Do steering dampers effect handling? - Page 6

hugR_orange_Gsxr · 05-25-2007, 07:20 PM

yes enuff bs set a date,track,time

Geoff4RFC · 05-25-2007, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by jasons_r1

This thread ROCKS , Really tho , you bitches need to take it to the track and bang some bars around

Originally Posted by lostscruz

Originally Posted by soggydoo

yes, yes , yes..................to the track, id pay to see that!

Originally Posted by hugR_orange_Gsxr

yes enuff bs set a date,track,time

Yeah boys, lets get it!!!!! I'll even pull a spark plug.

GixxerPete · 05-25-2007, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC

Yeah boys, lets get it!!!!! I'll even pull a spark plug.

MaxxiPads · 05-25-2007, 09:03 PM

You need to own an undertail bike before you make comments about one.
I'm sure the R1, 1krr, ducati's, and even MV's have undertail exhausts and makes every single one of them a worse performer compared to a side exhaust bike? good grief, I'd like to know where you got your engineering degree buddy - reading some magazine articles and skimming some tech forum on the web does not qualify you to make these ludicrous statements about undertail exhausts.

Also riding your little bike on the track no matter how shitty you ride does not qualify you to design bikes either. You can stick with your little side exhaust - I don't have a problem with that.

Originally Posted by DRD2

I'll take this one,

Thats a dumb misunderstanding? Do me a favor, pull your head out of your ass and take a look at an undertail exhaust, then a normal side pipe exhuast.

Which pipe has the least amount of material (wieght)? Which pipe has the least amount of bends, allowing gases to escape easier?

The only advantage I can think of for an undertail is, aerodynamics and cornering clearance. For aero benifits, you loosing some weight would probably have more impact on the aerodynamics than tucking the pipe under the seat. Cornering clearance? If you can drag your pipe on a modern sport-bike you better be sponsored.

TruWrecks · 05-25-2007, 09:04 PM

There. I just made it better.

eric · 05-25-2007, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by MaxxiPads

You need to own an undertail bike before you make comments about one.
I'm sure the R1, 1krr, ducati's, and even MV's have undertail exhausts and makes every single one of them a worse performer compared to a side exhaust bike? good grief, I'd like to know where you got your engineering degree buddy - reading some magazine articles and skimming some tech forum on the web does not qualify you to make these ludicrous statements about undertail exhausts.
.

That first line cracks me up.

MaxxiPads · 05-25-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by eric

That first line cracks me up.

??

what's so funny? so comments such as "burning your leg, burning your ass, bad weight, etc.." is valid even if you've never owned one?

the only thing funny is your riding skills - doh!,

puffy · 05-25-2007, 09:31 PM

This is fuckin terrible, can't we all just get along? On a side note, I would like to see Pete and Gary race at the track, I have no idea who would win.

mnewell · 05-25-2007, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by MaxxiPads

??

what's so funny? so comments such as "burning your leg, burning your ass, bad weight, etc.." is valid even if you've never owned one?

the only thing funny is your riding skills - doh!,

You can't be that dense, can you?

theJrod · 05-26-2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by MaxxiPads

You need to own an undertail bike before you make comments about one.
I'm sure the R1, 1krr, ducati's, and even MV's have undertail exhausts and makes every single one of them a worse performer compared to a side exhaust bike? good grief, I'd like to know where you got your engineering degree buddy - reading some magazine articles and skimming some tech forum on the web does not qualify you to make these ludicrous statements about undertail exhausts.

Also riding your little bike on the track no matter how shitty you ride does not qualify you to design bikes either. You can stick with your little side exhaust - I don't have a problem with that.

I've owned a bike w/ undertail exhaust. Pete is 100% correct.

It's a fashion statement, pure and simple. On a twin, it makes more sense, but on a four it's fashion, nothing more.

Look at the MotoGP bikes - the ones with undertail exhausts are the V-fours and V-fives.... and even then, only the rear cylinders exit through the undertail - the forward facing cylinders exit through the side!!!!!!! Honda made the CBRs to look like their GP bikes! There's no performance benefit to the undertail arrangement.

It doesn't take a genious (or does it?!?!?) to understand that more piping, more bends, and more obstuctions in an exhaust system actually HURT performance.

Since I owned one, I will confirm the burning the rider's leg comment - mine got insanely hot in traffic.

GixxerPete · 05-26-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by MaxxiPads

You need to own an undertail bike before you make comments about one.
I'm sure the R1, 1krr, ducati's, and even MV's have undertail exhausts and makes every single one of them a worse performer compared to a side exhaust bike? good grief, I'd like to know where you got your engineering degree buddy - reading some magazine articles and skimming some tech forum on the web does not qualify you to make these ludicrous statements about undertail exhausts.

Also riding your little bike on the track no matter how shitty you ride does not qualify you to design bikes either. You can stick with your little side exhaust - I don't have a problem with that.

Common sense... if you had any... would tell you what I'm saying is obviously true, and you don't need an engineering degree to see it. Undertail exhausts have a lot more material, which equals more weight. And that weight is up high and on the rear of the bike. Weight up high is felt more than weight down low. Undertail exhausts also have a lot more bends in the pipes, often sharp ones, and sharp bends in pipes are not good for flow, which decreases performance.

So now you have to resort to attacking my bike, and my riding, simply because I point out the obvious truth about undertail exhausts? Does the truth hurt that much that you need to lash out at me to feel better about your poser exhaust? Is my opinion less valid because I choose to ride a smaller bike? You can keep your poseriffic undertail and lose performance to have it - I don't have a problem with that.


05-25-2007, 07:20 PM	#101
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05-25-2007, 09:31 PM	#108
puffy Licensed Joined: Oct 2006 From: portland, OR I Ride: 2004 gsxr 1000	This is fuckin terrible, can't we all just get along? On a side note, I would like to see Pete and Gary race at the track, I have no idea who would win. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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