I was on my way home I managed to get behind a BMW going 35 in a 35. Now I am not a speed demon, but come on! So I passed him. I never left the lane.
Much to my sadness I found that "Lane Sharing" is illegal.
This is the first such experience I have had in my young life. I didn't think I put neither myself or the other driver at risk . Anyway, just was wondering if folks had thoughts.

Tim

Where to even begin, I've ridden a great deal over these past two months so I'm sure most people who realize who I am would agree I'm a good rider. I too am from California but am willing to do my best and adapt to my environment, that being said on the flip side I'm about me and no one else, I don't follow any rules other then than those I've deemed evaluable to riding fast and hard. I do have a child so I'm understanding to the plight of driving around and being preoccupied, if some one cuts me off unintentionally I just swallow my pride and let it slide. Now I recall a time when I was sitting on a street heading out east and found myself on a four lane avenue, I was third back in the left lane waiting for the red light to change when I decided to proceed at a speed of under 5 mph to the front of the line and the section between the cars was extremely wide so I thought it wouldn't case any upset. Once I arrived at the front of the line I immediately heard some profanity and a horn begin to honk, I did my best to control my anger (learned something in anger management) and tried to ignore them. The light turned green and I shot outta that hole thinking I'd left the problem behind, now I see this SUV coming up and knew they wanted an ass beating. Sometime I guess it's just best to give the people what they want, why fight it? They pull along side and his fat pig of a broad begins shouting, flipping me off and shaking her fist at me, they douche bag driver slim shady continues to lay on the horn. I attempt to invite them into the first available parking lot lot so we can discuss this issue, I turn in but am stymied when they continue on their route. They tough guys just keep at it and assume they've seen the last of me, honestly I must be getting old cuz I was going to let it slide. I pull back onto the street and keep my distance, as we approach the next intersection the light is red and I close the gap. Now this tough guy in his 3 ton SUV wants to play pace car and warm up his tires going from left to right across both lanes, at this point all mercy went out the window. I've made my mind up someones getting socked, I kinda hope it's his woman. She was the one in my face mostly and has me red hot. Lucky for her when he comes to a complete stop he's placed he side of the vehicle to close for me to squeeze through, I pull along side the driver and am in neutral and use my rear brake to stop keeping both hands available. I'm not sure what he expected after that little stunt, I was out for blood. Anywhere else I'd have pulled him from the car and stomped the shit outta him. It seemed as though I was watching a movie, not really happening at the speed of reality. When I placed my foot on the ground I simultaneously took a quick survey of my enemy and noticed he was leaning back in the sit hard, just as fast my left fist swung around smashing the bridge of his nose and shortly after it was followed my a quick right to the temple. I'll give the guy credit, for crying like a baby he took those hits and maintained consciousness. Now even if he wanted to do something what's he gonna do? Punch my helmet? I topped this serving of whoop ass off with " you ain't so tough now are you bitch?" The last I heard was someone yelling "did you see what he did?" I hope he see's that every time he closes his eyes or thinks about using his truck as a weapon...

Where to even begin, I've ridden a great deal over these past two months so I'm sure most people who realize who I am would agree I'm a good rider. I too am from California but am willing to do my best and adapt to my environment, that being said on the flip side I'm about me and no one else, I don't follow any rules other then than those I've deemed evaluable to riding fast and hard. I do have a child so I'm understanding to the plight of driving around and being preoccupied, if some one cuts me off unintentionally I just swallow my pride and let it slide. Now I recall a time when I was sitting on a street heading out east and found myself on a four lane avenue, I was third back in the left lane waiting for the red light to change when I decided to proceed at a speed of under 5 mph to the front of the line and the section between the cars was extremely wide so I thought it wouldn't case any upset. Once I arrived at the front of the line I immediately heard some profanity and a horn begin to honk, I did my best to control my anger (learned something in anger management) and tried to ignore them. The light turned green and I shot outta that hole thinking I'd left the problem behind, now I see this SUV coming up and knew they wanted an ass beating. Sometime I guess it's just best to give the people what they want, why fight it? They pull along side and his fat pig of a broad begins shouting, flipping me off and shaking her fist at me, they douche bag driver slim shady continues to lay on the horn. I attempt to invite them into the first available parking lot lot so we can discuss this issue, I turn in but am stymied when they continue on their route. They tough guys just keep at it and assume they've seen the last of me, honestly I must be getting old cuz I was going to let it slide. I pull back onto the street and keep my distance, as we approach the next intersection the light is red and I close the gap. Now this tough guy in his 3 ton SUV wants to play pace car and warm up his tires going from left to right across both lanes, at this point all mercy went out the window. I've made my mind up someones getting socked, I kinda hope it's his woman. She was the one in my face mostly and has me red hot. Lucky for her when he comes to a complete stop he's placed he side of the vehicle to close for me to squeeze through, I pull along side the driver and am in neutral and use my rear brake to stop keeping both hands available. I'm not sure what he expected after that little stunt, I was out for blood. Anywhere else I'd have pulled him from the car and stomped the shit outta him. It seemed as though I was watching a movie, not really happening at the speed of reality. When I placed my foot on the ground I simultaneously took a quick survey of my enemy and noticed he was leaning back in the sit hard, just as fast my left fist swung around smashing the bridge of his nose and shortly after it was followed my a quick right to the temple. I'll give the guy credit, for crying like a baby he took those hits and maintained consciousness. Now even if he wanted to do something what's he gonna do? Punch my helmet? I topped this serving of whoop ass off with " you ain't so tough now are you bitch?" The last I heard was someone yelling "did you see what he did?" I hope he see's that every time he closes his eyes or thinks about using his truck as a weapon...

