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Old 09-14-2012, 02:59 PM   #61
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No, but I do tend to debate endlessly with myself. You'd probably appreciate the mental image of me repeatedly banging/hitting my Scala rider out of frustration this morning when trying to make a call. It took a bit to realize what that must have looked like to the cars that were following behind me.
Haha...I like it. Somebody ought to do a thread of all those things riders do that cause cagers to say...

"whaaa dafuq?"

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Old 09-14-2012, 03:13 PM   #62
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Appropriately enough, while this thread has been marching along...

I've been running a few errands, and I noticed the same Kirkland police charger has been sitting outside the Starbucks down the street for the last 4 1/2 hours. I would have expected them to run out of donuts already.
I have a friend who works for Kirkland PD and know their call volume is high enough where one officer could not sit for 4.5 hours.

A couple explanations;

1. Doing paper. Many officers save their reports for the end of shift and like to go to a coffee shop to type paper. I easily spend 4 hours in a 12 hour shift doing paper. I had 3 1/2 hours of paper this morning on a DUI.
2. Working at overtime security detail. After the four officers were killed in Lakewood, many coffee shops went to paid security for the safety of their staff and customers.

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Old 09-14-2012, 03:17 PM   #63
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:56 PM   #64
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I just want to preserve all this nonsense.

Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all filled up here.

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Gee, so the thug with a badge gets an unpaid vacation to cancun. Wow! That'll teach the thug.

The sooner we ban police the better. Police are a menace to society. I'd rather deal with the "bad" guys.
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So tell me, just exactly what do police do to protect you?

Show up AFTER the fact and take a report?

Oh wait...they can only show up after the fact to take a report when they aren't busy collecting revenue...err, I mean writing tickets. Of course, they can only collect revenue when they aren't too busy sitting at Starbucks slurping coffee and eating donuts.

Has a cop ever actually prevented a crime? Even once?

I'll repeat, I'd rather take my chances with the "bad" guys.
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Actually i have a lot of respect for our military, but that's a different discussion.

Last time I checked, Japanese engineers and factory workers built my bike. Also last time I checked architects, engineers and contractors built our houses. No cops needed in either case.

So what exactly do cops do again, other than keep donut makers employed?

This time try to focus instead of incoherently rambling nonsensically... if possible.
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Yes. Exactly why would I need a cop to help me design or build buildings?

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Whew! You sure read a lot of stuff into my posts that I never even came close to saying. You assume an awful lot. You might want to reread my posts and then reread your response. I sure don't remember ever coming close to claiming the human race was altruistic/generous/blah blah blah.

You probably don't want to know what I think of the human race. I flip flip between sometimes thinking it has unlimited potential and thinking the human race to be little more that walking wastes of oxygen and misappropriations of flesh.

If the cops actually did what you said and tried to catch the bad guys after they harmed me, I'd probably be willing to accept that as the best they can do. They don't!

I admitted that my views are partially colored by my own experiences with police. I wasn't born with the views I have of police. The police contributed to the negative image I have of them. I've been harmed far worse by the police than I ever have by the "bad guys".

If police want my respect and support, they need to reform themselves, improve their job performance, and start earning my respect and support. Until then, I consider them a menace to society.
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Nah...you just made up a lot of stuff and ended up debating with yourself. If you want to debate me, you have to actually debate the silly things I say.
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Such delicious irony in you posting this. Thank you for the cheap entertainment. You can run along now.
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Appropriately enough, while this thread has been marching along...

I've been running a few errands, and I noticed the same Kirkland police charger has been sitting outside the Starbucks down the street for the last 4 1/2 hours. I would have expected them to run out of donuts already.
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Haha...I like it. Somebody ought to do a thread of all those things riders do that cause cagers to say...

"whaaa dafuq?"

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:08 PM   #65
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...Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all filled up here.
Nah. It's better for me to stay here. That way I can be near my own kind.

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:13 PM   #66
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2. Working at overtime security detail. After the four officers were killed in Lakewood, many coffee shops went to paid security for the safety of their staff and customers.
Hmmm. Lemme think about this.

Ah yes. I think i understand now. 4 on duty officers couldn't keep a coffee shop safe, but one off duty officer can? Am I grasping the concept yet?

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:46 PM   #67
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Hmmm. Lemme think about this.

