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Old 09-21-2012, 09:27 AM   #1
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Re Titling Salvage Bike??
Hi guys. Relatively new member to your forums. I am from Vancouver BC but frequently head down to your side to enjoy your wonderful roads.

Anyhow to my question, Recently I have been looking for a project and have been looking at salvage bikes sold on a bill of sale. Now I have done some research and it appears I have to do the repairs and bring the receipts to the Washington state patrol where they will then perform an inspection if I pass I can go to the DMV and get a rebuilt title.

Does anyone have any first hand experience?

What are the costs for the inspection and re title?

Lastly how extensive do the repairs need to be? IE if its straight has all the safety stuff (headlight, signals etc) do they care about fairings scratches etc?


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Old 09-21-2012, 09:58 AM   #2
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Its easy as snot..... just look up the regulations reguarding light distances ect....basicly aslong as you put the bike back to stock with dot aproved turn signals ect they wont care. Inspections are scheduled by apointments.. to depending on what state your titling the bike in is the website you are going to have to find...how do i know.. well im riding a totaled rebuilt title bike

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:49 AM   #3
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Hi guys. Relatively new member to your forums. I am from Vancouver BC but frequently head down to your side to enjoy your wonderful roads.

Anyhow to my question, Recently I have been looking for a project and have been looking at salvage bikes sold on a bill of sale. Now I have done some research and it appears I have to do the repairs and bring the receipts to the Washington state patrol where they will then perform an inspection if I pass I can go to the DMV and get a rebuilt title.

Does anyone have any first hand experience?

What are the costs for the inspection and re title?

Lastly how extensive do the repairs need to be? IE if its straight has all the safety stuff (headlight, signals etc) do they care about fairings scratches etc?


Cheers guys
I haven't had a red dot in a while, (that shit really pisses me off) but WTF are you up to. Where is the original title, bill of sale shit. I will sell you the Seattle Space Needle and provide you with a bill of sale, for only a 100k. (that's a bargain) And as far as repairs, shit why bother just send the "Poor Sucker" down the road who gives a shit if he can't maneuver due to bent frame and who needs working brakes anyway. Jesus Christ, next to the Rider Down Threads, Stolen bike is about the next most posted...AJ

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:56 AM   #4
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And one other thing how the hell are you with your admitted limited knowledge going to determine if the frame or forks are bent. You are looking to make money off some "Poor Sap" are you going to pay a professional to check said parts; I think not.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:11 AM   #5
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lol jims ...... you seem tense today ?

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:27 AM   #6
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I am looking at a bike for myself. I need the bike to be titled in order to export the bike to Canada. I would like to conduct as much of the work myself in Canada. I have yet to purchase a bike. I have read the regulations. But you can only garner so much reading and interpreting on the internet. I am looking for guys with first hand knowledge. I am not looking to exploit anybody or retitle a stolen bike. It is far harder to buy a salvage bike, and there are far fewer bikes in Canada, hence why I am looking in the US.

Thank you for the on topic responses.

*****All the salvage bikes I have seen sold at auction in WA have been sold on a Bill of Sale...Is this normal or should it have a salvage title...this is the question I want to know. There are many reputable auction sites that sell salvage bikes but only on a bill of sale...I am wanting to know if bikes sold on a bill of sale can ever be retitled as rebuilt or are they strictly parts only bikes from now on.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:31 AM   #7
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DO ONT BUY A BIKE WITH NO TITLE!!!!!! buy a bike with a salvage title .. fix it and grive it ..or jut bring it to canada and then fix it

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:35 AM   #8
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DO ONT BUY A BIKE WITH NO TITLE!!!!!! buy a bike with a salvage title .. fix it and grive it ..or jut bring it to canada and then fix it
Thanks...that is exactly what I am trying to figure out.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:39 AM   #9
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lol jims ...... you seem tense today ?
Yes as a matter of fact I am, with the recent fatalities two of which were personal; Then the accident involving the Gentleman on the GW, I guess your correct. And to the OP, why not just buy a clean used bike? Maybe you won't get as much displacement as with a wrecked bike. But down the road when you have more cash, a clean small bike will likely bring more return and much easier to sell than a rebuilt bike with a "Salvage/Branded" title. If your looking for yourself then I apologize for being harsh...AJ

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:43 AM   #10
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Yes as a matter of fact I am, with the recent fatalities two of which were personal; Then the accident involving the Gentleman on the GW, I guess your correct. And to the OP, why not just buy a clean used bike? Maybe you won't get as much displacement as with a wrecked bike. But down the road when you have more cash, a clean small bike will likely bring more return and much easier to sell than a rebuilt bike with a "Salvage/Branded" title. If your looking for yourself then I apologize for being harsh...AJ
yep that will do it ... sorry for your loss...

