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Old 07-22-2012, 11:23 PM   #121
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Not sure if I want to move back to Portland with so many unmarked cars everywhere...big change.

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Old 07-23-2012, 04:04 AM   #122
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Not sure if I want to move back to Portland with so many unmarked cars everywhere...big change.
That's usually the first thing I look into when I am considering a move to a new city.

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Old 07-23-2012, 04:27 AM   #123
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I'm baffled by people on a sport motorcycle forum who think that a) speed limits are just fine in Oregon b) that cops are decent human beings not out for max profit and c) that it's not wise/fun to do everything possible to get away with riding fast without getting caught.
Because some of us know some of them. District policy regarding revenue targets isn't the same thing as beat cops out trolling for dollars because they just like fleecing sheep. I could have been done for 75 in a 55 by B-Tron local, but they let me off due to circumstance (was being hounded by a car). I was even on my R6, so there was no question of who I was or what my hobbies were. Some cops are pigs, others are decent people looking out for our safety.


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I figured your panties were already so far up your cootch they'll never come out, so I suggested a place for you to take out your frustrations and pains.
I figure he'd be more happy over at Freeperville. They like being unhinged over there. It's a sport.

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Old 08-16-2012, 08:54 AM   #124
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:10 PM   #125
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If cops can patrol unmarked, we should be able to dress as cops

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Old 08-25-2012, 06:04 PM   #126
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If cops can patrol unmarked, we should be able to dress as cops
Wow, excellent and well thought out argument there.

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Old 08-29-2012, 12:40 PM   #127
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:39 PM   #128
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I remember a time when traffic enforcement officers were required to be in well marked, visible and distiguishable vehicles as a matter of law. The people we vote for changed this for no better reason that to sneak up and collect alternate taxes known as traffic fines.

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Old 08-29-2012, 02:36 PM   #129
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If cops can patrol unmarked, we should be able to dress as cops
You can, nothing stopping you. Long as you don't try making someone think you are a cop, you're good to go. Pay no attention to people telling you that you're a complete moron, what do they know, do it dude!!!

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Old 08-29-2012, 09:37 PM   #130
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I remember a time when traffic enforcement officers were required to be in well marked, visible and distiguishable vehicles as a matter of law. The people we vote for changed this for no better reason that to sneak up and collect alternate taxes known as traffic fines.
I'm ALL for ultra high profile police! What if I need to flag you down in an emergency, and all I see driving by is some douchebag in a fucking black SUV?

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Old 08-30-2012, 07:10 AM   #131
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If cops can patrol unmarked, we should be able to dress as cops

I say go for it.

Portland Region

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Old 08-30-2012, 07:36 AM   #132
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I'm ALL for ultra high profile police! What if I need to flag you down in an emergency, and all I see driving by is some douchebag in a fucking black SUV?
Is their a level of emergency that requires you to flag down only an officer? Just flag down anyone you can. Or just call the police yourself.

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Old 08-30-2012, 07:50 AM   #133
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I'm going to go ahead and quote myself and see if I can rack up any more negative reps for not joining the "I hate cops" club. Mxyzptlk was the latest taker with "poor taste" as the comment. Anyone have anything better?

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There are big white signs everywhere that remind people to slow down. In fact they have the speed that the police would like you to stay under, written in big-ass black letters. Since when should police have to remind you to slow down in "police presence"? I get so fucking tired of idiots that do that shit. Usually they drop way below the speedlimit. If it was up to me, there wouldn't be any marked cars at all. People shouldn't have to see a white and black car with lights on top and the word "POLICE" written all over in order to do the right thing and drive responsibly, and within the law.



It's not a business, it's law enforcement. If you don't break the law, you don't get any trouble.

Okay it is like a business:

Starbucks: You don't like their coffee? Think it costs way too much? Think it tastes like shit? Hate the music? Then don't fucking go in there.

Cops: You don't like getting pulled over for speeding? Don't speed.
You don't like tickets for little/integrated turn signals? Don't use little/integrated turn signals.
Don't like getting arrested for doing wheelies? Don't do wheelies.
Don't like getting hassled for a plate that is way up under your tail? Put it where you know damn well it should be.


It's the same stupid ass logic that people use when they sue for spilling hot coffee all over their crotch, or because they got cancer from smoking cigarettes, or the bag didn't say that it wasn't a toy, so I let my kid play with it. "well they didn't tell me that my actions would require the most basic of common knowledge and ability to conduct myself as a motherfucking adult. Therefore it is somebody else's fault"

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Old 08-30-2012, 09:39 AM   #134
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^^^^

Agreed. One of the best posts I've seen.

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Old 11-19-2013, 05:51 AM   #135
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There are big white signs everywhere that remind people to slow down. In fact they have the speed that the police would like you to stay under, written in big-ass black letters. Since when should police have to remind you to slow down in "police presence"? I get so fucking tired of idiots that do that shit. Usually they drop way below the speedlimit. If it was up to me, there wouldn't be any marked cars at all. People shouldn't have to see a white and black car with lights on top and the word "POLICE" written all over in order to do the right thing and drive responsibly, and within the law.



It's not a business, it's law enforcement. If you don't break the law, you don't get any trouble.

Okay it is like a business:

Starbucks: You don't like their coffee? Think it costs way too much? Think it tastes like shit? Hate the music? Then don't fucking go in there.

