I don't care about power, but I do want smoothness..... - Page 2

blakegaston · 10-15-2012, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Pvster

Yup, practice. If you're having to deal with 0-1% throttle openings in the corners, you're doing it wrong I hate to say. You do NOT want to enter a corner off throttle. At least maintain steady throttle to hold a consistent speed, or apply light throttle. Also try bumping up another gear before entering a corner. It sounds like you need to work on better throttle management more than body positioning right now.

When trail braking into a corner? Like T11 at the ridge? Sharp decreasing radius corners?

RedKat600 · 10-15-2012, 07:48 AM

Go see Nels! He can smooth out your throttle response....get a Power Commander or ask him about ECUnleashed.

S1KRR · 10-15-2012, 08:49 AM

Another plug for Nels at 2WheelDynoWorks, he installed a PC5 and did a custom tune on my S1000RR with the stock exhaust and did a great job smoothing out the power delivery and softening the on/off throttle feel at lower to mid RPMs.

theJrod · 10-15-2012, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by blakegaston

When trail braking into a corner? Like T11 at the ridge? Sharp decreasing radius corners?

While you DO enter a corner with the throttle closed, you should be back on the gas (maintenance throttle) before the apex of the corner. Even in T11 at TRMP.

nemisis714 · 10-15-2012, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Gotama

aye

Aye

MarvTravis · 10-15-2012, 09:41 AM

There are a couple of things you could do:

1. Select a higher gear which will reduce your RPMs and reduce the power available, which is the easiest solution. This will smooth the throttle response significantly.

2. Get and install a Revolver Throttle Kit that adjusts the sensitivity of the throttle.

See http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....ZclaYc6X7EI07t

Texasl · 10-15-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by MarvTravis

There are a couple of things you could do.

1.Stay in a higher gear so there's less power available

Government mathemetician?

paradox206 · 10-15-2012, 11:49 AM

Thanks for asking this! I've been wondering the same thing about my VFR. I knew most of it was due to my lack of skills but it sounds like getting a tune couldn't hurt either. Time to do more research!

seattleman · 10-15-2012, 11:53 AM

The only way that you'll ever eliminate that 0%-1% throttle slap is with the judicious use of a clutch, or with an automatic transmission. Practice will make it more tolerable, but you'll never eliminate it.

blakegaston · 10-15-2012, 12:36 PM

I didn't experience it though with the ninja 250... or at least, it was considerably less...

Going on / off throttle in like... 5th gear is much easier and more comfortable for the initial crack of throttle. However, once its cracked open, then I have too little power to be usable.

RedKat600 · 10-15-2012, 12:39 PM

I typically only have this issue when my chain is too slack....but I do also have a PowerCommander and a Nels tune.

blakegaston · 10-15-2012, 09:32 PM

I couldn't find on the website what a Nels tune goes for. Can anyone give me a rough ballpark?

Also, is it pointless to get a Nels tune before getting an exhaust / PC / etc? Would I benefit more investing in those mods first?

Thanks again!

KevinD · 10-15-2012, 10:31 PM

Nels runs ~$150 for a full tune.

He can FlashTune your ECU, so you don't need a Power Commander, but it costs more.

You can make all the mod.s if you want, but Nels can still greatly improve a stock bike.

KevinD

Gotama · 10-15-2012, 10:48 PM

here is another satisfied customer

pubic Awesomeness

Darvax · 10-16-2012, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Gotama

here is another satisfied customer

pubic Awesomeness

Lol

on two counts there.

tornaido · 10-16-2012, 05:57 AM

Go jump on a 650 twin, or any big twin. Commute around on it. Get back on your modern inline 4. Smoothness Problem solved.

Wyckedan · 10-16-2012, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by blakegaston

I couldn't find on the website what a Nels tune goes for. Can anyone give me a rough ballpark?

Also, is it pointless to get a Nels tune before getting an exhaust / PC / etc? Would I benefit more investing in those mods first?

Thanks again!

Just call him. Ask questions, get answers from him, buy what he says will help, and your bike will be happier for it.

KevinD · 10-16-2012, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Wyckedan

Just call him. Ask questions, get answers from him...

And be ready to be on the phone for 30+ minutes: this guy is just full of information that he likes to share!