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:47 AM   #11
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You can use the Bill of Sale from an auction house to get a vehicle titled. This is very common on insurance auction re-sales that the title not be given at sale. However, that being said it is more money on registration to get the title for the bike. I think your best bet would be to check with the Canadian Border Control on exactly what you have to do to get the vehicle into the country and if a bill of sale would suffice. This may save you money in the long run.

I had purchased a MC at a sherrif's auction that was a salvage titled bike but they gave me a bill of sale. I applied for a title transfer and also had to pay vin inspection and records research. Took 4 weeks to get the title it said reconstructed. I then modified the bike into a bobber style and applied for a custom built motorcycle permit and VIOLA the title no longer said salvage.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:49 AM   #12
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yep that will do it ... sorry for your loss...
Thank You, I worked with Dean (Chris) since he first started in the logging industry at 17, just a kid. And the other was a son of a man I graduated with. I love riding, but my bike is in the classified section as I write...AJ

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:56 AM   #13
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Thank You, I worked with Dean (Chris) since he first started in the logging industry at 17, just a kid. And the other was a son of a man I graduated with. I love riding, but my bike is in the classified section as I write...AJ
maybe take up shooting . i hear its a safer sport.. i know i did/am .. i only ride for commuting as $20 a week is better than $80 a week

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:01 PM   #14
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maybe take up shooting . i hear its a safer sport.. i know i did/am .. i only ride for commuting as $20 a week is better than $80 a week
Have active member ship at a private range, first targets 100m to 500m "No Problems."

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:02 PM   #15
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i know of a place with 1000 yards set up let me know if your round these parts

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:05 PM   #16
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i know of a place with 1000 yards set up let me know if your round these parts
Don't want to jack this guys thread, pm me...AJ

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:11 PM   #17
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Sorry for your loss.

I have bought my last three bikes from the US well priced clean examples, I just want something to tool away on over the winter. I can assure you I will have a pro inspect the bike and all the work I do.

I know for a fact the bike must have a title in order to be imported to Canada. I am not hugely worried about the costs of re registering the bike as long as they are not exorbitant. I have only seen salvage bikes for sale on a Bill of Sale...many of which "look" to be just cosmetically damaged. In Canada, at least in BC it is impossible to purchase a salvage bike unless you are a dealer.

I am not new to bikes AJ and its not necessarily a money issue. I have a pair of perfectly good bikes in my garage I would just like one that I can work on and fiddle with a bit...Figured might as well start with one that needs some work as opposed to yanking apart a perfectly clean Street Triple.

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:38 PM   #18
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i have a salvage titled bike that is already set up .. but i will only sell it for $4299.95 .. that way i can get a bmw 1100rt-p better for my commuting ..



note the many improvements such as the hayabusa calipers the ohlins rear suspension the raceteck front suspension and the custom rear rack made for one up touring ( also have a two up rack) also have side cases ( never been used) corbin seat . my list could go on for years lol

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Old 09-21-2012, 08:30 PM   #19
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The reason they sell on a bill of sale is because there really isn't such a thing as a legal "salvage title" in this state. When the vehicle is totalled the title is turned in and it is destroyed from record. Hence why it is sold as a bill of sale is because there is no title for it between the sale and the inspection.

I haven't had a bike inspected through the process but I've dealt with cars and its relatively simple. The requirements for cars are that you have reciepts for all "major" parts you are replacing. With cars the repairs dont need to be 100% complete, it is merely complete enough that the car is safe and legal to drive. The integra I ran through there was most definitely not finished but it was put together and had all the lights and safety requirements needed.

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Old 09-22-2012, 11:07 AM   #20
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Thanks DCdeuce, that is what I expected. I have now spoken with the Washington DMV and have a better idea of the fees involved, and am comfortable buying a bike with only a bill of sale.

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