Cops: You don't like getting pulled over for speeding? Don't speed.
You don't like tickets for little/integrated turn signals? Don't use little/integrated turn signals.
Don't like getting arrested for doing wheelies? Don't do wheelies.
Don't like getting hassled for a plate that is way up under your tail? Put it where you know damn well it should be.


It's the same stupid ass logic that people use when they sue for spilling hot coffee all over their crotch, or because they got cancer from smoking cigarettes, or the bag didn't say that it wasn't a toy, so I let my kid play with it. "well they didn't tell me that my actions would require the most basic of common knowledge and ability to conduct myself as a motherfucking adult. Therefore it is somebody else's fault"
WOW! REALLY?
You need to put down the coffee and ride. GO SLOW? ON A BIKE? That's like telling a crack smoker not to smoke that crack in his hands!!!! GET REAL!!!! ROTFLMFAO!!!!

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Old 11-19-2013, 06:05 AM   #136
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Just do what you're told.

How hard is that to understand?

Oh, and make sure everyone else does what you think they should be doing, and if they're not then call the cops.

It's the American Way.

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Old 11-19-2013, 07:34 AM   #137
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One other option, one that take much more effort of course, is to work within the system to get laws changed, to get fees reduced, speed limits raised and to enact such practicalities as lane splitting and lane filtering.

For the most part, motorcyclists only seem to be good at working outside the system as outlaws, which leads to new more strict laws. Ironically, some motorcycle groups have managed to influence/drive stupid legislation such as not requiring the use of helmets in some states.

Given the choice of doing battle with a bunch of legislators and bureaucrats for years, most people take the easy way out and ride however they like. I doubt we can get speed limits raised since there is such a national panic about safety, but it would be great to see a real effort to change lane splitting laws.

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Old 11-19-2013, 10:48 PM   #138
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There are big white signs everywhere that remind people to slow down. In fact they have the speed that the police would like you to stay under, written in big-ass black letters. Since when should police have to remind you to slow down in "police presence"? I get so fucking tired of idiots that do that shit. Usually they drop way below the speedlimit. If it was up to me, there wouldn't be any marked cars at all. People shouldn't have to see a white and black car with lights on top and the word "POLICE" written all over in order to do the right thing and drive responsibly, and within the law.



It's not a business, it's law enforcement. If you don't break the law, you don't get any trouble.

Okay it is like a business:

Starbucks: You don't like their coffee? Think it costs way too much? Think it tastes like shit? Hate the music? Then don't fucking go in there.

Cops: You don't like getting pulled over for speeding? Don't speed.
You don't like tickets for little/integrated turn signals? Don't use little/integrated turn signals.
Don't like getting arrested for doing wheelies? Don't do wheelies.
Don't like getting hassled for a plate that is way up under your tail? Put it where you know damn well it should be.


It's the same stupid ass logic that people use when they sue for spilling hot coffee all over their crotch, or because they got cancer from smoking cigarettes, or the bag didn't say that it wasn't a toy, so I let my kid play with it. "well they didn't tell me that my actions would require the most basic of common knowledge and ability to conduct myself as a motherfucking adult. Therefore it is somebody else's fault"
What's the most effective way to enforce the law; catch and punish those that break it or deter people from breaking it in the first place? What's a more effective deterrent; the fear that maybe a cop could be around to give you a ticket or seeing a cop right over there?

A passive visual warning, such as an occupied marked police car sitting along side the road, causes everyone who drives by to slow down to near the speed limit. This has made that section of road safer as everyone is on their best behavior.
A stealth traffic enforcement car that hides out and picks off the person who is speeding the most every 15 or 20 minutes does not improve safety for anyone.

The stealth cars exist solely for the purpose of generating revenue. They are not protecting or serving the community. Your eloquent rant about accepting the consequences of ones actions does not change this fact.

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Old 11-20-2013, 02:38 AM   #139
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What's the most effective way to enforce the law; catch and punish those that break it or deter people from breaking it in the first place? What's a more effective deterrent; the fear that maybe a cop could be around to give you a ticket or seeing a cop right over there?

A passive visual warning, such as an occupied marked police car sitting along side the road, causes everyone who drives by to slow down to near the speed limit. This has made that section of road safer as everyone is on their best behavior.
A stealth traffic enforcement car that hides out and picks off the person who is speeding the most every 15 or 20 minutes does not improve safety for anyone.

The stealth cars exist solely for the purpose of generating revenue. They are not protecting or serving the community. Your eloquent rant about accepting the consequences of ones actions does not change this fact.
Can you back this up? Have evidence to support this? You know, just as well as everyone else, that once people get out of sight of the marked vehicle they go right back to speeding. They slow down for what, 10 seconds or so for the marked rig? Maybe not even that depending on where it is.

It's also a fact that once ticketed, some drivers don't speed anymore. Both ways work, whether we like them or not.

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Old 11-20-2013, 11:36 AM   #140
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Oh god some of the responses here are amusing!

First off, NOTHING in the police department is purposed as "revenue generating", it is for "law enforcement". The revenue generated is nothing more than byproduct of stupid or inattentive people, which by the way I think is great so don't get me wrong, it would otherwise have to come out of our property taxes.

So keep on keeping on and support your local law enforcement!





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