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Old 10-04-2012, 11:38 AM   #41
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What? Big bore, cams, exhaust and carb keep the stress-free maintenance cycle of the DRZ. I'm not sure what you're talking about?
He's talking about the reason your bike looks like this!?


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Old 10-04-2012, 11:40 AM   #42
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I'm fairly certain the point goes to pete.


Mxyzptlk, how "maintenance free" is it really without that top end? considering my stock bike only comes apart for...umm...well...no, it doesn't come apart

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:45 AM   #43
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He's talking about the reason your bike looks like this!?

That's an abnormal circumstance. The spark plug wiggled out and stripped the threads. It happens to cars and bikes alike. :( If the bike was still stock, it would have still happened.

Before this, I haven't opened my engine except to check valves in over a year since I did my big bore.

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I'm fairly certain the point goes to pete.


Mxyzptlk, how "maintenance free" is it really without that top end? considering my stock bike only comes apart for...umm...well...no, it doesn't come apart
Except for checking the valves, the engine doesn't get taken apart on big bores unless it's an abnormal circumstance.

I suggest checking the thumpertalk forums to see how many 434 and 490 drz owners there are and how maintenance free the upgrades really are. Except for valve checks and oil changes, they rarely ever take their bike apart.

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:46 AM   #44
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And Debi's and DragRacer's and all those other blown up modified DRZ's.

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:50 AM   #45
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And Debi's and DragRacer's and all those other blown up modified DRZ's.
Debi's bike had 40-60k miles on it? That's a lot for a thumper, especially when it lived a hard raced life.

How about all the stock DRZ's that blow up as well? I think you're trying to skew the data.

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:51 AM   #46
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Debi's bike had 40-60k miles on it? That's a lot for a thumper, especially when it lived a hard raced life.

How about all the stock DRZ's that blow up as well? I think you're trying to skew the data. Usually when something goes wrong, it's due to a preventative fix that wasn't done.
i think it had about 40k on it and she replaced the WHOLE top end. just like jim's.

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:53 AM   #47
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Yes and after the motor was opened up they did not last long. Jim got what, 2 miles out of his?

Not saying they can't be built to hold power but if an experienced engine builder can't keep it together maybe the after market parts are not the greatest quality?

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:58 AM   #48
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Yes and after the motor was opened up they did not last long. Jim got what, 2 miles out of his?

Not saying they can't be built to hold power but if an experienced engine builder can't keep it together maybe the after market parts are not the greatest quality?
I don't know the details of Jim or Debi's blow up, but there are also stock engines that blow up at low miles while still under warranty with all the scheduled maintenance. Sometimes it's the luck of the draw.

When I did my big bore, I replaced all the valve pieces and everything has been fine since. I expect the bottom end to lose a bearing before the top end wrecks.

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Old 10-04-2012, 12:10 PM   #49
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I better sell my DRZ now. It might blow up.

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Old 10-04-2012, 01:09 PM   #50
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i think it had about 40k on it and she replaced the WHOLE top end. just like jim's.
Did the top and bottom end at 50,000 and got another 1000 out of it then had that ring issue on that last tard ride, fixed it and put in Ferrea valves when we had it apart vs OEM valves and I got what 4 laps in when it went Poof
This


to this in 4 laps at PGP


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Yes and after the motor was opened up they did not last long. Jim got what, 2 miles out of his?

Not saying they can't be built to hold power but if an experienced engine builder can't keep it together maybe the after market parts are not the greatest quality?
This is what caused my poof...


Ya see it????/ yeah a damned keeper slipped

But in all it was a damned good fun bike and very much could take anything I threw at it except this

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Old 10-04-2012, 01:23 PM   #51
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Stock DRZ's last forever..

Make the motor bigger and wait for it to pop.. it will.

I've seen 7-8 guys locally all pop their big bore kits (danny, pete, debi, drag racer etc)


Get a bigger street tard if your a bigger guy...

Normal service intervals (3k oil changes).
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I've had my KTM for 8 years.. RIDDEN THE PISS OUT OF IT, still going strong.
I wheelie right past all the modded drz's you can shake a stick at at 70-90mph no motor mods...
































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Old 10-04-2012, 01:46 PM   #52
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I Ride: 05 KTM450SMR, 04 YZF250 and one bad ass Truck hehe
Don't forget the other fun things that are there for your taking hehe

https://vimeo.com/9457948

Broke my foot this day
https://vimeo.com/11481195

Shifter issues in this one due to the weekend before when I broke my foot
https://vimeo.com/11793567

https://vimeo.com/13499483


It's easy to put over 40,000 miles on one of these in 2 years

Josh is right about more CC's for weight ... proof here as he wheelies by me at 60 or 70 mph

https://vimeo.com/10913002

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:10 PM   #53
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Simple rule for any engine, reliability is inversely proportional to the number of performance modifications. If your engine is making more power, there is that much more stress on all the parts, simple as that.

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:21 PM   #54
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What started as a simple thread has become an explosion of sumo-tard-dual-sport craziness. Now I have even less idea what to get and I'm twice as jazzed. I was leaning towards the DR and now I seriously want to ride a DRZ.

There's a little bit of hooligan coming out in this old man, even though I'm just a boring year round commuter.

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:37 PM   #55
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The DRZ is a fantastic bike, I almost got one last week but backed out since the price for it + rims were enough to get a different bike I'd been wanting for awhile.

I still want to ride one though :(

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:48 PM   #56
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I'll probably wind up with the DR because I want to ride something cross country, but the DRZ looks like more fun.

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:02 PM   #57
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Drz is a hoot and a half for sure. I'd let you ride mine if you round here

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:19 PM   #58
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I'll probably wind up with the DR because I want to ride something cross country, but the DRZ looks like more fun.
you can grab a DRZsm for cheap and an extra set of wheels (19/21) and you have the best of both worlds..

http://www.motostrano.com/Warp-9-Suz...0XgApw&click=2

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:20 PM   #59
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you can grab a DRZsm for cheap and an extra set of wheels (19/21) and you have the best of both worlds..

http://www.motostrano.com/Warp-9-Suz...0XgApw&click=2
while your point is valid, it doesn't address what your quoted

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Old 10-04-2012, 03:20 PM   #60
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