KevinD

blakegaston · 10-16-2012, 08:16 AM

Thanks for all the advice. After my KFG service, I will give Nels a call!

RedKat600 · 10-16-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by tornaido

Go jump on a 650 twin, or any big twin. Commute around on it. Get back on your modern inline 4. Smoothness Problem solved.

I ride an SV1000....I can confirm this. Nels has yet to get his hands on it...still twitchy.


10-15-2012, 07:48 AM	#22
RedKat600 Joined: May 2011 From: LaCenter, WA I Ride: 2003 Copper SV1K	Go see Nels! He can smooth out your throttle response....get a Power Commander or ask him about ECUnleashed. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 08:49 AM	#23
S1KRR Licensed Joined: Aug 2010 From: Renton, WA I Ride: BMW S1000RR, Suzuki SV650	Another plug for Nels at 2WheelDynoWorks, he installed a PC5 and did a custom tune on my S1000RR with the stock exhaust and did a great job smoothing out the power delivery and softening the on/off throttle feel at lower to mid RPMs. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 09:41 AM	#26
MarvTravis Endorsed Joined: Dec 2004 From: Kirkland, WA I Ride: ZX14	There are a couple of things you could do: 1. Select a higher gear which will reduce your RPMs and reduce the power available, which is the easiest solution. This will smooth the throttle response significantly. 2. Get and install a Revolver Throttle Kit that adjusts the sensitivity of the throttle. See http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....ZclaYc6X7EI07t __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by MarvTravis; 10-15-2012 at 09:54 AM..


10-15-2012, 11:49 AM	#28
paradox206 Permit Joined: Mar 2012 From: Seattle I Ride: DRZ400sm "The Honey Badger" & VFR800 "Toasty"	Thanks for asking this! I've been wondering the same thing about my VFR. I knew most of it was due to my lack of skills but it sounds like getting a tune couldn't hurt either. Time to do more research! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 11:53 AM	#29
seattleman Endorsed Joined: Jul 2012 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: 2008 BMW R 1200 GS	The only way that you'll ever eliminate that 0%-1% throttle slap is with the judicious use of a clutch, or with an automatic transmission. Practice will make it more tolerable, but you'll never eliminate it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 12:36 PM	#30
blakegaston Licensed Joined: Feb 2012 From: Bellevue, WA I Ride: GSXR600 // KTM 450 SMR	I didn't experience it though with the ninja 250... or at least, it was considerably less... Going on / off throttle in like... 5th gear is much easier and more comfortable for the initial crack of throttle. However, once its cracked open, then I have too little power to be usable. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 12:39 PM	#31
RedKat600 Joined: May 2011 From: LaCenter, WA I Ride: 2003 Copper SV1K	I typically only have this issue when my chain is too slack....but I do also have a PowerCommander and a Nels tune. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 09:32 PM	#32
blakegaston Licensed Joined: Feb 2012 From: Bellevue, WA I Ride: GSXR600 // KTM 450 SMR	I couldn't find on the website what a Nels tune goes for. Can anyone give me a rough ballpark? Also, is it pointless to get a Nels tune before getting an exhaust / PC / etc? Would I benefit more investing in those mods first? Thanks again! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 10:31 PM	#33
KevinD Joined: Mar 2009 From: Spokane Valley I Ride: Suzuki Boulevard C90, Suzuki DRZ400E, My Wife's Scooter	Nels runs ~$150 for a full tune. He can FlashTune your ECU, so you don't need a Power Commander, but it costs more. You can make all the mod.s if you want, but Nels can still greatly improve a stock bike. KevinD __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-15-2012, 10:48 PM	#34
Gotama Novice Racer Joined: Oct 2008 From: Camp kwitcherbitchen Blog Entries: 3 I Ride: for me	here is another satisfied customer pubic Awesomeness __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-16-2012, 05:57 AM	#36
tornaido Licensed Joined: Jul 2009 From: p town I Ride: Like a Boss	Go jump on a 650 twin, or any big twin. Commute around on it. Get back on your modern inline 4. Smoothness Problem solved. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-16-2012, 08:16 AM	#39
blakegaston Licensed Joined: Feb 2012 From: Bellevue, WA I Ride: GSXR600 // KTM 450 SMR	Thanks for all the advice. After my KFG service, I will give Nels a call! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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