I was on my way home from Tuesday night coffee and I managed to get behind a BMW going 35 in a 35. Now I am not a speed demon that demands 20 over, but come on! So I passed him. I never left the lane or blew the double yellow. Anyway driver honks and screams. I ignore him and accelerate off. He pulls up behind me and continues honking and screaming. Keep in mind I have done nothing further to antagonize him. So here is the fun part, he starts following me. So I start diving into parking lots, which he continues to follow me into. So I just keep on going and he keeps honking and screaming.

Needless to say my blood is pumping now, I keep evading. I am only about half a mile from home now and about a mile from the police station. Lets say people there like me . I figure if he keeps coming I have options. So I hit a main drag and I just take off and nestle myself into some other traffic and I don't see him again.

Much to my sadness I found that "Lane Sharing" is illegal. Now I am a law abiding citizen so I see that a car cannot prevent a motorcycle from lane sharing, but a motorcycle also cannot overtake a car even if done within lane and safely. Now it seems I committed a traffic violation, but then again Mad Max behind me has quite a few more and a few crimes as well during his little tirade.

This is the first such experience I have had in my young life. I didn't think I was driving aggressive and I was well within my safe limits and put neither myself or the other driver at risk and yet dude has a mental breakdown over the whole thing. Anyway, probably didn't NEED to post that, just was wondering if folks had thoughts or similar experiences.

Tim

Well, I condensed your post down to the main points and yes I have some thoughts about it.

1) You were upset that someone was doing the speed limit? Oh, the Humanity!!

2) You are young, and ignorant of the law, and because you were annoyed that someone had the audacity not to speed when you wanted to, felt that it was perfectly okay to pass them illegally in their lane. You also felt you weren't putting yourself (or them) at risk. What you did either startled them, pissed them off, or both. Yes, the other guy severely over-reacted, but you were the catalyst and your move was the genesis of the incident.

I can only surmised from the above that you, like a lot of people today, have a misplaced sense of entitlement to do whatever YOU feel is okay, regardless of what the law is, and regardless of how others perceive and react to it. You don't sound like you have enough experience riding to really know what is safe. What if the guy didn't see you and suddenly made a turn w/o a signal? What if he was reaching to turn the radio and didn't notice he was drifting to the side of the lane you passed him in? You have to ALWAYS be ready to react to the "what if" contingencies that everyone in the cages tend to do. Hell, often people will look right at you and STILL don't seem to see you, and yet you think you were safe doing what you did?

If you cannot understand the danger you potentially put yourself in, then you're an idiot.

This is one of the best ways, I know of, to land your ass in jail . When you take it to the next level you just put yourself in a bad position. Get his license # and report as road rage incident and let the police handle it. Don't let some dumb ass ruin you day or your life.

...In california theres a lot of courteous drives and when splitting lanes at a light to get to the front people would actually move out of your way and make a bigger path for you but there were a few occasions like the guy you passed tonight that didnt like it and would move there car to close the path or make it more difficult and one time comes to mind when I was with a friend and we were splitting lanes and this guy purposely moved over to try and block are path and saw his eyes looking in his side mirror at us, well "my friend" raised his elbow as we passed and it accidentally hit his side mirror and pretty much took it off it was hanging by a cable it appeared, very sad story ...

...My advice for anyone would be to avoid confrontation, if you aren't able to elude a car while on a bike through parking lot's well you can't ride and outta think about taking some more driving lesson's. Seriously for your own safety. Fluffy22 can give you some pointer's, tell her I sent you and get a discount. (LoL)

It must be rainin, but this aint bench racin.

To the OP;
Have patience.
You will be stuck behind a lot of slow ass vehicles in your time.
I've even gotten used to being caught behind HD's.
If you are cool, many will let you by in the right circumstances.

To the rest
Your stories are really sad.

