View Poll Results: What would you do if caught someone stealing your motorcycle
Sneak back into the house and call the cops 19 11.18%
Try and knock the robber out and call the cops 17 10.00%
Beat the robber senseless then call the cops 57 33.53%
Shoot the fucker in the knee caps and call the cops 27 15.88%
Shoot to kill then call the cops 50 29.41%
Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-10-2008, 02:13 AM   #101
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:37 AM   #102
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hug it out bitches. Its getting hostile in here...
I knew it would.

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Old 01-10-2008, 06:12 AM   #103
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make sure after you shoot to kill, that you tell the cops, judge, and jury that you shot to kill.. if you're man enough that is....

then you can go to walla walla and take it in the ass like a man as well.. tough guys.
Exactly.

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Old 01-10-2008, 07:27 AM   #104
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comments like those make me seriously doubt your military training....

it would be SO much fun to put your stupidity to the test, if i didn't think you'd come running out, fall on your face and shoot into the neighbors house.. you'd not hesitate to shoot and kill some stupid 17 yr old high school kid stealing your POS ninja? you think that makes you a man? you're either full of shit, or just completely stupid.

i think you're all talk..
I don't own a ninja. Doubt it all you want, I really don't care. I know what I have done and what I'm doing so I really don't give a shit what you think.

Oh, and no, I am not going to tell you about my military past/history. I can't so don't bother asking again.

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:23 AM   #105
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I asked a cop if I shot and killed a guy while in my rig, if the same rulz apply if he was in the house. Nope. He recommends you dump the body somewhere

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:33 AM   #106
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I would do the same thing if I caught a rapist on my girl....beat half dead and call the cops

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:43 AM   #107
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I asked a cop if I shot and killed a guy while in my rig, if the same rulz apply if he was in the house. Nope. He recommends you dump the body somewhere
Some states your car is part of your house by law. WA isn't one of them.

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:43 AM   #108
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This thread is fucking hilarious. Big collection of Internet tough guys that are so full of shit it's coming out their ears. Most of these self-proclaimed tough guys would never have the balls to actually confront a thief, let alone do any of what they claim they'd to them.

Let alone the fact they'd be the ones going to jail, as many have correctly pointed out, use of lethal force to protect PROPERTY is not justified in Washington. Neither is torture. It would be very amusing if (and that's a HUGE if) someone actually did catch a thief and do all the horrible things to them, and then try to explain that to a jury. "Well, he was trying to steal my motorcycle, so I hung from a meat hook and poured hot oil on him and took a power drill to his knees". They would think you were a deranged psychopath (which would be true) and you'd be locked up WAY longer than the thief, if he was still alive.

Pathetic bunch of fucking Internet tough guy wannabes. Grow the fuck up. Nobody is impressed by your stupid empty threats and torture fantasies. Are you gonna hold you gun sideways when you shoot the guy too?

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:02 AM   #109
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Pathetic bunch of fucking Internet tough guy wannabes. Grow the fuck up. Nobody is impressed by your stupid empty threats and torture fantasies. Are you gonna hold you gun sideways when you shoot the guy too?
c'mon... how else ya gonna put a cap in his ass, yo? lol dear lord now my wife will make fun of my lame ass getto impersonations...again.... lol

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:02 AM   #110
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This thread is fucking hilarious. Big collection of Internet tough guys that are so full of shit it's coming out their ears. Most of these self-proclaimed tough guys would never have the balls to actually confront a their, let alone do any of what they claim they'd to them.

Let alone the fact they'd be the ones going to jail, as many have correctly pointed out, use of lethal force to protect PROPERTY is not justified in Washington. Neither is torture. It would be very amusing if (and that's a HUGE if) someone actually did catch a thief and do all the horrible things to them, and then try to explain that to a jury. "Well, he was trying to steal my motorcycle, so I hung from a meat hook and poured hot oil on him and took a power drill to his knees". They would think you were a deranged psychopath (which would be true) and you'd be locked up WAY longer than the thief, if he was still alive.

Pathetic bunch of fucking Internet tough guy wannabes. Grow the fuck up. Nobody is impressed by your stupid empty threats and torture fantasies. Are you gonna hold you gun sideways when you shoot the guy too?

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:15 AM   #111
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Been a while since I've seen a good thread like this one.

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:15 AM   #112
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Y u think we're all online?? To talk smak and hide behind a screen to pretend we're something we're not....

Everyone here thinks I'm a drunk, tippie ass munch....








ok, nevermind...

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:19 AM   #113
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Y u think we're all online?? To talk smak and hide behind a screen to pretend we're something we're not....

Everyone here thinks I'm a drunk, tippie ass munch....








ok, nevermind...
I thought we got rid of the "spread it around" stuff for rep! cant rep ya, sorry

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:26 AM   #114
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Oh and btw, imo, a bike or any material possession isn’t worth prison time. Jail, maybe, depends on what it is. You guys really would go to prison for a bike that I’m sure you’ve got insurance for? I’m talking prison boys and girls. PRISON! Think about this NOW before it becomes too late. Although I would never do it, I’d hate to be caught just sittin’ on your bike checkin’ it out and get shot in the back. That’d pretty much be a start of a bad day for me. (and you) Rethink it now before it’s too late. You can’t retract a bullet. I could understand kickin’ the shit outta them (if it’s worth it to you) or just layin’ low in your house while you call the cops.

