View Poll Results: Which is sexier, Italians or Japanese
Ducati Hypermotard 14 9.86%
Ducati Monster 17 11.97%
Ducati 1199 67 47.18%
Yamaha R1 23 16.20%
Moto Guzzi 21 14.79%
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #21
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I dont believe comfort to be an issue. I have "Buns-O-Steel"
Not so much referring to the seat or ergonomics but rather the vibration on the handlebars, the smoothness of the power delivery making it hard to hold a speed, and the heat from the exhaust during hot days in traffic.
I went at looked at the specs on the R1 and you aren't sacrificing a whole lot of technology going with it. Sure it doesn't have an engine break system like the Ducati but it's a 4 cylinder and doesn't need that system to counter the engine breaking, the rest of the electronics seem to be on par with each other aside from a pretty looking screen.

And...I love my Panigale and I would have sex with it if it was possible.

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Old 10-12-2012, 12:41 PM   #22
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I Ride: 2006 Suzuki GSXR 600; 2007 Yamaha FZ1 (the Mrs.'s bike)
I’ve got experience with both. Here’s my $.02

Italians are temperamental. Owning one is like marrying a dead sexy dominatrix. They are stunningly beautiful, walk on the wild side, and the ride…. oooh the ride. Cosě eccitante! To hear that deep rumble at full song is incredible. However, they are used to getting their own way. They’ll force you to into all sorts of painful and uncomfortable positions – but you’ll probably learn to like it. They’ll love expensive things and demand to be pampered. They also demand that you look the part if you’re going to be seen with them. Of course, if you neglect them or refuse to say “yes mistress” when they speak, they’ll punish you.

I of course left my Italian girl behind, but there are times when I still long for her. Would I get another….hell yeah!

Japanese are the like the girl next door. If I learned one thing in my advanced age, it’s that you should never overlook the quiet ones. I’ve got a ménage going with a Suzuki and a Yamaha and loving every second of it. They voices aren’t deep and husky, but when you really get em going, they scream. The sound is so good, you want to hear it again and again. Unlike their Italian cousins, they’re up for anything anytime. They could care less what I’m wearing, and if I overlook them now and again, they never hold it against me. Whatever I want, whenever I want it, however I want it, they’re always up for it.

Would I ever leave them behind? I’m having the time of my life right now, but this German with all of her electric toys has been catching my eye from time to time and this Austrian….don’t get me started on her. Oh so schön!

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Old 10-12-2012, 01:02 PM   #23
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I’ve got experience with both. Here’s my $.02

Italians are temperamental. Owning one is like marrying a dead sexy dominatrix. They are stunningly beautiful, walk on the wild side, and the ride…. oooh the ride. Cosě eccitante! To hear that deep rumble at full song is incredible. However, they are used to getting their own way. They’ll force you to into all sorts of painful and uncomfortable positions – but you’ll probably learn to like it. They’ll love expensive things and demand to be pampered. They also demand that you look the part if you’re going to be seen with them. Of course, if you neglect them or refuse to say “yes mistress” when they speak, they’ll punish you.

I of course left my Italian girl behind, but there are times when I still long for her. Would I get another….hell yeah!

Japanese are the like the girl next door. If I learned one thing in my advanced age, it’s that you should never overlook the quiet ones. I’ve got a ménage going with a Suzuki and a Yamaha and loving every second of it. They voices aren’t deep and husky, but when you really get em going, they scream. The sound is so good, you want to hear it again and again. Unlike their Italian cousins, they’re up for anything anytime. They could care less what I’m wearing, and if I overlook them now and again, they never hold it against me. Whatever I want, whenever I want it, however I want it, they’re always up for it.

Would I ever leave them behind? I’m having the time of my life right now, but this German with all of her electric toys has been catching my eye from time to time and this Austrian….don’t get me started on her. Oh so schön!
In that vein, the Americans are like the “mature” Vegas hooker, not really that sexy, a bit dumpy, and they may leak a bit, but they are still a nice soft ride, with no sudden surprises. The only down side is the borderline “Village People” costumes that many feel obligated to wear.

