of the year?

PeeJay · 09-10-2012, 08:07 AM

Yeah, if I'm trying to go as fast as I safely can I'm gonna be on the binders into every corner. And hard on the throttle right after that slightly late apex. I tell folks they can tell when I'm going fast by whether they see my brake light.

Thing is, it seems that OP isn't going any faster than the others who aren't using their brakes. That would throw me off too - when i see brake lights I'm thinking the next corner was exceptionally tight, a surprise decreasing radius, there is a road hazard or something.

smonky could learn, by checking out THE PACE, that he can go at the same pace he's doing now but without braking allatime. Go do it, smonky.

Runout · 09-10-2012, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Jason D

PS either way I am faster then you!

Shrug...you probably are. And if this were a racing/track forum I wouldn't say anything. But it's full of street riders who don't have the luxury of spending time on the track but wreck themselves daily.

But hey...you ride faster than everyone else so you can act like an asshat I guess.

This forum reminds me of being back on the gradeschool playground.

MOTOGPwannabe · 09-10-2012, 08:14 AM

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13472902728241
anyways this guy here is like motorcycle jesus.....he strongly recommends brakes(even on the street)...
i trust him
watch the video.... it seems cheezy but its is 100% proven knowledge.... not opinion.... you ride YOUR PACE.... NOT THE PACE

tims007 · 09-10-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jason D

Nobody NEEDS to be riding so hard that they have to use their brakes, but giving someone shit for doing it, come on. People ride on the street for diffrent reasons. Some people like to go out for a Sunday ride and look at the scenery, others want to go out and get a bit of adrenaline running through thier bodies. Two totaly diffrent styles of riding. In my opinion riding on the street is just to damn dangerous to be pushng any limits even a little, but some people cant afford to go to the race track once a week to get their fix like I can so they are left with what they can get. Sometimes that leads to bad things, but hey some times we die doing what we love to do!

Either way I should have known better then to post on here.

Originally Posted by Jason D

If you are riding with a group of people who dont use their brakes when they ride then I would just find a faster group of people to ride with! There are brakes on a bike for a reason just like a car. You dont go drive around in your car without using brakes do you? That would make for some slow commuting! Anyone who says "we dont use our brakes when we ride" probably isnt anyone I would want to have to wait up for anyhow.

And Im gueesing it was just someone trying to make you feal like a newb because they are such an experienced PNW Street Rider!

im not trying to sound like a smart ass.. but i remember you saying the opposite to me a few years ago ... something about using the breaks and then going round the corner was bad and how i was an idiot for doing so .and that you dont want to ride in a group or with me because of it ... ...

.. and also using the breaks through the corner...( practicing a oh shit i need to stop moment in a corner) was stupid and retarded ....
and yet here you are saying what i have been saying the whole time...

like i said not trying to sound like a smart ass just pointing something out ...

Stringcheese · 09-10-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Jason D

Nobody NEEDS to be riding so hard that they have to use their brakes, but giving someone shit for doing it, come on. People ride on the street for diffrent reasons. Some people like to go out for a Sunday ride and look at the scenery, others want to go out and get a bit of adrenaline running through thier bodies. Two totaly diffrent styles of riding. In my opinion riding on the street is just to damn dangerous to be pushng any limits even a little, but some people cant afford to go to the race track once a week to get their fix like I can so they are left with what they can get. Sometimes that leads to bad things, but hey some times we die doing what we love to do!

Either way I should have known better then to post on here.

I wasn't on the ride, but yeah I wouldn't say anything to anyone either unless it's dangerous or they ask.

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Runout

Shrug...you probably are. And if this were a racing/track forum I wouldn't say anything. But it's full of street riders who don't have the luxury of spending time on the track but wreck themselves daily.

But hey...you ride faster than everyone else so you can act like an asshat I guess.

This forum reminds me of being back on the gradeschool playground.

Trust me I have only been riding for 3 years now and when I first started riding I used this forum to find riders and rides. I bet I went home to get truck/trailer 15 or 20 times that first summer to help people out of the bushes. It didnt take long beofre I stopped using this place for anything other then the track section. I havent had a street bike in almost 2 years now, and actualy just borrowed a buddies bike to do a Coast Run Friday and Windy Ridge Saturday morning. After that I am probably good for another 2 years. Its frigen dangerous out there!

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by tims007

im not trying to sound like a smart ass.. but i remember you saying the opposite to me a few years ago ... something about using the breaks and then going round the corner was bad and how i was an idiot for doing so .and that you dont want to ride in a group or with me because of it ... ...

.. and also using the breaks through the corner...( practicing a oh shit i need to stop moment in a corner) was stupid and retarded ....
and yet here you are saying what i have been saying the whole time...

like i said not trying to sound like a smart ass just pointing something out ...

Not sure I remember the exact conversation, but I do remember you are one of the people I choose not to ride with because I can almost plan to scrape you up off the side of the road every time out. I remember showing up to a scheduled stop and having you brag about chicken strips and how many "OH SHIT" moments you had just had and the guys in front of you were traveling at a very mild pace. Either way I hope your riding has progressed since this time, we all have to start some where.

tims007 · 09-10-2012, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Jason D

Not sure I remember the exact conversation, but I do remember you are one of the people I choose not to ride with because I can almost plan to scrape you up off the side of the road every time out. I remember showing up to a scheduled stop and having you brag about chicken strips and how many "OH SHIT" moments you had just had and the guys in front of you were traveling at a very mild pace. Either way I hope your riding has progressed since this time, we all have to start some where.

oh it has .. and hey we all were a newb once right

..