I think if half of you went to jail just once, you’d know better than to shoot someone and kill them. For goodness sakes, take a bb gun to him. Or a taser (of which no one mentioned yet) or even some mace. But don’t kill the kid. Rethink it…

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:29 AM   #115
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Are you gonna hold you gun sideways when you shoot the guy too?
I was at Wades one day and saw a kid shoot his 9mm sideways. The shell popped out of the chamber and landed in the space between his shooting glasses, and his eye lid. He ended up getting his eye lid burnt a little. Needless to say, it was funny as hell.

He also shot the ceiling too when it happened. One reason I don't go there hardly anymore.

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:32 AM   #116
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Obviously DJ doesn't have a wife or kids and would make more sense not to care. Would you go shooting while your wife or kids were in the house? Yea slight change of the poll, but lets be more realist.
Didn't notice this before. Yes I would. I have special rounds that are designed not to penetrate walls for the purpose of home defense.

I think it's funny how people go off on the "internet tough guy" crap. Sorry, maybe for some but I'm just being honest. I have no problem addressing someone in my house with a firearm. I have pulled it out before to chase someone away. Worked well. They didn't come back. If they had entered the home I would have fired. Period.

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I like how you try to pick the wrong law to prove somebody wrong.
Thats only about force, your talking shooting, killing, homicide..
They are stealing your bike, not attacking you (slayer) personally.
They have no weapon and are killed, you've committed murder.
And the deceased isn't the only person who can sue you, so making sure they are dead doesn't close the case.


RCW 9A.16.050
Homicide — By other person — When justifiable.


Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he is.
You need another RCW? Fine.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.16.110

(1) No person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property, or for coming to the aid of another who is in imminent danger of or the victim of assault, robbery, kidnapping, arson, burglary, rape, murder, or any other violent crime as defined in RCW 9.94A.030.

Burglary:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.52.010

Theft & Robbery:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.56


It's a violent crime to steal someone's vehicle. It is also a felony. It is lawful to respond to violent crime with self-defense and that does include firing a weapon at them. It's a felony to steal someone's vehicle so it falls under the homicide rule as well.

Why do you think police approach car thieves with their weapons out? Because they are usually armed. I am not going to see someone stealing one of my vehicles, including a bike, and not pull on them. To address them with anything less than swift violence is putting your own life in extreme immediate danger. Period. Either walk away and call the cops, or shoot to kill. The whole torture and abuse thing I agree with Pete on though... that's just stupid to even suggest. THAT is being an internet tough guy... most people saying that crap would probably freeze up and cry.

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:50 AM   #117
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I don't doubt some of you know how to shoot a gun...but why do you get so fired up when it's called into question? The most highly trained guys I know (I know a couple) wouldn't ever let on what they were about. You really had to dig deep to find out the shit they've seen and done. In my experience there's an inverse relationship between how much shit you talk and how bad ass you really are.

To answer the question though...I'd just call the cops and determine if I was able to contain the guy myself - without bringing my shotgun out. That's for protecting me or my girlfriend only. If I get in a scuffle with the robber and he had a dirty needle in his pocket, even if I kicked his ass I might get infected with something nasty.

I guess I don't feel like a bike is worth taking a life over, unless I was put in danger. It's my choice whether I put my life in danger or not. I give my insurance company a lot of money each year for a reason. That doesn't make me any less of a man, but maybe just a wiser one.

If I did take a gun out and shoot him, his family and friends now know where I live. My situation is to now go home every night looking over my shoulder, and be nervous whenever my girl is home alone. That's no way to live.

My 2 cents.

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Old 01-10-2008, 10:12 AM   #118
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it is very funny how many people on here become instant authorities on what is right and what is wrong. but i guarantee very few have any idea what is actually correct. I believe that everybody has a right to defend what is theirs and their family. before you go on half cocked make sure you know what you are talking about. spreading false information over an internet site is not the smartest thing in the world. not that you should believe everytthing you read but many people are gullible and might believe you. i know some of you in here know what you are talking about but many do not, you know who you are! as far as bad mouthing somebody for where they live.... i cant condone that in anyway, there are many reasons why people live where they do, jobs, financial, family whatever but dont indiscrimately bad mouth somebody for that. not cool curve_hugger!!! if you are not informed on the laws go find out by a reputable source do not waste your time here on a forum, if you just want to talk shit so be it, but many people will not give two shits about what you think is right or wrong, so dont get pist if we call bullshit. have some common sense!!!!!!

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Old 01-10-2008, 10:59 AM   #119
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:03 AM   #120
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I'll be glad to meet you, Nathan, when you make it to AHCC for shooting someone over a motorcycle

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