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Old 09-17-2012, 01:11 AM   #21
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I am in Lake Stevens and could check out a bike if you needed assistance.

Jason
If by chance he's not available I could help too. I have an open schedule.
I've said it before. If you bring an "expert" with you it reduces the likelihood the seller trying to BS you too much.
Not that I'm an "expert" but I know bikes and can play the role.

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Old 09-17-2012, 04:30 AM   #22
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Find someone near you that has experience with purchasing MC's. There are WAY too many things to look for and at on a used MC to tell you about over the internet. $1500 for an EX250 seems very resonable to me. If those are too small check out the EX500's and GS500's. Iwouldn't limit myself on the year of the bike, as all these bikes didn't change much (if at all) over the years. I'd rather buy an '88 Ninja 250 that has had one or two owners than a '04 that has been passed from new rider to new riders. Besides the obvious dents and dings, someone looking to learn to ride before they sell the bike to buy a shiny new supersport is likely to neglect maintainance on said "training bike".

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Old 09-17-2012, 07:22 AM   #23
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[QUOTE=NakedPilot;2851546]Find someone near you that has experience with purchasing MC's. There are WAY too many things to look for and at on a used MC to tell you about over the internet. $1500 for an EX250 seems very resonable to me. If those are too small check out the EX500's and GS500's. Iwouldn't limit myself on the year of the bike, as all these bikes didn't change much (if at all) over the years. I'd rather buy an '88 Ninja 250 that has had one or two owners than a '04 that has been passed from new rider to new riders. Besides the obvious dents and dings, someone looking to learn to ride before they sell the bike to buy a shiny new supersport is likely to neglect maintainance on said "training bike".[/QUOTE]

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Very good piont.

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Old 09-18-2012, 12:27 PM   #24
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hey thanks all! i appreciate all the help! don't flame to hard on this, but after a few calls home i began looking at supermotos. i REALLY like the drz400. and the new ones are street legal. have a warranty and are well priced. it's an established bike and replacement parts don't look to bad. payments are easy though nfcu OR suzuki for 2 years. and i'd have a fat downpayment. i really like the warranty side of it too. But are the skills learned on a SM transferable to a street bike or does it become A huge transition and learning a completely different set of skills and starting from ground zero? Or is there a benefit to it? size, power,parts, price, insurance, reliability, all seems to be there. Or am i missing something? while dropping something i am making payments on would hurt, the cost of replacement parts and the like are easy enough to cover financially. maybe not pride wise though hahaha

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Old 09-18-2012, 12:56 PM   #25
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OMG!!
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I can't believe...
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A good choice. I ridden lots but never owned one. You'll love it.
It's kinda like A DUEL SPORT, but with better street handling.
I might have suggested a tard/sumo or super motard but your budget was too low for a decant one. kids.

I don't think you'll have any regrets. Might not be the best for long hwy rides, but it doesn't sound like you really need something for that.
You can learn all sort of fun stuff on one. Wheelies, stoppies, fallies, slidies and anything else a dirt bike can do.

Lot more fun in the rain too.

Hope you got a black one?
Pics?

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Old 09-18-2012, 01:20 PM   #26
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A good choice. I ridden lots but never owned one. You'll love it.
It's kinda like A DUEL SPORT, but with better street handling.
I might have suggested a tard/sumo or super motard but your budget was too low for a decant one. kids.

I don't think you'll have any regrets. Might not be the best for long hwy rides, but it doesn't sound like you really need something for that.
You can learn all sort of fun stuff on one. Wheelies, stoppies, fallies, slidies and anything else a dirt bike can do.

Lot more fun in the rain too.

Hope you got a black one?
Pics?
haven't bought it yet, but that's the kind of response i was hoping for i wan't sure if i'd get flamed if i buy a new bike or not. but i think with it it will be ok. i don't like the idea of switching bikes every season. and i want something with a little more punch in the midrange. i have 50 some days till i come home. my truck is going to stay in wa so insurance and gas alone cover payments, maintenance insurance and fun bits on a new bike. 12-14 mpg sucks in cali traffic haha. i'm pretty darn excited now though. going to call and get pre-approved. got my paperwork finished for the MSF class at the base in sandiego for late november right after i finish pomm leave

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Old 09-18-2012, 01:24 PM   #27
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payments are around 155ish a month for 3 years insurance was 445 for everything for a year.

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Old 09-18-2012, 02:13 PM   #28
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is the SM produced in the states anymore? or is it just the s now?

