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Old 09-27-2011, 09:49 AM   #41
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ummm fail?

Im purty sure that there right thur is a str8t line...
In the officers defense that spot where she crashed is directly after a pretty tight corner, the picture obviously doesn't show it very well. I have been around that corner a thousand times in a car, usually going around 65 mph and that is almost too fast.

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Old 09-27-2011, 09:55 AM   #42
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If she was out catching real criminals she wouldn't have wrecked her car trying to chase somebody who I as a tax payer couldn't give a fly fucking about.
What if that bike was on the highway that you used to get to work everyday, and he crashed backing up traffic for hours, would you care then?

What if your house was on the highway that he was using as a personal racetrack?

What if you were pulling out of your driveway and some douche canoe doing 130 came through your passenger door and landed on your lap?


You aren't the only one who pays taxes.

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Old 09-27-2011, 09:57 AM   #43
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Sadly, if she had hit another vehicle and hurt someone, the cop haters on this site would still be blaming the officer and not the motorcyclist.
Not just cop haters, but also sensible people.

Heck yeah the officer would be blamed and rightfully so. You ever heard the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right'? The motorcyclist that was going over the speed limit (and really not that fast for that road), does not grant immunity to others for bad judgement and actions.

Judging by your 'tone of typing', (yes, I am assuming here), the next time you find yourself going over the speed limit, you being a good law abiding person should actually turn yourself in to authorities. It would probably make you feel better.

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:01 AM   #44
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What if that bike was on the highway that you used to get to work everyday, and he crashed backing up traffic for hours, would you care then?

What if your house was on the highway that he was using as a personal racetrack?

What if you were pulling out of your driveway and some douche canoe doing 130 came through your passenger door and landed on your lap?


You aren't the only one who pays taxes.
Dude, the bike was going 74 mph in a 55. Hardly a big problem. Certainly not worth the risk and expense of crashing an expensive police car. Bonehead move by the "professional" who was supposed to enhancing public safety.

Cops can provide a useful service in some cases. In this case, they failed and helped to make a very benign problem far worse.

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:07 AM   #45
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Dude, the bike was going 74 mph in a 55. Hardly a big problem. Certainly not worth the risk and expense of crashing an expensive police car. Bonehead move by the "professional" who was supposed to enhancing public safety...
In my experience when I'm speeding the officer turns on the lights and followes me till I pull over. I'm figuring she was trying to do the same thing till he ran.

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:08 AM   #46
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You know, there seems to be a crappy double standard here. I don't think cops signed up for the job to catch speeders, but to catch criminals. On the other hand you do what your boss says. They need more revenue so tickets it is.

With that said tho, how do you know that bike wasn't stolen? And as someone said, how do you know she didn't radio ahead?

If the bike was your stolen bike and cops said "we saw your bike but he ran so we didn't chase what would you say? Be happy they didn't even try?

As for the other cars that didn't stop to help, ya that's messed up but in the pic the car seems parked and looking for speeders lol so I agree, first glance I wouldn't assume crashed unless I saw it

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:58 AM   #47
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Not just cop haters, but also sensible people.

Heck yeah the officer would be blamed and rightfully so. You ever heard the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right'? The motorcyclist that was going over the speed limit (and really not that fast for that road), does not grant immunity to others for bad judgement and actions.

Judging by your 'tone of typing', (yes, I am assuming here), the next time you find yourself going over the speed limit, you being a good law abiding person should actually turn yourself in to authorities. It would probably make you feel better.
Sorry, but the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" is juvenile and doesn't really apply to people who break the law. Police have to exceed the speed limit to catch people who are speeding. They also have to shoot at people with real guns when they are being fired on or the public is in danger and sometimes *gasp* they actually kill the bad guys.

The motorcyclists was doing 19 over, so what is the threshold? 25 over? 30 over? Again, it doesn't matter what you think, it's the law and the police officer was doing the job that your tax dollars pay her to do by enforcing it. If you don't like the law, you do your duty as a citizen to change it. How many elected officials have you written about it? How many groups have you organized? How much time away from pnwriders.com have you spent doing something that actually mattered?