Shrek,
Sturgis is a destination (and a suckass one with crappy countryside all around)
Bikin is about the ride........, I thought.

I can't count the number of times that I wish I had a small rocket launcher mounted on the front of the motorcycle...

I just can't let it get to me that much -- if I did, then I'd probably be a raving lunatic too. er, um ahhh...

A small paint ball gun mounted in the ram air box with remote control would be nice.

...... or maybe a middle finger with so much force that i super heat the surrounding air hot enough to produce a thunderclap.

this is one of the best ways, i know of, to land your ass in jail . When you take it to the next level you just put yourself in a bad position. Get his license # and report as road rage incident and let the police handle it. Don't let some dumb ass ruin you day or your life.

A small paint ball gun mounted in the ram air box with remote control would be nice.

Was paint ball attack an isolated incident or proof of racist city?



Author: Mike Doogan
Anchorage Daily News
Date: March 4, 2001
Publication: Anchorage Daily News (AK)



When three young men decided to cruise around shooting at Alaska Natives with a paint ball gun, was it simply another isolated incident that proves some people are just bad people? Or was it proof that Anchorage is a racist city? Or was it something in between?

Then;

A 20-year-old Eagle River man was charged Tuesday with seven counts of misdemeanor assault in connection with videotaped paint ball attacks that targeted Alaska Natives and outraged local community leaders. The suspected activities of Charles D. Wiseman and two unnamed 17-year-olds were described in an 11-page criminal complaint filed in Anchorage District Court. Both the district attorney's office and Anchorage police declined to say whether the two juveniles have been charged.

this is one of the best ways, i know of, to land your ass in jail . When you take it to the next level you just put yourself in a bad position. Get his license # and report as road rage incident and let the police handle it. Don't let some dumb ass ruin you day or your life.

And your point is Don't shoot Alaska Natives with a paint ball gun and video tape it. I can agree with that.

The drunk natives are everywhere in Anchorage and talked about as a problem, even on the news. When some teenagers target one native and put their vid on Youtube it boils into a huge controversy.

My point is watch the ideas we suggest as there are those who will try it.

Sorry, I can't be responsible for some dumb shit who can not tell the difference between joking around and being serious. Anchorage is not the only place where teenagers do stupid things. Boy set on fire.

No one is asking you to be responcible for anyone. I would feel terrible if my suggestion were to give instability an idea as if it is OK to hurt others. Understand my reasoning?

I know Anchorage isn't the only place, DUH...........

If it makes you feel terrible then don't say or write anything that can be taken incorrectly by some unstable person. As I said it's not my problem and please do not try and tell me what I can say or how I say it. Thank-you very much.

I honestly don't know how I got involved in this conversation?!
I unfortunately disagree with the actions here. Yes, I learned how to ride in California and enjoys the advantage in lane splitting. However, I do not practice it here in Oregon nor Georgia since drivers are not as aware of their surroundings. And even in California, I had a bitter driver who stuck a hand out and tried to knock me off my bike. Drivers are predictable: they are a danger to us as motorcyclists. Plain and simple. You can't control how they behave, and the best thing to do is to walk away from it.

The advice you gave was to avoid confrontation but the story kind of swung the opposite. I guess I'm just a bit confused with the moral of the story??

Do you see that so far your the only one impressed with the amount of 230lb pull downs you can do? Nobody cares. If I was at your gym, I would be more concerned that some douche waffle was too busy staring me down, which happens all the time. I think most big gym rats have some deep rooted gayness and enjoy looking at mens bodies, I'm sure you know of some forums or magazines that you like to stare at and admire another mans glutes.

All I'm saying is flexing your bicep and curling your fist doesn't always work, sometimes you have to use your brain too.

Are you the clone of Steven Segal?

WTF, are you nuts?

WTF, are you nuts?

Nope. I can personally verify that Lee is a sane, competent and great guy.

Sorry about my lack of proper structure in my prior post, I'll do my best from now on to use paragraph format.

I think I will need a second opinion.

A bit too sensitive for sure.

First I want to say that Mr. BMW reacted like a shit heel, and shame on him for doing so.

That being said, whether you like the idea of lane splitting or not, the fact is that it isn't legal here. People here aren't used to it and don't expect it. Maneuvers they don't expect aren't safe for you and tend to scare the crap out of them. A lot of people get angry when they get scared. Then they act like shit heels.

I've done some stupid things in my life and sadly I'll do more. But if you try to learn something from it, you'll be healthier (both mentally and physically). The lesson here is that maybe going the speed limit for a few minutes would have been a lot more pleasant than what happened as the result of unexpectedly sharing someone's lane. Especially since you don't know that someone and he might be highly unstable.

Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
--Will Rogers

Jeeps this was a very tough thread!

pv2

Lena hasn't closed it yet so it can't be that tough.