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Old 09-18-2012, 02:19 PM   #29
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I can't see any reason you'd get flamed for buying a new bike.
I really wish I had a good smart as# comment to insert, but I can't think of anything.

If it's in the budget and you're fine with payments?
I say go for it and don't worry what the few "if you don't have cash, you can't afford it!" people say.
Do what you want and have fun! I've only ever bought one new bike my whole life, never regretted it.

I mean if that's what you really want (like I said ,you'll have a blast) and don't have cash up front for a really nice used one. You're only left with one of two choices.
1. Get a new one and accept the financing charges. Not that big of a deal.
Or
2. Buy a used pile and fix it up. A DRZ SM is like $3000-$4000,so at $1500-$2000 it would be a pile.


I just don't see the problem.

Is this the first thing you'll be making payments on?
My first set of payments was in 1991 ish for a use 1989 Hurricane out of Everett Powersports.
payed $3k, put like 25K miles on it and traded it back to them for $3K on a new Honda RC30.

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Old 09-18-2012, 02:22 PM   #30
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is the SM produced in the states anymore? or is it just the s now?
I'm sure they are. IDK what they call em. To me it's a DRZ with 17" street rubber. Maybe they call it something new? I think it's still the same bike.
I'd get one for my self if I could. They're a kick.

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Old 09-18-2012, 03:46 PM   #31
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Take what ever machine you 'think' you may be interested in to the Dealer. SV? Suzuki dealer, ect.
Spend an hour shop time having them 'look-over the bike'.
They will be familiar with the style bike your looking at. They may find 'hidden' crash damage. They will check the chain and sprockets. charging system, brakes, tires, oil level and condition, ect.
It will be the best hour you can spend on your potential purchase.
Make sure the tool kit and owners manual are included.
Can't find the manual? What kind of care do you think the seller has given the bike?
Do this BEFORE you buy the bike.

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:01 PM   #32
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yeah i really like, the cons i see are slab riding, but most people say they can do 300+ a day on one with a new seat. not a big deal. and that the stock rubber sucks, i'd probably swap to a true sumo rim anyways. ride it for a year or 2 and trade it in.

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Old 09-19-2012, 04:06 AM   #33
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arg, i'm getting really nervous about the whole thing. What if i pick the wrong bike? what if what what if? lol. it's hard trying to decide! i definitely will ride street all of my time. to be a sumo, it seems i need 17 inch rims etc, another 1k or so in parts... so maybe go to a factory sumo? like ktm or something? but dang.... pricey! thoughts? 1500 or so to use a downpayment so it wouldn't be so bad... just wished ktm had the damn msrp's easier to find lol

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Old 09-19-2012, 05:43 AM   #34
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oops.
When I read DRZ. I eminently thought Sumo. I guess that's the way me brain works or doesn't work?
Anyway. If it were me, I would be leaning in the sumo direction for sure.
Mush better street characteristics and you can still rip a dirt road or two (done that on my street bikes).

Whats the price difference between the DRZ and the DRZ SM?

Maybe take out a small loan for a really nice low priced used unit?
IDK, just throwin it out there.

keep your eyes open and there are some really nice bikes out there.
Don't get in a hurry and do what a lot of us do. Pay more because you just have to have it today (I've done it too many times).

You can go very deep in when pricing some of those bikes.

Still my (worthless) vote is for a DRZ sumo or similar.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:56 PM   #35
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sorry it has taken so long to reply, went through a busy underway schedule and some fires etc etc. but i am back. the ninja 250's are slowly coming down in price. plenty of early 2000's around 1500 with 60k or so on the clock. which is great. i have gotten a hold of all the gear except boots through a family friend. all used for a week. boots are the only thing that won't fit. i'm nervous about attempting to daily a bike, but i guess it will be a learning process. my command has me signe up for the basic riders course and sport bike/advanced rider course for as soon as we hit SD in november. I guess i am a little timid about riding in california and getting hit by a car or something terrible. maybe i'm just paranoid

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Old 10-08-2012, 06:45 PM   #36
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I don't know what position you're in as far as wanting a project bike, but this is currently up in the classifieds for $1000, and they're considering any cash offer. A thought.

1988 Ninja 250

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Old 10-09-2012, 06:21 AM   #37
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dang, it's a great looking bike, and i could always put it in for a home of records move and they would ship it to me in san diego... how ever i am only going to have a week home on leave, and i have no idea what that might cost to fix.. i'm not afraid of doing the work myself, but i wouldn't know where to begin on one of these

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