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Old 10-12-2012, 01:27 PM   #24
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I Ride: 1991 XR250L, 2007 BMW F800S, 1999 ATK 605 ESDS/SM
Don't lump all italians together, Guzzis are VERY reliable.

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Old 10-12-2012, 01:48 PM   #25
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I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!
With the money spent on a panigale, I could have one, sweet, r1.

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Old 10-12-2012, 02:09 PM   #26
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:27 PM   #27
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In that vein, the Americans are like the “mature” Vegas hooker, not really that sexy, a bit dumpy, and they may leak a bit, but they are still a nice soft ride, with no sudden surprises. The only down side is the borderline “Village People” costumes that many feel obligated to wear.

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Old 10-12-2012, 02:29 PM   #28
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Or you can wait and see what Yamaha does with that fancy new crossplane triple they showed off at the last big show.
If they build it into an FZ11(00) with 150+HP, reasonably light, and R1 spec suspension, I'm there!!

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Old 10-12-2012, 03:03 PM   #29
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I really like my monster. Super comfortable, like the feel of the bike too. Fast enough to get me an award or two. The Ducati community has been very helpful.

It drags hard parts on the track, but will never get as leaned over as the others. Still I won't be sore after long rides.

Good luck with your decision.

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Old 10-12-2012, 04:12 PM   #30
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.....

And...I love my Panigale and I would have sex with it if it was possible.
I'm surprised Ducati didn't do a spin off of the famed Fiat commercial...





or better yet, have both a sexy italian and sexy - I mean 'hot' - Japanese models who... this is turning into... yeah.


Having seen the Panigale video on youtube with the termignoni, even if it were possible to have sex with it i'd blow a load before i could get it unzipped...



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Old 10-12-2012, 04:49 PM   #31
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To me ducs like Porsche Boxsters scream "i want to look cool!!!". This is just an opinion.. Fact is there reliability is crap and there expensive as hell to modify and repair. Who wants to date the half retarded supper model. Sure its fun at first but after a few embarrassing moments and a case of gonorrhea (ducs give you gonorrhea) you will wish you had settled for that cheaper more realistic ride.

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Old 10-12-2012, 04:55 PM   #32
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...so... ...vibration... ...the power... ...making it hard... ...the heat... ...during hot days... ...a whole lot of... ...going with it. Sure it doesn't... ...need... ...the rest... ...to be on par...

And...I love... ...sex with it...


Uhhh... OK...? (sorry, hangin with Stella)

Why does a full exhaust make that big of difference, is the ECU really programed for the track that much that the stock exhaust puts that much back pressure on it

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:20 PM   #33
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To me ducs like Porsche Boxsters scream "i want to look cool!!!". This is just an opinion.. Fact is there reliability is crap and there expensive as hell to modify and repair. Who wants to date the half retarded supper model. Sure its fun at first but after a few embarrassing moments and a case of gonorrhea (ducs give you gonorrhea) you will wish you had settled for that cheaper more realistic ride.



Being as mechanically inclined as I am and having worked in the field of Quality for over 8 years – Every now and then someone comes along with an opionion on things mechanical in nature such as yourself.

I've owned a land rover – that supposedly has a horrible mechanical reliability - thus the degradation in value, thing performs like a dream but only if you take care of it. I’ve found that over the years things that are built for performance require more maintenance. Ask anyone who works in aviation (not Boeing) and they will agree - that if you let an airplane sit, over time the systems will fail due to lack of use.

I honestly never take my vehicles to the dealer unless it’s free – and even then I go over everything that was done. Land Rover wanted 1000 to replace the coil pack on my rover, it cost me a total of $85 and a little time with my girlfriend Stella.


Since we’re busting out our mindsets… Mine is as follows:

I'm of the mind set that if you do it yourself - taking the time to learn (whether that be on your own or having someone show you), you'll save money, enjoy learning something, but most of all feel accomplishment instead of 'Fuck, I just had to blow $1000 on this piece of shit, what a piece of shit, I'm gonna tell everyone I know of my severe stupidity, but primarily my ignorance which results from my lack of drive to maintain something that I feel should maintain itself because I'm retarded, and having the opinion of ‘why should I take care of something that cost $12 grand?’…

When they came out with seat belts, people didn't buy the cars that had them because they felt that if it needs a seat belt - its not safe.