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by tims007

oh it has .. and hey we all were a newb once right

..

Aint that the truth! I I can say that my riding progresses every time I get on 2 wheels, weather it be my race bike, dirt bike, or even my cruiser! And the conversations we had were a long time ago, I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours learning and now helping other people learn how to ride smarter on the race track which also leads to FASTER!!!

tims007 · 09-10-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Jason D

Aint that the truth! I I can say that my riding progresses every time I get on 2 wheels, weather it be my race bike, dirt bike, or even my cruiser! And the conversations we had were a long time ago, I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours learning and now helping other people learn how to ride smarter on the race track which also leads to FASTER!!!

dito minus track i think i did 20,000+ miles last year

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:39 AM

Did you keep it rubber side down for all of those miles? if so then you must be doing ok.

I did almost that many on the track this year!

tims007 · 09-10-2012, 08:42 AM

all down

Jason D · 09-10-2012, 08:45 AM

Right on.

gannonjf · 09-10-2012, 09:51 AM

I sadly can't find a giant waving e-penis picture. Little help courier?

smonky · 09-10-2012, 09:57 AM

im within my comfort level and feel that im using all the proper techniques. i dont quite understand all the links to 'the pace" as it doesnt really catch me as doing anything different. also i dont quite get how you can maintain one comfortable speed at all times as on the street all corners are different be it camber, pavement conditions, angles...perhaps im missing the point.

i do however ride my own ride and have a damn fine time doing it. i wont lie, i have had a close call or two when i my concentration broke at the wrong time. but i learned from it, refocused and powered on. i appreciate the comments from everyone especially stringcheese who knows the roads im speaking of and Jason D seeing as he has a OMRRA # means alot.

sounds like this is a semi hot topic, continue on!


09-10-2012, 08:00 AM	#21
Jason D Streetfighter Joined: Oct 2009 From: Vancouver USA I Ride: one speed............	Nobody NEEDS to be riding so hard that they have to use their brakes, but giving someone shit for doing it, come on. People ride on the street for diffrent reasons. Some people like to go out for a Sunday ride and look at the scenery, others want to go out and get a bit of adrenaline running through thier bodies. Two totaly diffrent styles of riding. In my opinion riding on the street is just to damn dangerous to be pushng any limits even a little, but some people cant afford to go to the race track once a week to get their fix like I can so they are left with what they can get. Sometimes that leads to bad things, but hey some times we die doing what we love to do! Either way I should have known better then to post on here. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 08:04 AM	#23
Jason D Streetfighter Joined: Oct 2009 From: Vancouver USA I Ride: one speed............	PS either way I am faster then you! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 08:07 AM	#26
PeeJay Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2007 From: Portland, OR I Ride: SV1000S in the faster copper color, and a hell of a lot slower than I used to.	Yeah, if I'm trying to go as fast as I safely can I'm gonna be on the binders into every corner. And hard on the throttle right after that slightly late apex. I tell folks they can tell when I'm going fast by whether they see my brake light. Thing is, it seems that OP isn't going any faster than the others who aren't using their brakes. That would throw me off too - when i see brake lights I'm thinking the next corner was exceptionally tight, a surprise decreasing radius, there is a road hazard or something. smonky could learn, by checking out THE PACE, that he can go at the same pace he's doing now but without braking allatime. Go do it, smonky. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 08:14 AM	#28
MOTOGPwannabe Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2012 From: Port Angeles I Ride: 2010 R1 Vale' Edition, '86 GTR1000	http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13472902728241 anyways this guy here is like motorcycle jesus.....he strongly recommends brakes(even on the street)... i trust him watch the video.... it seems cheezy but its is 100% proven knowledge.... not opinion.... you ride YOUR PACE.... NOT THE PACE __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 08:39 AM	#36
Jason D Streetfighter Joined: Oct 2009 From: Vancouver USA I Ride: one speed............	Did you keep it rubber side down for all of those miles? if so then you must be doing ok. I did almost that many on the track this year! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 08:42 AM	#37
tims007 Superbiker Joined: Feb 2010 From: your moms basement I Ride: i ride bitchrider : a 2000 triumph sprint st and a xr 600r dual sport, and " das car"	all down __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 08:45 AM	#38
Jason D Streetfighter Joined: Oct 2009 From: Vancouver USA I Ride: one speed............	Right on. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 09:51 AM	#39
gannonjf Peg Dragger Joined: Apr 2011 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: for OPRT	I sadly can't find a giant waving e-penis picture. Little help courier? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-10-2012, 09:57 AM	#40
smonky Licensed Joined: May 2010 From: Vancouver WA	im within my comfort level and feel that im using all the proper techniques. i dont quite understand all the links to 'the pace" as it doesnt really catch me as doing anything different. also i dont quite get how you can maintain one comfortable speed at all times as on the street all corners are different be it camber, pavement conditions, angles...perhaps im missing the point. i do however ride my own ride and have a damn fine time doing it. i wont lie, i have had a close call or two when i my concentration broke at the wrong time. but i learned from it, refocused and powered on. i appreciate the comments from everyone especially stringcheese who knows the roads im speaking of and Jason D seeing as he has a OMRRA # means alot. sounds like this is a semi hot topic, continue on! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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