Well, my "tone" can be interpreted any way that you want. I rarely speed anymore, especially not 20 over. The last time I got a ticket, I didn't whine like a bitch about being treated unfairly and cry about cops needing to catch real criminals. I paid the fine and went on with life.

Their job is to enforce laws that are voted on by publicly elected officials. Quit whining like little girls about a small accident that occurred while doing so.

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Dude, the bike was going 74 mph in a 55. Hardly a big problem. Certainly not worth the risk and expense of crashing an expensive police car. Bonehead move by the "professional" who was supposed to enhancing public safety.

Cops can provide a useful service in some cases. In this case, they failed and helped to make a very benign problem far worse.
19 over wasn't the "big problem", it was the felony eluding. Since 19 over isn't a big issue, I am sure that if you have kids, you won't mind people doing 19 over through the school zone?

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Old 09-27-2011, 11:15 AM   #48
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Sorry, but the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" is juvenile and doesn't really apply to people who break the law. Police have to exceed the speed limit to catch people who are speeding. They also have to shoot at people with real guns when they are being fired on or the public is in danger and sometimes *gasp* they actually kill the bad guys.

The motorcyclists was doing 19 over, so what is the threshold? 25 over? 30 over? Again, it doesn't matter what you think, it's the law and the police officer was doing the job that your tax dollars pay her to do by enforcing it. If you don't like the law, you do your duty as a citizen to change it. How many elected officials have you written about it? How many groups have you organized? How much time away from pnwriders.com have you spent doing something that actually mattered?

Well, my "tone" can be interpreted any way that you want. I rarely speed anymore, especially not 20 over. The last time I got a ticket, I didn't whine like a bitch about being treated unfairly and cry about cops needing to catch real criminals. I paid the fine and went on with life.

Their job is to enforce laws that are voted on by publicly elected officials. Quit whining like little girls about a small accident that occurred while doing so.



19 over wasn't the "big problem", it was the felony eluding. Since 19 over isn't a big issue, I am sure that if you have kids, you won't mind people doing 19 over through the school zone?
Your grasping at a lot of straws and stretching them to try and make a point and I'm not going to take the time to spell them all out.

Why's the ego so butt-hurt over a little fun by posters with a revenuer that made a bad move?

G'day mate, keep the rubber side down.

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Old 09-27-2011, 11:36 AM   #49
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You know, there seems to be a crappy double standard here. I don't think cops signed up for the job to catch speeders, but to catch criminals. On the other hand you do what your boss says. They need more revenue so tickets it is.
That's pretty much all State Patrol does.

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Old 09-27-2011, 01:45 PM   #50
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Yes, let's see it. after all, pigs never screw around, and are always "doing their job."

the pig should be punished and demoted for being stupid enough to think she could keep up with a bike - like give her a receptionist position at best. furthermore, the cost of the 'cruiser should come out of her pocket, rather than the tax payers'.

if i would have seen her crash, i'd be tempted to stop and laugh.

screw the 5-0.

Nice. You must be the one they were after. Be a real shame if you bleed out somewhere waiting on a cop.

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Old 09-27-2011, 01:46 PM   #51
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Grow up, take some responsibility for your actions...
Same could be said for the driver who crashed the car. I don't care who the driver is. I have no hatred for law enforcement. No one made her drive beyond her ability, and no one made her lose control of her vehicle. A single vehicle accident is the fault of but one person, regardless of what the vehicle is, or who is driving it. The motorcyclist is not responsible for her actions.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:38 PM   #52
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You know, there seems to be a crappy double standard here. I don't think cops signed up for the job to catch speeders, but to catch criminals. On the other hand you do what your boss says. They need more revenue so tickets it is.
If this is truly the case let's get law enforcement and the people all together and push for a constitutional amendment that bans ticketing for revenue purposes, and makes discussing it or recommending it a crime that includes jail time and immediately strips you from office.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:43 PM   #53
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Hahaha!
This has made the news in Australia.
Slant seems to be on the Cop being a bullshitter, blaming phantom motorcycles for her boning the car.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:44 PM   #54
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Well, at least she didn't roll hers.......