Its ridiculous how people who own things, whether they be a house/bike/car, spend sooooooo much money on them yet don't take the time to learn to maintain it yes some things are easier than others, but REALLY!

Your Ducati is a 'piece of shit' because of you – being a piece of shit - not the bike.

Its called operator error and failure to perform adequate preventative/routine maintenance and procedures.

If ignorance didn’t exist that I would agree with you, but it does, and I don’t



By the way, if you haven't guessed, i found your reply severely lacking in substance and/or having an opinion of value that correlates to the original post.

I would appreciate it if you didn't post again.

Thanks.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:39 PM   #34
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I Ride: Guzzi Griso 8V, Husaberg Supermoto, Duc 848 Evo Corse
I bought one of the first Griso 8V's 3 years ago and it always brings a smile to my face on twisty back roads. Also very easy to maintain. I wouldn't take it to a track though, mostly because a low side can cost big bucks for a new head. I've done it before, and it's cheap to insure full coverage.
You can get a Griso 1100 2 valver real cheap if you can live with 80 hp.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:43 PM   #35
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You have a nice list of bikes, and will have fun owning any of them. I have been riding Ducs for 16 years now, and I love them. That being said, the 1199 is not a good choice for a daily commuter bike. The bike is designed for the track or the hills, traffic of any kind will kill you on the 1199, the bike hates going under 40mph. I owned a Monster for 3 years as my daily commuter bike, I loved it. In addition to the Monster 1000, I also had a 999. If I didn't have the 999, I would not have liked only having the Monster. So I think you should get the 1199 for the track and the hills, and get the Monster, or the Moto Guzzie for you daily ride. Win-Win

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:44 PM   #36
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I apologize fully I meant no disrespect at all. It was a joke and i am surprised anyone could take what i said in a serious fashion. Ducs can in no way give you any std's. I happen to be a mechanic and do repairs daily of hypothetical pieces of shit. It is in the eye of the beholder. So lighten up and please rethink you banning me from your comparison post.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:48 PM   #37
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You have a nice list of bikes, and will have fun owning any of them. I have been riding Ducs for 16 years now, and I love them. That being said, the 1199 is not a good choice for a daily commuter bike. The bike is designed for the track or the hills, traffic of any kind will kill you on the 1199, the bike hates going under 40mph. I owned a Monster for 3 years as my daily commuter bike, I loved it. In addition to the Monster 1000, I also had a 999. If I didn't have the 999, I would not have liked only having the Monster. So I think you should get the 1199 for the track and the hills, and get the Monster, or the Moto Guzzie for you daily ride. Win-Win


If only i had a $36,000 toy budget

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I apologize fully I meant no disrespect at all. It was a joke and i am surprised anyone could take what i said in a serious fashion. Ducs can in no way give you any std's. I happen to be a mechanic and do repairs daily of hypothetical pieces of shit. It is in the eye of the beholder. So lighten up and please rethink you banning me from your comparison post.
Dont apologize, this is the internet.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:52 PM   #38
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I apologize fully I meant no disrespect at all. It was a joke and i am surprised anyone could take what i said in a serious fashion. Ducs can in no way give you any std's. I happen to be a mechanic and do repairs daily of hypothetical pieces of shit. It is in the eye of the beholder. So lighten up and please rethink you banning me from your comparison post.
Congratulations. After only 5 posts you have managed to offend someone's tender sensibilities.

You just may have a great future here.

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Old 10-12-2012, 06:11 PM   #39
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Congratulations. After only 5 posts you have managed to offend someone's tender sensibilities.

You just may have a great future here.
lol i just got back into ridding this month after a 4 year hiatus.. people got sensitive and developed a lack of recognition of sarcasm jk jk ducatis are cool

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Old 10-12-2012, 06:45 PM   #40
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If only i had a $36,000 toy budget



Dont apologize, this is the internet.
Sloppy? Can it be?

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