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Old 10-23-2012, 10:36 PM   #41
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so can someone briefly explain in dumb-man terms, what the law/regs are these days regarding ethanol - who is mandating, when did it/or will it take effect, and what are the long term ramifictions ? i have read of the folks in the food industry crying foul due to the shortage/price of corn - what's a beef to do ?
Did you read any of the links provided?

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I'm just gonna leave this here....... http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths
This one is a good start.

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Old 10-24-2012, 07:15 AM   #42
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Did you read any of the links provided?


This one is a good start.

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actually, no i haven't - i have a sick kid in seattle, so time has not been in abundance lately - but i have been filling the tanks a lot in the cagers - another part of my query - since my local conoco (which i've been using for 15+ years) has gone e, i'm looking for a suitable replacement - what should i be using ? chevron, texaco, shell ? more than likely, i'll just stick with the conoco until i have time to do a detailed analysis - which for me means driving around endlessly looking for the best deal -

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Old 10-24-2012, 08:05 AM   #43
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In the time it took you to type that up, you could have read 1-2 and possibly 3 of the articles...

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Old 10-24-2012, 09:35 AM   #44
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I ran a tank of Olson Bro's gas through the Tomato Torpedo. The butt-dyno says it ran a little better, but that's probably the result a paying almost 60 bucks! Like someone said, though, I will continue to gas up the Torpedo there to support them. 92 octane is wasted on the Warrior, but I'll give it a shot.

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Old 10-24-2012, 09:42 AM   #45
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actually, no i haven't - i have a sick kid in seattle, so time has not been in abundance lately - but i have been filling the tanks a lot in the cagers - another part of my query - since my local conoco (which i've been using for 15+ years) has gone e, i'm looking for a suitable replacement - what should i be using ? chevron, texaco, shell ? more than likely, i'll just stick with the conoco until i have time to do a detailed analysis - which for me means driving around endlessly looking for the best deal -
It's been mentioned a few times, but read the links. One of which is a directory of ethanol free gas stations in the USA.

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Old 10-24-2012, 10:07 AM   #46
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In the time it took you to type that up, you could have read 1-2 and possibly 3 of the articles...
thanks for the help da

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Old 10-24-2012, 05:35 PM   #47
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It's been mentioned a few times, but read the links. One of which is a directory of ethanol free gas stations in the USA.
oh, you mean the directory that means nothing ? if i wanted old information, that's where i would look - instead, i try to get current info from forum members, but that is obviously pointless too, since all i seem to get is dumbass comments from people too lazy to verify the information they are passing on - thanks again - keep up the good work

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Old 10-24-2012, 05:58 PM   #48
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So the one up in Ellensburg switched to E10? Click on the details link at the far right of the station on the list, you'll see current info/status of the station.

Anyways I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest. All major gas station franchises are E10 by default, Ethanol-free stations generally have to source the fuel themselves and because not many refineries produce ethanol free it's difficult. This is why some stations end up switching, if they're supplier stops providing they may not be able to find another or it's simply cost prohibitive.

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Old 10-24-2012, 07:19 PM   #49
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Cenex in Auburn has E00 premium if anybody cares...

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Old 10-27-2012, 06:15 PM   #50
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I did a little more reading on this, there wasn't a lot out there on Motorcycles so I turned to legislation since we can generally consider auto/motorcycle manufacturers to operate on a 3 year lag regarding EPA policies.

Any motorcycle made after 1995 should be able to handle E10 since that's when ethanol fuel production ramped up but there was no legislation "authorizing" it's use in passenger vehicles. Any motorcycle from before that should avoid using ethanol fuels since the fuel will degrade the engine and other crap (replace your fuel lines/filter if you plan to use E10).

The EPA officially authorized it's use in passenger vehicles manufactured after 2001 so we can consider all motorcycles made after that year (but really 2003 and on) to be ethanol fuel ready (E10 only!). If you're still not sure check your bikes owner manual and see if it mentions ethanol fuel, if it doesn't list it avoid it.


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Old 10-27-2012, 09:53 PM   #51
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Yeah, I feel so sorry for you. Kinda like when I feel sorry for guys that bitch about how much they spend on tires for their fleet of racebikes every season.


I've been poor poor. Like when you have to decide between buying food or paying rent. "Hmm... I can eat this week, but I'll be living in my car next week." I'll take airplane poor any day over that.
A new, base model Toyota 4Runner costs more than we paid for both our planes. So yes, we bitch when we have to pay $6 a gallon for non alcohol fuel.

And I've been poor, poor as well. Pretty much living in my car, except for the kindness of my friends. Been there, done that, but life got better.

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Old 10-28-2012, 11:51 AM   #52
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Ethenol has been around a long time. Henry ford first used ethenol in his cars. If it was a great idea then cars would have continued to run ethenol. It makes no sense to run moonshine derived from our most basic and widely used food source at a higher cost to produce than to use regular gas. These are the issues we face and will continue to face thanks to govt regulators and lobbyists.

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