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crown vics really aren't made to go 120 imo...even w/ good tires/suspension - too heavy, bad aeros and unwieldy at that speed.

they really should outlaw chasing speeders beyond 80mph or so - she could have killed herself or someone else - all just to give someone a speeding/eluding ticket.

Not anti-cop, and glad she's ok, but cops sure do put the public at a lot of risk in the name of safety.
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Silly reporter, they forgot the all-important key words they use for us.
No shit, right?





Why would a sane person, driving a car with a top speed well under 140mph, with the handling characteristics of Grannies Cadillac, attempt to catch someone operating a vehicle that rivals million dollar sports cars when it comes to handling and acceleration characteristics? Just doesn't make much sense to me.......

At least she kept it rubber side down.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:48 PM   #55
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Nice. You must be the one they were after. Be a real shame if you bleed out somewhere waiting on a cop.
If you're bleeding out and a cop is on the way to respond, you will die. An EMT is what you'll need

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:57 PM   #56
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LMFAO

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:00 PM   #57
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And, the motorcyclist could have also injured someone else or himself. Sorry, but speeding is speeding (whether or not you agree with the law) and then he ran on top of that. Pretty sure that would qualify for felony evasion. The accident may have been caused by her inability to control the vehicle, but she wouldn't have been going as fast if she wasn't chasing a motorcyclist that was eluding. How do you know that she didn't call ahead? You are making assumptions about a situation that you know nothing about.

Sorry, but chasing down criminals is what police do, get over it. You guys are acting like she got a medal for wrecking the car or something. The "I hate pigs" routine is getting pretty old on this site. Grow up, take some responsibility for your actions and stop blaming the people who enforce the laws that you are breaking. Sadly, if she had hit another vehicle and hurt someone, the cop haters on this site would still be blaming the officer and not the motorcyclist.
Props (but I can't give them to you again). I'd be willing to bet that she was on the radio right away. The problem is that there are not that many troopers in the area. Help was likely multiple minutes away.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:02 PM   #58
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Your grasping at a lot of straws and stretching them to try and make a point and I'm not going to take the time to spell them all out.

Why's the ego so butt-hurt over a little fun by posters with a revenuer that made a bad move?

G'day mate, keep the rubber side down.
My ego is just fine, thanks for asking though. I don't have a problem with poking a little fun, but at least show a little respect for the people who get up everyday, put on a uniform and risk their lives protecting people they don't even know. On top of that, they get shit on for it, by those same people no less.

I'm not grasping at any straws. I'm just throwing out some hypothetical situations that could easily change the outlook of some people.

Funny how people have nothing good to say about cops until they need one.

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Same could be said for the driver who crashed the car. I don't care who the driver is. I have no hatred for law enforcement. No one made her drive beyond her ability, and no one made her lose control of her vehicle. A single vehicle accident is the fault of but one person, regardless of what the vehicle is, or who is driving it. The motorcyclist is not responsible for her actions.
I don't recall any statements from her regarding who was as fault. Again, that outlook is a little simplistic. You should tell that idea to all the folks on here that lay their bikes down to avoid an accident. How is the motorcycle not responsible for the accident? Sorry, but that is an argument you won't win, especially not in a court of law. If this guy had been caught, you can be damn sure the cost of repairing that cruiser would be added to the fine. Each jurisdiction has different rules regarding chases and when to break them off. I challenge anyone here to find a single rule that she broke.

I really wonder what the responses would have been if it was a car that ran, or if the rider had gotten caught. Actually I don't have to wonder as I've seen the responses before and it was the exact opposite.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:05 PM   #59
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Props (but I can't give them to you again). I'd be willing to bet that she was on the radio right away. The problem is that there are not that many troopers in the area. Help was likely multiple minutes away.
Anyone that has watched Fahrenheit 9/11 knows how many OSP officers are on border patrol (it was two for the entire shoreline of Oregon at the time of filming). I imagine they are probably quite understaffed in some areas.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #60
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What a lot of you conveniently forget is that people choose to be Cops.
Choose.
They don't get drafted.

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