Ah yes. I think i understand now. 4 on duty officers couldn't keep a coffee shop safe, but one off duty officer can? Am I grasping the concept yet?
Dafuq? Really? Messed up man...

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:51 PM   #68
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Hmmm. Lemme think about this.

Ah yes. I think i understand now. 4 on duty officers couldn't keep a coffee shop safe, but one off duty officer can? Am I grasping the concept yet?
My god you sound like a fucking tool.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:06 PM   #69
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:25 PM   #70
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The 98% bad ones give the other 2% a bad name.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:27 PM   #71
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Dafuq? Really? Messed up man...
You know what's even more messed up?

People believe police that can't even protect themselves can somehow protect me.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:36 PM   #72
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My god I'm still trying to think of something intelligent to say.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:44 PM   #73
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You know who hates cops like that more then anybody in this thread? The good cops.

I can tell some of you do not have friends or family who are officers. I do, and their opinion of guys like that pretty strong.

There were almost no cops back in the wild west days. Plenty of robberies back then, and whoever had the gun that was the most accurate at a further distance won the argument.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #74
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Fixt
I have plenty of intelligent things to say on the subject. Although it doesn't matter since your obvious lack of intelligence, and failure to grasp reality are enough that my mere presence in this thread makes me look smarter when compared to you.

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:11 PM   #75
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Appropriately enough, while this thread has been marching along...

I've been running a few errands, and I noticed the same Kirkland police charger has been sitting outside the Starbucks down the street for the last 4 1/2 hours. I would have expected them to run out of donuts already.
Donuts?

Anyway. I see your point and understand why you may have that opinion of police officers.

Personally, I don't like anyone who works for the WSP. I think the vast majority of them are useless, rude, and out to get my money; but that's just me.

When I think of local police departments, I can't remember an instance when they actually prevented a crime. For the most part, they simply show up after the fact and write reports. They do, however, hang around protests and try to maintain the peace.

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:14 PM   #76
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Hmmm. Lemme think about this.

Ah yes. I think i understand now. 4 on duty officers couldn't keep a coffee shop safe, but one off duty officer can? Am I grasping the concept yet?
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You know what's even more messed up?

People believe police that can't even protect themselves can somehow protect me.
Wow Man!!!

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:28 PM   #77
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You know who hates cops like that more then anybody in this thread? The good cops.

I can tell some of you do not have friends or family who are officers. I do, and their opinion of guys like that pretty strong.

There were almost no cops back in the wild west days. Plenty of robberies back then, and whoever had the gun that was the most accurate at a further distance won the argument.
Well, we have plenty of police now, but I don't see a shortage of robberies, or other crimes.

I do see police depts consistently protecting their own though.

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Old 09-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #78
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:33 PM   #79
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Well, we have plenty of police now, but I don't see a shortage of robberies, or other crimes.

I do see police depts consistently protecting their own though.
:shrug:

What do you compare it to? A modern utopia without police? You expect the police to eliminate or almost eliminate all crime?

Please, design a building that couldn't be brought down with controlled explosions.

It's just as realistic of a goal.

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Old 09-14-2012, 10:54 PM   #80
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What do you compare it to? A modern utopia without police? You expect the police to eliminate or almost eliminate all crime?

Please, design a building that couldn't be brought down with controlled explosions.

It's just as realistic of a goal.
Your comparison is assinine. Sorry, it just is. FYI, I could design a building that couldn't be brought down, but it wouldn't be functional.

I'm not asking for utopia, perfection, or anything even close. I'm asking for some measure of effectiveness. If police can't provide that, then let's stop fooling ourselves and pretending they can.

How do we measure the effectiveness of police? By what testable means can we determine if they are cost effective? By cost, i don't just mean money.

When I go to work, it is easy to determine if I'm doing a good job. If I bring a building in on budget, on schedule, without a lot of errors or omissions, I have done a good job. If not, I haven't.

Pick a category of crime...say motorcycle theft? How many bikes were stolen this summer? How many bike thieves were caught? How many bikes were recovered? What efforts were made to catch the thieves and recover the bikes? Were the police effective?

Sorry, but I don't see the police effectively protecting and serving. In fact, I see the opposite. For sure, some of the problem lies with the police themselves, but I'm not even laying all the blame on them. They are being asked to do a job that isn't even possible. They can't even protect themselves, much less protect me.

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